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I look at Adam Hughes modern version of Wonder Woman and can’t help but wonder. Would also have loved to see the Baker Catwoman. Giving a shout out to Kintsler here because he achieved immortality as one of the great American Artists of the 20th Century, which something none of the others mentioned here ever did. Kintsler was special.

The “Raboy Superman” would have been the greatest rendition of the Golden Age Superhero followed by the “Baker Wonder Woman.” Just imagine how amazing they would have been…

Yes, and I’ve made the point before about the title of this thread being changed to which artist to you prefer. It’s generally about preferences when comparing artists but you can’t tell me that Charles Wilson Peale was a better portrait artist than John Singleton Copley (check out their portraits of George Washington). He wasn’t. I can go on about other artists to further my example if you want? Raboy was the superior artist who could draw just about anything including “cartoony.” There’s no way Schomburg could match Raboy’s “illustrations.”

Personally love a number of L.B. Cole covers and Contact Comics 12 is one of my all-time favorite covers but the other Cole was the superior artist and I’m not a big fan of Plastic Man. Not basing my decision on what my preference is.

It’s not a knock on Schomburg to say that Raboy was better. Look carefully at Mac’s work and you see just how incredible it is. Raboy was on a level that only a handful of his contemporaries could come close to.

Wondering if the popularity of Timely/Marvel has something to do with some placing Schomburg at the top? Yes, Schomburg did great WW2 superhero covers but there’s no way he comes close to Raboy who was superior in every aspect as an artist. Raboy’s art is on a higher plane. Still, Mac didn’t work for Timely and never had the chance to draw Superman. Imagine the Raboy Superman? It would have been an incredible sight!

Lou Cameron needs to be added to any list of Golden (& Atomic) Age greats. There’s no better artist who tells the story than Cameron.

True and I’ve debated this time immemorial and there’s an Atomic Age in between the Gold and Silver Ages. Maybe I will circle back after finally getting around to the 53 Edition of the Overstreet Price Guide.

You ❤️nerds!

Your favorite!

Respectfully…agree…to disagree and I stand by my position.

What’s the Golden Age? 1938 - ? The Golden Age starts with Action Comics 1 and ends with the end of World War 2 and the decline of the Superhero genre. The rise of the Crime, Romance, and Horror genres start their progression with the postwar era. Baker and his contemporaries make their mark during this period. EC Comics is not Golden Age so let’s make sure greats like Wally Wood and Frazetta are placed in their respective eras when they were at the apex of their craft. The Golden Age greats include Fine, Kirby, Beck, Jack Cole, Schomberg, Eisner, Crandall, Binder, Simon, Everett, and Raboy. Comes down to which of the batch is your favorite. My suggestion is that you rewrite the heading of this thread to “Who’s your favorite Golden Age Artist.” Then add Raboy and remove the ones who aren’t Golden Age greats.

First appearance of Judge Dredd in Prog 1 !

Wrong forum for this announcement. Needs to be in Seller/Dealer forum

I actually love a guy who laughs at his own jokes Unlike Diet Coke, No Sugar Pepsi if excellent in terms of taste. Try it if you haven’t.

Do you always laugh at your own jokes? Grading has a subjective part to it but there are factors that we use to measure where a books stands in terms of its grade. The process by which we arrive at a numerical grade for a book involves assessing those factors such as defects and deciding how much weight they are given. It’s open to interpretation given some of us may factor a defect differently and give it more or less weight when determining the numerical grade. We are applying a technical process to get some level of accuracy. CGC has standards and applies them to its grading process. They usually get some consensus on a grade and there are times when their graders don’t. That being said, there is no such thing for deciding whether a book presents well. It can’t be quantified. I’m drinking a Zero Sugar Pepsi btw.

Big difference between grading comic books and deciding whether a copy presents well. You can quantify the number of defects a comic book has and even determine whether a defect in question has a greater impact on the technical grade of a comic where a scale is used to measure and allow the grader(s) to arrive at a numerical number for the grade. You can’t quantify whether a book presents well or not. There are copies of Avengers1 that present better in 6.0 than 7.0. There are copies of books that have 6.0 grades due to defects on the back cover reducing their technical grades. You don’t need a third party to tell you what you can decide for yourself. This isn’t about being cynical.

How many available copies are in the grades for some of the books you have to choose from? Do you need a sticker for the Mile High Copy? The Twilight? Should I wait around for another Gerber 8 copy of one of my Feature Comic books because the one in my collection that I really like doesn’t have a sticker on it? In relative terms, you can know if your copy is nicer than the others in the same grade where there are multiple copies in existence unless you spend a lot of time analyzing Heritage and other websites that keep scans in their history of sales. Still, there are those who believe a date stamp adds to the attraction of a cover while others dislike them. When buying a book, the old adage “buy the book, not the grade” applies in many cases. Then there’s looking at a book’s presentation in absolute terms and that’s a “know it when you see it.” There are collectors who aren’t concerned about getting the perfectly centered copy. Others who dislike signatures on the covers. I’ve seen books with stickers on them and smiled because of the sad attempt to quantify what cannot be quantified. Pedigree copies in general (Mohawks in many cases are an exception) and those good old books from noted collections (Edenwald and Sid’s Luncheonette) will generally have nice presenting copies so they stand on their own in terms of presentation. I think it’s time we start grading the slabs themselves, especially in terms of how many Newton Rings appear. Let’s put a sticker on slabs with less than 10 rings and call it the “Newton 🍎” standard…

Do you need a third party to tell you whether a book presents well or not?

Congrats Jimbo! A lot of posts for a guy in his early 20s.

Thanks Jay! I wanted a POP Korean War book given Wertham never included any of these in SOTI.

A “POP” book:

That’s a favorite of mine!

In general, high grade war, romance, and western comics are relatively scarcer than superhero books published in the Bronze, Silver, and Golden Ages. Also depends on the relative scarcity of the comic book in question. A 6.0 gerber 8 might be the highest graded copy in existence so that would be a high graded copy.