JMoses

Plase make the following additions: set: New Gods (Complete) please add: Super-Team Family 15 and Action Comics 586. Thanks very much!

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Thanks very much. Please update the Mister Miracle (Master Set) as well, if you haven't already! Thanks!

Please add the following comics to the Mister Miracle (Master Set): Action Comics 593 Brave and the Bold 112 Brave and the Bold 128 Brave and the Bold 138 DC Comics Presents 12 Justice League Special 1 Thanks very much!

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Please add the following two comics to the two existing sets listed below: Existing Sets: Mister Miracle Master Set and Mister Miracle (2017) Comics to Add: Mister Miracle (2017) 1 Third Printing and Mister Miracle (2017) 2 Second Printing Thanks!

Please add the following set to the CGC Registry: Sword of the Atom. This set consists of Sword of the Atom issues 1-4, plus Special 1, Special 2, and Special 3. Seven issues in all. Thank you!

Thanks for adding the Mister Miracles. Could you please also add to the Mister Miracle set Mister Miracle (2017) 1 Third Printing? As well as Mister Miracle (2017) 3 and 3 variant cover? I have those currently being graded. Thanks. My #3 is 1244496017. My #3 variant is 1244496016. Actually, rather than do this piecemeal, would you please add the rest of the forthcoming Mister Miracle (2017) to the set? In addition to the above, issues 4-12 and their variants. Thanks.

Please make an addition to the following set: Mister Miracle Please add: Mister Miracle (2017) 1, Mister Miracle (2017) 1 variant cover Thank you!

I agree with Lookin4Newsstands completely in his/her first and second points. People sometimes refer to Prestige Format comics as Trades, but they're original single-story comics, not compilations. I respectfully disagree on the third point: I don't think new cover art changes the nature of a compilation sufficiently to keep it in a competitive set. For example I own a graded copy of "History of the DC Universe" a collection of issues 1 and 2 -- the whole run -- of that series, and it has great new cover art by Alex Ross. But it's still a compilation. In my opinion, it and others like it should go into a Trades/Compilations only set. I also think the "non-competitive" slot ought to be done away with in favor of a trades/compilations set in which they can be put into on a competitive basis. My nickel's worth. Let me go ahead and propose the creation of a new set called "DC Trades and Compilations." I can put my "History of the DC Universe" in it, and those who have the graded Death of Superman compilation as well as the Lois and Clark compilation or others can put them in as well. (Sorry, don't know too much about the Marvel / Image / other publishers side of this).

When you buy it, it's yours! On more than one occasion I have made a comic purchase via ebay in which the seller of the comic refuses to relinquish ownership (i.e. in the Registry) until the comic has physically arrived in my hands. Despite my emailing them personally with a courteous request to remove the book from their set, nothing happens until after the tracking info shows a successful delivery. This is nonsense. When a person buys something -- anything -- it is the property of that person from the moment the money changes hands. When my cash goes into your Paypal account, it becomes your cash. At that instant, the comic is mine. I have paid for it, and you have accepted my payment. Where the comic is physically at that moment is irrelevant. I now own it. It is now your, the seller's, responsibility to deliver my property to me safely, but it is not your comic you are shipping, it is my comic. Think of it this way: when you've checked out at the grocery store, your groceries belong to you. They no longer belong to the store, and people cannot come by and shop from your cart as you make your way to the car. Once paid for, the groceries are yours, despite the fact that you're still in the store. The same principle is at work with CGC comics, with a car, a piece of furniture, with ANY purchase. The moral is this: Be courteous to your fellow collectors: when you've sold a comic from your set, and the buyer has paid, release the cert number so that the new owner may put their new comic in their set. It's just common courtesy. Remember: once you've sold it AND it's been paid for, it is not yours, no matter where it is. To see old comments for this Journal entry, click here. New comments can be added below.

