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I was wondering that myself.
A number of celebrities have posted very positive reviews online. But nothing from Nolan yet. That would be interesting.

He's my hero.
Relax mang.

Oh, but he is a "hero", in a sense, in Joker. At the film's beginning, Arthur Fleck is a victim of the violence and callousness of Gotham City. Whether it's his social worker psychologist, random guys on a subway, Thomas Wayne(who possibly abandoned him?), his mother (who doesn't think he's funny), his co-workers (except for Gaggy, the only guy who is nice to him), or talk show host Murray Franklin, in the context of the movie, they all, in one way or another, bully or belittle poor Arthur.
In the movie's class warfare angle, does the movie take sides? Kind of. The yuppies on the Subway are jerks (who deserve to get their butts kicked) and Thomas Wayne is portrayed as an uppity callous jerk who possibly abandoned Arthur and his mother (the photo of Arthur's mother with the initials T.W. on the back make me think she was telling the truth). The movie kind of takes the side of the lower class.
As we follow Arthur on his hero's journey, he vanquishes these bullies and belittlers (yes, killing his mother was tragic, but at the same time, she didn't believe in his "talent") until he ascends to near god-like status to the working class of Gotham City, not unlike Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver.
In the crazy screwed up Gotham City of this movie, Joker is the hero.

Erhm, according to literature, the protagonist of a story isn't excusively a wholesome law abiding person. The protagonist of a story is the main leading character. That'd be Joker. The antagonist is the character or thing that gets in the way of the protagonist's goal. Arthur Curry wants to be a clown, whether at kid's parties or on stage. Gotham City and everyone in Arthur's life is preventing him from doing that.

When I say "hero", it's in extreme broad terms. Call it anti-hero or sympathetic protagonist, or whatever. In the context of the movie, Arthur Fleck is the protagonist and Gotham City is the antagonist.
Heck, even Batman's dad comes off looking worse than Joker.

Just saw this thing. I dug it. Martin Scorsese's The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver meets Joker story sums it up for me.. The last fifteen minutes or so when Arthur Fleck goes full Joker up to the end was pretty excellent. I felt the the majority of the movie leading up to that was a bit slow at times even though things definitely happen, maybe I could've used one less scene of Arthur writhing in slow motion.
I don't know much about the Gary Glitter thing but I kind of loved Joker dancing on the stairs to Rock and Roll Part 2. I felt like in that one scene, we were finally in Arthur Curry's mind.
And contrary to what Todd Philips says, Joker was definitely the hero in this movie. Everyone he killed (except for that one tragic scene) had it coming, in the context of the movie.

And that's fine to think that as well. People believe what they will.

That’s not a good argument, but again it’s all fiction. I’m just basing my view on how it would normally work (or not work).

Are you capable of giving an inch in an open discussion?
At the end of the day our opinions are just speculation, but the fact you are so unrelenting in your opinion is divisive.
We are just having fun discussing a good movie that we all saw.

Fleck is the protagonist of the film.  Protagonists don't have to be heros, just the central character.  Merriam-Webster is the oldest and most widely-accepted dictionary, and it doesn't use heroism as a part of any of its connotations of the word:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/protagonist
He's certainly not heroic, but a fringe of people will look at him that way.  Many mass killers consider previous mass killers heroes.  I find it difficult to imagine anyone thinking of him as anything approaching heroic; he seemed mostly pathetic to me.  But I'm sure a small minority will find him appealing.  Ledger's Joker probably has a wider appeal as a hero since he's a far more polished and capable version of the character than Phoenix's Joker is.

Cap come on. It’s a movie spoiler discussion board. It’s supposed to be fun, not some sort of battle. 

This new CBS show could work if it's Netflix,HBO or AMC quality.

Do you know the only Creature collectable I really wanted was the little fish tank version I imagine that it would have looked great among the fishes...If only I had a fish to begin with. Paging Little Nemo!!!!!

How COOL would this be if friends called?
 

Leonard Nimoy was like that. Could not shake the Spock syndrome. He never really found a fit after that although he will always be remembered for that role.

It looks more like Jonathan Brewster acting Boris Karloff from Arsenic and old lace.
 

 
Raymond Massey

Fred Gwynne  (thanks to Mike)

WAIT! Does that mean that the Creature was naked all along? The dirty beast...No wonder Ms Adams screamed her head off!

Hello BIG boy. Is that a FISH in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?

The next movie for Halloween is the marvelous "The Creatures walks among us" I know that it was the third and last of the Creature trilogy but it stands apart as a more Frankenstein monster sequel than a continuation of the Creature story.. Basically the Creature gets badly injured by fire then he is changed against his nature and goes berserk against those who held him prisoner and finally going back to die where he was most happiest, yes there is a similar storyline to the monster.  

I picked this poster because of the trousers (pants) and the Ben Cooper costume.

this one is awesome  (thank god for the ventilated mask )

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