i have 3 more orders with them , they grade tough and i like the slabs alot , slabs are very clear and feels good in the hand , its gonna take sometime for value to go up with them but i pick and choose what cards go to what grading comapny , vintage sgc all day , if im looking to flip something high dollar its going to psa for everything else i use csg and sit on them and hope the value go up . Most of what i send to get graded is for pc and to leave for my kids one day , but with grading companies catching up with all the back log cards they have the market is gonna get flooded with so many slabs from everyone . I think there is about 18 or so active grading companies out there and i most of them will fold and csg , psa , sgc , fcg, hga and bgs will be the ones left standing .