People request sets, then don't fill them. Have a look at this list: Adam Strange (1990) Adventures of Captain America Adventures of Kool-Aid Man Adventures of the Jaguar After the Cape Alabaster Alarming Adventures Alf Alien Legion (1987) Alien Legion - Mini-Series Alien Pig Farm 3000 All-Famous Crime Alpha Girl (Image) Amazing Adventures of the Escapist Amazing Spider-Man Canadian Price Variants Amazing Spider-Man 129 Foreign Editions Amazing Spider-Man UK Editions (15-120) America's Funniest Comics A-Next Andy Devine Western Angel Spotlight Annihilation 1-4 w/ Variants Animal Mystic Annie (1982) Aphrodite IX Volume 2 Aquaman (1989) Archie #401-#599 Archie Digest First Issues Archie's Pals 'N' Gals Arion Lord of Atlantis Avengers UK Editions (1-100) Avengers Forever Back to the Future Harvey Bat-Hound (Ace) Batman 227 Foreign Set Batman Beyond (1999) Batman: Manbat Bat-Mite Set Bat-Woman and Bat-Girl (Kathy and Betty Kane) Beautiful Killer Big Questions Bionic Man (Dynamite) Black Adam (2007) Black Panther (1998) Black Summer Blackstone, the Magician Blaze Carson Blood of the Demon (DC) Body Bags (Dark Horse) Bram Stoker's Dracula Brian Pulido's Lady Death: Lost Souls Brian Pulido's Medieval Lady Death Brightest Day Bubble Funnies Bullwinkle and Rocky (Marvel) These represent 55 set requests added to the Register under "A" and "B" which are absolutely empty. None are marked "new" or "updated." I'm sure the list from C-Z of requested sets with nothing in them would be quite long. Here's my question: Why request a set, then put nothing in it? Are people requesting sets they themselves have no intention of dealing with? If so, Why? Think of how much time and effort was wasted in creating these 55 empties -- and that's just under A and B. There are hundreds of other empties as well. The moral of the story is this: request sets, by all means, but don't waste everybody's time by having sets created that you yourself aren't interested in. Without a doubt this would cut the set creation time down dramatically. Food for thought. To see old comments for this Journal entry, click here. New comments can be added below.

Your last message clarifies things considerably, and it appears we are actually for the most part on the same page. I might even propose a "DC Trades" set and see what happens (probably not much ) . See you 'round the Registry!

I assume you are a user of the competitive registry and therefore invest a certain amount of time. For me I have no issue with a non-competitive slot but I also feel I have the right to vote and influence the registry setup because I am an active participant. Using "whatever CGC is willing to grade" as the definition of a comic is weak. We both know that and you lose my attention with such logic. I am indeed a user and an active participant, since July of '09, with 37 active sets on the Registry. I'm all for participation but I don't feel I can speak for the Registry. I don't feel I can deny people the right to list their graded comics, even if they are trades and I don't necessarily see them AS comics myself. That's really all I'm saying. Adding to the registry and having a say in its shape is all well and good, and as it should be. But removing items in other people's sets is I think out of bounds. That's my primary thought on this. I certainly would not like to see my one and only graded tpb booted against my will. And I do stick by my point that if CGC grades and slabs trades, who am I to say they can't be in a set? I'm not saying that defines them as "comics" but certainly a close relative. Perhaps discussions such as these are better had at the set level. If you have an issue with trades in a particular set, I'd say discussing it with the other set-holders in that title might be a good idea. Those will be the primary people impacted, after all. OK, I've said all I have to say on this. I said it all in a spirit of friendly debate, and I hope that's how it came across. I'm a college professor, and I tend to speak in big chunks, sorry. I too just want to have a voice. Enjoy the holiday!

