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Here's my best copy of Magnus, Robot Fighter # 45. If memory serves, it took me four subs to finally land one above a 9.2.

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Excellent! Sources please!

Deadline's done that for a few years: Most Profitable Blockbusters of 2014 - Includes The Winter Soldier, Days of Future Past, TMNT, Big Hero Six and Amazing Spider-Man 2, with breakdowns. 2015 - Includes Age of Ultron and Ant-Man 2016 - Includes Deadpool, Suicide Squad, Rogue One, Doctor Strange, & BvS 2017 - Includes Last Jedi, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, & Thor Ragnarok.

I really wish either Iron Man or Iron Man II had broken even. I liked that character - thought he had potential.

I thought MI: Fallout was surprisingly good. Def. better than the last Bourne and Bond films.

i think some folks may simply be sore that Aquaman will kick Venom off the Top 10 list of 2018’s biggest domestic earners.

That's not how the film industry views it. Didn't you learn that lesson back in the Venom thread when you initially thought Thursday night previews were counted separately from Friday's grosses? Source 1: Box Office Mojo - DC Comics Extended Universe - Week 1 Showdown Source 2: Variety - Box Office: 'Aquaman' Leaves Rivals Under Water, Hits $137 Million in North America Source 3: Deadline - 'Aquaman Beats Justice League' In First Week With $137M+ Source 4: Forbes - Box Office: 'Aquaman Is Swimming Past 'Justice League' and 'Man of Steel'

So after one full week of release Aquaman's at $137.2 million. That's 4.9% ahead of Justice League at the same point and 7.8% behind Wonder Woman.

Another example - film analysts generally agreed Justice League (which cost $300M to produce before marketing costs) needed just $750M theatrical worldwide to break even. Notably, that's a 2.5x multipler, not a 4.5x one. Also notably, it did not hit that mark, grossing only $658M worldwide. Aquaman is now poised to surpass Justice League's worldwide total by this Monday, and to beat it by every metric by Jan. 15. Even James Cameron would be impressed.

Deadline: ‘Aquaman’ $16.9M Wednesday Bests ‘Last Jedi’ & ‘Black Panther’ "Through six days with previews, Aquaman counts $122.6M, which is $300K ahead of Justice League over the same period."

Again, I understand math is hard, but you're demanding a 4.5x theatrical budget multiplier for this film to break even (which is a far cry from being "a success"). Not only are you wrong, you're holding it to a nearly impossible standard. Even the first Iron Man film only hit a 4.17x multiplier. Are you seriously arguing it _lost_ money? Batman Begins didn't even hit 2.5x. So it lost money too, right? That's not how this works. And you're right - "ancillary" costs are usually brought up by people only when they're biased -- just as "marketing expenses" are only ever brought up by those biased on the other side. ex. I didn't see you mentioning Venom's marketing expenses when bragging about its relative multiplier...

No. Lou Fine's right here. I didn't include marketing expenses in my calculations because they are generally accounted for not just by post-theatrical sales, but also ancillary tie-ins (toy sales, video game revenue, etc.). Remember -- the film is essentially a commercial for all manner of Aquaman-related merchandise -- not just DVDs, but action figures, etc. That's why for years the "quick-and-dirty" calculation for "Did this film break even?" was did it make 2.0x its production costs in worldwide theatrical release? With the addition of international screens, that benchmark has moved to 2.5-3.0x. If that *weren't* true, then superhero films including Captain America, Thor, and Man of Steel didn't even break even. They obviously did. To claim that tentpole releases now need to reach 4.5x their budget just to break even isn't just madness, it's Sparta. The point? Even factoring in "marketing expenses" the bar for profitability here is $600M-$650M, depending on the domestic/international/China split. A figure this will reach by next weekend at the latest. So, I'm confused. Are you saying that all comic book movies of secondary characters should use mess special effects and be shot 90% at night to save on budget (like Venom) or that it's a good thing when studios have the imagination to spend $200-$350M on films like Aquaman that ultimately out-perform (even more expensive) films like Justice League?

