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On 8/18/2021 at 3:39 PM, Duncan78 said:

Let me explain this clearly. I put BGS 9.5 = PSA 10. Meaning that a BGS card graded a 10 is equivalent to a PSA 10. Which is true. I did this because many people think PSA is the best there is when it comes to Grading which is absolutely not true. They pull the most money but PSA is all about giving a 10 grade to cards that are not deserving. Especially to customers who spent lots s of money with them. My goal was to assure people that what they would be buying is top notch & to not believe the hype. Never crossed my mind to put something that was not true in my title to get more views. Does that make sense or do you need me to explain further.

Understand your reasoning, however "BGS 9.5 = PSA 10" is just plain false. They are two different companies with two different grading scales. 

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On 8/17/2021 at 5:50 AM, Lerxst said:

 

 

thats the shady part about them!!.. they say they charge your card when it goes into grading status, get this.. to reduce the time it takes to ship your order.. LMAO yeah right! my 20 card economy order was charged 7/23 ..almost a MONTH ago.. shady!!!

On 8/12/2021 at 7:52 PM, ne1seenmykeys said:

That’s just not true, sorry. 
 

PSA makes up the VAST majority of this business and there was literally no way for CSG, which was JUST getting off the ground, could have anticipated the amount of cards at first. 
 

I will say this - I think they’re making a mistake by continuing to adhere to the “we’ll take as many bulk orders as humanly possible” creed still, but at the same time the people sending in need to make the best educated decision. 
 

I just see a lot of uneducated buyers remorse in here and it just comes off as pathetic to me. 

"PSA makes up the VAST majority of this business and there was literally no way for CSG, which was JUST getting off the ground, could have anticipated the amount of cards at first. "

Again. Any with 2 Brain Cells would have taken one look at your competition - Seems like you're unaware, but the massive influx of cards didnt just happen to PSA. It also happened to BGS and SGC. So , again, one look at your competition, which any business worth their salt would have done, would have quickly shown how bad of an idea cheap bulk was. Especially for a new company not yet scaled to handle bulk subs. 

"literally no way" - is just not true, sorry... And its also a bit dramatic. 

Hard to tell from the photos your posted  - try taking some at an angle that shows the corners and that are clear. 

Also that centering is an 8. Not sure what grade you were expecting here. 

1 hour ago, ne1seenmykeys said:

I simply disagree with you. This is how capitalism and money works. 

A) It is literally plastered all over their site that it is an ESTIMATED turnaround time, so right there they have wiggle room, regardless of your feelings toward the matter.

A.1) This hobby absolutely was set on fire last year and continues to not slow down whatsoever, with record card prices being broken every month, etc. There is literally no way that any card grading company, *ESP ONE THAT JUST OPENED LIKE CSG*, could have ever forseen what was about to happen to the rest of the grading companies once PSA shut their doors down to everything but $300 and up. 

Be honest with yourself. CSG was *just* getting off the floor (yes, I know they have CGC but that is an entirely separate entity) and then literally millions of cards that would have been sent to PSA flooded other grading companies. There was ZERO way they could have known what was going to happen unless the CEO of PSA hit up the other grading companies and was like, "Yo, staff up."

So your complaints about CSG fall on deaf ears to me bc I haven't had one complaint with them. They are way, WAY over the TAT for my other 4 bulk orders but I literally don't give a bc from the beginning they've always said it's an ESTIMATED turnaround time and I'm paying 10/card to get graded so who f*cking cares?

B) I have had numerous interactions with cust servc from CSG and they've always been amazing. They could def stand to improve some things, but again, THEY JUST STARTED as a company. There are going to be bumps in the road, new trainees that need to get caught up, people that ::GASP:: make mistakes even!!! 

You and everyone else that is literally sh*tting your pants about an area where they are legally covered from every angle need to stop whining and just take your business elsewhere. With a 141-day TAT for their bulk orders right now I'd say they probably won't miss you, and believe me, as someone who worked in customer service call centers in my younger days the call center reps at CSG will be MORE than glad for you to not call in anymore. You kinda sound like a Karen, a real "lemme talk to your manager" type. 

I'm going to keep grading with CSG bc they have been nothing but awesome with me, regardless of how long they are taking. 

Stop sending in cards you can't emotionally handle being without.   

"literally no way that any card grading company could have ever forseen what was about to happen"

Cmon now, anyone with 2 brain cells could have seen the same issues with bulk services creating bottlenecks that occurred at PSA , BGS, and SGC. Its not Rocket Science. 

Is the website still being "updated"  ?

On 7/23/2021 at 11:05 PM, oluckydayo said:

A huge part of the reason we're in this mess is flippers on low value cards.  Lots of them send in hundreds of cards in bulk orders to flip for $10-30 profit each.   Time is money to them, and they're also likely the vocal minority here complaining that their bulk orders are taking so long.

Getting 7's and 8's on those .50 cent cards and now have to sell at a loss flooding ebay with garbage cards in CSG slabs and overall cheapening the look of the brand. 

2 hours ago, Rob420 said:

i have had no problem getting the right price on slabs with or without subgrades , its a double standard as psa and sgc dont use them and the sell fine , sub grades are cool but it shouldnt be a extra charge as the do the sub grades durning the grading process its greed on Csg along with charging for thicker slab ( what other company does that ?. NONE ) again CSG got greedy , they dont honor the turn around times from when your card is submitted they only honor the current turn around time and thats bs , I sent a march sub in and it was a 60 day turn around well just a tad over 4 months later i got my order back smh , I got some great grades and some okay one and a mislabeled slab that im still waiting on CSG to respond to my email about getting it corrected but they havent . Just not a good look on a new company . 

Its not a double standard at all. They use a totally different grading scale - PSA / SGC gives out 10's at a significantly higher rate than BGS or CSG.

Folks want 10's or they want to know why their card got a 9.5 (ie subs) 

2 hours ago, Blackbeard32 said:

Economy 

So the "Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging" Stage , was pretty much to charge you early... ? 

11 hours ago, Andy Gardecki said:

What cards are you getting 10 on?  Anything older than a year or two?  I've seen a lot of high grades on Topps Now and Prizm stuff, but then again that stuff gets about 80% 10s from PSA.

Oldest was from 2011 Topps update (not a trout unfortunately )  - had 2 of them that 10'd 

All the others were from 2018 +  

No Topps Now cards

16 minutes ago, Blackbeard32 said:

I was in that status for 3 weeks. Just moved into "Grading/ Quality Control "

Bulk? 

So far at 30% hitting 10's  (total of ~50 subbed so far) with 2 Perfects. 

Just about the same form as the PSA slab (CSG slab can fit the PSA sleeves , albeit snuggly) . 

However CSG has around 30% more plastic , making them thicker and more protective. 

The top part is what I filled in the form - "Image Variation" second attribute = "refractor" 

Yall dropped the Image Variation from the label for some reason. Please stop doing this... 

Vintage subs don't matter

Modern - any card worth grading is worth getting subs on . If you're subbing 1 dollar base cards , either dont, or inspect the heck out of them and only send the ones that you think will 9.5 and above. Or else you're just throwing your time and money away. 

Also a bunch of no-subs on ebay just cheapens the look of the brand. Consistency is key. 

Somethin different, hodlin 

return tracking information would be really nice to have.

when selecting the set the only think coming up for series 1 and series 2 are the silver packs - anyone else getting this ? Is it missing from the database?

Also , its not allowing me to add Allen and Ginter as a set , only a manufacturer , even though its a Topps set. 

Thanks!