I don't understand the logic of your two points, which seem to contradict each other: on the one hand, using trades in sets to manipulate competitive results, but on the other hand, so few people having them. BTW, if you supported non-competitive slots, then why back off that? Seems like a good and fair compromise. I have a single TPB in all of my sets: CGC put up the set recently (History of the DC Universe -- someone requested it) with *three* slots for what I knew to be a two-issue prestige-format mini: a slot for #1, for #2, and to my surprise a slot for something called #nn, which I found later was for the Trade combining one and two. I eventually bought a copy off eBay for a fair price (graded 9.8 with beautiful Alex Ross cover art), and listed it in the set. To date, I have the only set under this title -- not even whoever initially requested the set has a set in it. Are you and 18 other guys now telling me I have to get rid of it? When CGC says I can list it? By what right? I have a nice Death of Superman collection, and I see a slot at the bottom for Death of Superman Platinum trade. I don't, and never will, own one. It scores low, and is a drop in the bucket in an otherwise massive set. It's not impacting the competition, and certainly does not affect one way or the other the top sets in that Registry set. In what set is this competition factor an issue? Here's where the hundreds of Registry members come in. The problem with "having a vote" is that the majority of the users don't participate, or are even aware of such a vote, or ever read or post in the chat room. It therefore can't be a legitimate indicator of the will of the users. Are some of them to check their sets one day soon and see that some slot in their favorite set is now gone without their knowledge? Some book they had graded now doesn't count because some handful of guys had a vote? This may only impact a small number of people in a handful of sets, but if that's the case, why be so adamant to kick them out? In browsing around the site, I don't see a lot of trades, and those that are there score quite low -- too low to meaningfully impact any serious competition with a set. I do agree that probably few people would participate in a TPB-only set, but a few might. Popularity has never been a hindrance to creating a specific set. If a "trades-only" set of sets were the rule, and everyone knew that trades could not be entered in any other sets, wouldn't that solve your issue of "if set A has it, then set B has to have it as well"? In a registry with trades-only sets, that can't happen.

I don't refer to any specific set; and, in a site with hundreds of active users, the handful of votes cast in this tally aren't a majority of anything. (And it was pretty close among those who did vote.) All that aside, the basic question remains: Why not allow for the creation of segregated Trades-only sets for anyone interested in creating one? This serves to eliminate trades from the established sets while still allowing them in the registry. Everybody's happy. As you pointed out earlier, this is an idea favored by more than just me. There's another angle on this: Certified Guaranty grades and slabs comics, and the registry is a place for their owners to show them. They see fit to include TPB compilations of comics in that endeavor. Logically, then, by the definition of the company who oversees this site, TPB's, graded and slabbed, do indeed belong in the Registry. CGC considers them comics, otherwise why would CGC grade and slab them? Again, I reiterate that I initially voted against having trades in the Registry, but then I thought "who am I to deny the people who had these trades graded and slabbed access to the Registry run by the very company that graded and slabbed them in the first place"? In the final analysis, I came to the conclusion that we do not have the right or authority to exclude them. If CGC grades it, then the CGC Registry ought to showcase it.

The "no" votes are not the majority, but the plurality of a minority. And why is the fact that all Trades can't be graded even an issue? Not all comics can be graded, either -- Treasury-sized issues, for example. What's the problem with creating "Trades-only" sets? This still removes TPBs from other competitive sets, which is the goal, is it not? -- yet still allows those few with them to keep them in the registry and have whatever point values are attached to them count for them. Why would you or anyone be opposed to that? The points of view of those who want their graded and slabbed TPBs to count for something cannot be discounted, and we can't simply deny them an access they already have. The poll won't allow one to vote again, but if I could, I'd vote "yes" to allowing those people who had their books graded to keep them in segregated TPB-only sets. Still think this satisfies everybody's needs.

As to TPBs in the registry, the poll suggests that a plurality favors their removal (full disclosure: I voted "no" on them); however, three things bother me: 1) it is a very close vote, with 46% (18 votes) voting to include them in some way, and 50% (20 votes) choosing to exclude them. I think this is too close to begin removing trades from people's collections. 2) Only a grand total of 40 of the hundreds of site users voted. I am uncomfortable with the vocal minority (which again includes me) imposing a standard on the site as a whole. 3) And some people are going to have slots removed from their sets against their will. Speaking for myself, I'd rather this site be as inclusive as possible. Accordingly, I propose the following to anyone who reads this and has an interest: Proposal: 1) Create a few sets composed of ONLY trades -- "DC Trades," "Marvel Trades," "Batman TPBs," "Image Trades," whatever the interest might be . . . 2) these would be competitive sets like any other, so those who have trades slabbed can still enter them into the Registry (after all, CGC DOES grade and slab them) 3) delete the Trades from all other existing sets, effectively segregating the trades from the issues collections. 4) make this known to those who have trades in their sets, so all are informed that their slabbed TPBs can still be entered competitively. Well, that's it. Love to have a discussion around this possible solution, one that I think will satisfy everyone. Happy Memorial Day, and if you served or are now serving in the military: Thanks!

I voted no for reasons I've stated in other places on the boards. I just don't see TPBs as comics per se, but books OF comics, compilations, a different creature altogether.