RKgant

So wait a minute... you are telling us that you had a PSA 10 and then you sent it into SGC for a re-grade? This does not seem to make sense. Listen, no offense. All I know is what the market prices are. SGC 10 is worth around PSA 7. If there is an arbitrage there, then more power to you if you buy SGC cards at a discount and then re-grade them at PSA, subsequently flipping them for more value.

The only thing that matters is ROI. And of course I have not submitted anything to SGC because regardless of the grade, they are not worth much. The market is pretty clear that a SGC 10 is only worth a PSA 7 or so, and it has more to do with the grading than the slab. If you think it is untrue or that there is an arbitrage to be had, purchase the SGC cards and flip them over the PSA for regrading. But people are not doing that because we don't have confidence that a SGC 10 will be a 9 or 10 at PSA. Hopefully CSG will prove more like PSA than SGC.

Nah... raise it to $5,000. Why not? After all, it is you who gets to determine the value of your cards. Market schmarket. Keep fighting the good fight, I'm sure you are right.

" you don't get to say I can't recoup what I have invested in this card." Uh... the market does get to say that. Just because you spent $125 to get it graded does not make it worth $125. You should have realized that a Bo Jackson 1990 Score graded 10 is worth $250 and a 9 is worth $50. Unfortunately, it was not a good idea to pay $125 to get the card graded. You should not be mad at people for pointing that out. Hey, we all have made mistakes in this hobby.

One more thing about tough grading standards, since this has been cropping up on other forums... we should be hoping that CSG has high standards. For example: if PSA gives a card a 10, SGC (not CGS) will give it a 10. if PSA gives a card a 9, SGC will give it a 10. if PSA gives a card an 8, SGC will give it a 10. So the community will value any SGC 10 as a PSA 8. I don't think we want that with CSG.

Yeah.... with the OC a 6.5 seems reasonable.

Yeah... we are all waiting for a population report. Super important for this to be released, as it will at some level provide clarity to "how does a CSG 8 compare to PSA?" With the volume they are experiencing, hopefully they will have enough info to release a population report soon. We would all love a general timeline for this to be released/expected.

Agree with shockmaster. But CSG seems to be getting a handle on the issue we all have, as they recently added the "confirm package delivery" section and recently added in the turnaround page "Now opening submissions delivered the week of March 29, 2021." So yes. things could be better, but CSG seems to be adjusting and giving us more info. The whole industry is in turmoil right now. Pretty amazing.

The real point will be "how does a CSG 7.5 compare to PSA"? Is a CSG 7.5 really a PSA 9? Once the industry is able to compare the grades, this should all settle out. If CSG is known as the toughest grader, that should be OK as the auction prices realized should reflect that. I have three submissions in process, so I have not experienced it for myself yet. I am hopeful that the combination of the known name CSG within the hobby, the sub-grades, and the AI all help CSG claim a seat next to BGS and PSA. But time will tell. I am confident that more and more collectors will demand subgrades tho.