I agree with this -- with the caveat that studio's North American take is a sliding scale. Studio take is usually avg. 65% of the first two weeks domestic, 35% thereafter (which averages out to 50% over the full domestic run). But using your numbers, as of yesterday, the film is close to break-even. Because using those percentages the studio has so far netted $198.3M of its $200M production budget. #MathIsHard

Okay - now you're just trolling. But (alas) I'm lame enough to take the bait. (sigh) Comparing Aquaman and Warcraft is like comparing apples and hand grenades: Aquaman's domestic total after 5 days of release is more than double Warcraft's domestic total after 13 weeks of release. Aquaman's worldwide total is already $125M more than Warcraft's worldwide theatrical total. Oh, and I was wrong above: At $556M+ worldwide as of yesterday, Aquaman's budget multiplier of 2.78 after 5 days has already surpassed Captain America: The First Avenger's multipler of 2.64 for its entire run. And, as you know, that film was such a loser, they didn't opt to do any sequels.

Umm...Aquaman's international gross will surpass Justice League's total international gross by Friday. If it hits $160M domestic total it will be profitable. It's already hit $500M worldwide, which is (at worst) 2.5x its budget. For comparison - Captain America: The First Avenger's worldwide multiple was only 2.64x its budget _total_ and Thor's worldwide multiple was 3.0. At this rate, Aquaman will easily surpass both of those (by New Year's Day, in fact).

This. With the exception of the casino planet scene running ~10 minutes too long, and our not seeing Adm. Ackbar's death, I loved The Last Jedi. It dared to expand the story beyond the expected and showed real character growth for Luke, Leia, Poe, Finn, and Rey. The trumped-up #nerdrage over it because it didn't fit y'all's headcanon is hilarious. Even more hilarious? That it's been proven Russian bots helped amplify the fake rage to sew dissension about a film most critics and viewers loved.

To be clear, I don't have a dog in this fight. Never liked Aquaman - didn't like the writing of the character in Justice League, and don't plan to see this in the theater. In the abstract, it's fairly absurd that it would have a worse opening weekend than Suicide Squad (a film I loathe for wasting its sterling premise with mess execution). But I think WB would consider this a success when it hits $550 - $600M total worldwide (which it's on track to do). And for it's part, it's looking like Disney is going to lose money on Mary Poppins Returns...although both of these films may be on better financial footing after this full week of kids-off-school...

Weekend estimate of $67.4 million domestic. Sure - much less than the ~$100 million par standard for DCEU films. But... It's Aquaman. He's sorta' DC's equivalent of Ant-Man in the 3rd-tier nobody-cares category.

Umm...Rian Johnson will never get a decent -script again? You realize he wrote all five of the movies he's directed right? That's: Brick (80% postive RT) The Brothers Bloom (68% positve RT) Looper (93% positive RT) The Last Jedi (91% positive RT) Knives Out (forthcoming) The only major projects he's directed that he *didn't* write were three episodes of Breaking Bad, two of which are considered among the series' best. He, of all people, doesn't *need* a "decent -script" -- he'll just write one.

Thank god Chuck Gower injected some sanity here. The article cited by the OP is unsubstantiated clickbait, nothing more. Note the source is "CosmicBook.news" - not Variety, Deadline, the WSJ, or even Forbes. Show me concrete evidence (or even circumstantial evidence from a legit source) that: Solo's failure was attributable to The Last Jedi's story (hint: it wasn't) The Last Jedi was a financial failure (hint: it wasn't) Kathleen Kennedy's been fired Rian Johnson's forthcoming trilogy won't happen The Game of Thrones showrunners' forthcoming trilogy won't happen _All_ we know (for now) is: The Bobba Fett (and other "Star Wars Universe" films) are on hiatus Episode IX is still coming out in a year, as planned The Last Jedi was critically acclaimed, and remains the # 1 grossing movie of 2017 and # 8 on the all-time domestic gross chart

I dunno, man. I hear that

Also looks a bit like Midnight Special - from two years ago, but that was told from the dad's (Michael Shannon's) perspective.

So...this is basically Looper but without the sophistication or time travel framing? Not impressed. (Seriously, though...Looper was so good it took this premise & relegated it to maybe the last 20 minutes of the film -- as a piece of the larger frame and the mcguffin that enables the characters' final redemption -- but it was almost a subplot.)