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Gatsby77

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    Comics sales have no bearing on the success of comic book movies. None of the Spider-Man movies appreciably sales of the monthly Spider-Man sales - and those too, are far down from their 1990-1992 levels. The Christopher Nolan films didn't appreciably impact monthly Batman titles. Literally the only exceptions to this I can think of are: 1) the 1989 Batman movie - which not only increased Batman sales across-the-board but led to a dramatic increase in comic book collectors, period; and 2) The Walking Dead TV show - which dramatically increased the sales of - and interest in - the monthly book.
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    If that's all you got out of it, I can't help you. That's like saying Titanic was garbage because all that happened was the ship sunk and some people died. Anyone who'd read House of M knew that to do this show right, all they had to do was show two things: 1) Wanda's one of the most powerful people in the MCU (esp. vs. say...Dr. Strange); and 2) She's totally bat-sh*t f--kn' nuts. It did exactly that, and did it beautifully.
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    The story didn't lead "nowhere" just because it wasn't Mephisto, etc. Aside from the fact that the show announced in Ep. 7 that it was Agatha all along, the whole point was Wanda (and her fractured psyche) was the true villain. That was the appropriate choice - and similar in theme to those explored in Jessica Jones season 1.
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    I'll take that bet. Even if 2021 (w/ Black Widow / Shang-Chi and The Eternals) turns out to be a "rebuilding year" for the MCU - I wouldn't bet against regular $1 bn.+ box offices for films (including Thor 4, Spider-Man 3, & Dr. Strange 3). The "only Avengers matters" theory ignores the $1b+ grosses of the following films: Captain Marvel: $1.1 bn. Spider-Man: Far From Home: $1.1 bn. Iron Man 3: $1.2 bn. Black Panther: $1.35 bn. And again - the argument that "Captain Marvel only made $1 bn.+ because of its relevance to Endgame" ignores that Ant Man & The Wasp was also in-between and critical to Endgame (with the introduction of the time travel tech) yet made less than $625 million worldwide. Captain Marvel was an unmitigated success on its own terms, not just because of the character hype from Infinity War/Endgame.
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    WandaVision wasn't meant to appeal to your usual comic book fans. So I'll take the data over the individual opinions of geeks on a comic book message board. And it was (clearly) successful, given that it trended on Twitter every Friday it was released - sometimes Saturdays as well. But since we're trading anecdotes, most of the people I know who watched (and loved it) were: a) women; and b) non-comic book fans.
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    ? Did you miss that both Wandavision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier had huge audiences? Even if Black Widow is a huge miss (can't wait what the reactions on this board will be if it grosses less than Captain Marvel), it's *far* too early to pass judgment on The Eternals.
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    That's a great book, but "Dream of 1000 Cats" isn't even in my top 5 self-contained issues. I'd pick # 13, 19, 30, 50 and 38 over it. Those are the ones that have stuck with me most over the years. Although 18 would be # 6
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    It's been so long that in the interim a Cloak and Dagger TV show was announced, cast, shot, ran two seasons and went off the air two years ago already.
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    Flash's time travel powers so great we're sitting here in 2021 still waiting for a Flash movie announced in 2016.
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    Nah - it’s because I was misremembering the CGC label. I used to own a few copies of Strange Tales 110 - the label notes “1st Paste Pot Pete and Wizard team-up.”
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    Fair. I don’t collect & haven’t read Strange Tales before 110. But it still proves the point - he’s not a Fox character the way say...Kang arguably was (via Rama Tut). Rather, it’s likely they wanted to preserve the character because they have bigger plans for The Trapster in the MCU.
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    Right? Wasn’t Paste Pot Pete’s first appearance Strange Tales 110?
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    So...45 million subs in its first year? Be interesting to see the numbers next month, post-Friends reunion. Meanwhile, Netflix announced yesterday that Army of the Dead has been watched by 72 million households in just its first week...
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    I don't know, but it looks like they pull from same data (although ComicChron now pulls from Diamond and DC). For example, checking both for Aug. 2011 (the month Ultimate Fall-Out # 4 was released), they list identical numbers for the Diamond orders for the first five books.
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    Best source for estimated modern print runs is ICV2 - which compiled them monthly based on Diamond orders from March 2001 - March 2020. See here:https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/1850 Gets a lot fuzzier after that, both because the publishers stopped publishing last spring due to the pandemic and more recently with DC pulling out of Diamond. The other caveat are their sales figures are only for first month, and don't include re-orders - so presume actual orders shipped to stores are 3-5% higher. For Ultimate Spider-Man # 4, see here. https://icv2.com/articles/comics/view/21030/top-300-comics-actual-august-2011 It was the 5th most-ordered book of the month, with just under 74,000 copies shipped. Which means the full print run is likely ~80,000 copies.
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    Umm...yes. Do you remember the pre-release buzz once the trailer came out? It was insane. Snakes on a Plane is one of the best case studies in internet and media virality not translating to a good (or financially successful) movie. The trailer sold the film - to the extent that it instantly went viral, late night talk show hosts made near-nightly jokes about it, they ordered re-shoots to better match fan expectations (i.e., changing it to Rated R & adding a few more Samuel L. Jackson "m-f-kers"), etc. And yet, the film grossed only $15 million opening weekend.
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    Relevant:
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    Fair. I consider Thor 2 to be *by far* the worst Marvel film (and that includes The Incredible Hulk).
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    This. Plus - it ignores that *superb* trailers can translate into garbage movies, and/or mediocre-to-poor box officer performance. Examples off the top of my head include: Suicide Squad Watchmen Matrix Reloaded Spider-Man 3 Snakes on a Plane And while I think it was a *great* film, I'm willing to bet many on this site would say the same about Iron Man 3 - that the trailer was far better than the finished product.
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    Bwahahaha But fun fact - I picked up Ms. Marvel # 1 only by mistake - part of a full run I bought in a collection 12 years ago just for the Mystique appearances. only read 1-4, 17-18. All of them were...underwhelming,
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    Yeah - but when we gonna' get Hillary Swank?
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    It'd be one thing if Gaiman et. al. seemed to be bending over backwards to seem woke / politically correct, etc. by 2021 standards with the pronoun identifications & such. But this is The Sandman - you simply can't tell a huge cross section of the (now 25+ year-old) stories without featuring characters who are lesbian / bi / trans, etc. And It's not just a Game of You. Issue # 6 features another parent who can't deal with her daughter's being gay. Issue # 30 features Augustus Caesar being raped / sodomized by his great uncle Julius Caesar. It feels a bit like criticizing Preacher for making Catholics look bad.
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    Let me be more specific: 1) I looked it up. I learned the word / concept of a "hermaphrodite" by reading Sandman # 36 when I was 14. Had to ask my mom about it. 2) A key plot point of the whole A Game of You storyline is the lack of acceptance of a teenaged transgender woman by her conservative parents. There you have it. Whatever your views on the issue, this isn't pandering - Gaiman was writing about the difficulties facing non-binary / transgender teens in The Sandman back in 1991.
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    I'm looking forward to this.
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    How so? I literally learned what a non-binary / hermaphrodite was from reading Sandman. Forget the exact issue number but it was part of A Game of You (# 32 - # 37). This was an integral part of Sandman characters in stories told literally 30 years ago.