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# 9
Astonishing 11 - eBay purchase
Content:
9825 The Last of Mr. Mordeaux by Joe Sinnott 5 pgs
9643 Master and Slave - Text feature
9672 Freak by Bill Walton 5 pgs
9790 Reign of Terror by ? 4 pgs
9695 The Hound Dog by Myron Fass 4 pgs
9776 The Day Harrington Died! by Bob Fujitani 5 pgs
Yeah, on the cover Mordeau is spelled without an "x". We see some early Atlas work by Joe Sinnott so I'll include it below as well as the splash page from the un-attributed story: Reign of Terror.
Note that Joe's work for Atlas pre-dates this by about 1 year. The earliest Story Code with Joe's art I know of is 7923 for Kent Blake of the Secret Service 1 (Cover by Sol Brodsky)
Note that I will actually buy two issues of Astonishing since there is both a March issue and a Spring issue. For all you Timely Atlas needs, please consult Greg Gatlin's wonderful site: Atlas Tales
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# 8
Archie Comics # 55 - eBay Purchase
Content:
Cover by Bob Montana
Very Kindly Yours by ? 6 pgs
The Old Gray Mayor by 6 pgs
Love is Blind by ? 5 pgs
The Principal of it! by ? 6 pgs
Lucky Puck by ? 5.66 pgs
Let's Face it by ? 3.66 pgs
Come Ona My House My Housa C'Mon by ? 7 pgs
One thing I find rather funny as I look back at the Teen-age Heroes comics is that, despite the times, I find the 50's covers more "daring" than what Archie would allow in today's marketplace. I don't imagine the current editors would run this cover gag today. I noticed this also on many of the covers board member lotemo's website.
Most Archies were still published with a higher page count making them one of the best deal on the newsstands money-wise. The following table displays, for publishers for whom I have indexed at least 3 comics, the average total page count of comics, the percentage of actual story pages, the number of story pages, the number of stories, the percentage of ads, and finally the cost per story page. What you don't see is the count of the number of 1) text pages, 2) short features, games, and sometimes 1 page gags and 3) in-house ads. Overall, because Dells, while offering a lower page, was carrying no ads, they were about as good of a deal as Archies. Notice that some of the laggards are both National and Atlas.
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Jon,
thanks for digging that information and for scanning the volume six with the Ayers cover. It's appreciated.
Scrooge
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VG+, Thank you! You bet it helps; it's all clear now. I have never seen these and I am glad you filled in the information for me. At the very least, it confirms my original impression that I'd better print and bind these few articles whose list you quote because I'd never seen them in my CBM collection.
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How could I forget the Chesler piece? It was one of the best illustrated pieces. I admit that I stopped checking my CBMs after Gary left the editorship as I thought you'd become scarce after that time, but now that you mention it, yes! For those caring, it is in Issue 91.
The Fox feature was The Weird, Wonder(ous) World of Victor Fox's Fantastic Mystery Men in issue 107.
B-Littled Golden Age Titles in 108.
Creation of Re-creations in 113 (cover listed as 112)
Good Clean Fun - Collecting New Fun Memorabilia in 116
(My LCS is still holding 115, 117 - 119 for me)
Going through these, there is also in 85: Ain't it a wonder! Unpublished art from Eisner's Wonderman #2.
I only have Issues 1 and 2 of the Overstreet / CBM and no articles from you in these.
Thanks for the info.
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Jon,
thank you so much for the information and the scans from your collection you've been putting up here for all of us to see.
I don't want to miss any Berk insights you're providing us so I went back and drew up this Berk Bibliography to see which articles I should print for my records. I show you had in CBM:
Wow What a Magazine CBM 11 [You put this up here]
Love and Death (Censorship before Wertham) CBM 20
Spider and Arrow CBM 22
You only live thrice (Cap Am etc) CBM 24
Science Comics CBM 25
Champ Comics CBM 27
Comic Box Early Hillman CBM 30
Suspense 3 and All New 8 CBM 32
Crash Comics CBM 33
Squarebounds CBM 35
Superworld Comics CBM 38
Black Condor + other Lou Fine articles CBM 39
Amazing Man Comics CBM 46 [You put this up here]
National Comics CBM 48
Grading Forum CBM 68
Lamont Larson Update CBM 71
Esoteric Oddities CBM 75 [You put up here the Mad Hatter part]
I was then wondering if the following you recently posted were published in CBM and I missed in the above checklist (if so I'll go back and find where and let people know or do you yourself know?):
FORGOTTEN FUNNIES : SHORT-LIVED TITLES OF THE GOLDENAGE
SPACE WESTERN COMICS
MIRACLE COMICS
THE CLOCK (which you said was the first published)
I have been in awe of your collection since you've been writing your articles and esp. since the feature about your collection in CBM 35 (see scan below). I never quite liked how they emphasized value when obviously you care about the books and the medium history. I had been envious (not jealous) of your collection but now that we got to know you, you are probably the best person to be the repository of these historical books. Thanks for everything
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# 7
Apache Kid 10 - Bought as a VG/F from Doug Sulipa
My copy seen above is a Canadian version. Below is the US version.
Notice between the two copies that the Canadian version badly blocked out both the month (Jan) and the letter K below the price. My copy also has the addition of CDL in black type (sadly, I can't seen to figure out if it is part of the print or if it is a later stamp but I tend to believe it is printed on the cover). My guess is that they are distributor's code and should not appear on the wrong side of the border. But what about the month deletion? There is a date stamp on my copy, located in the stack of hay right below the A of Apache stated Dec. 12 1951 which is in keeping with others I have. So no explanation for the month deletion as it appears both US and Canadian version would have been on stands at about the same time. While the title lasted until # 19 (before becoming Western Gunfighters), # 11 would not appear until December 1954! [see one can easily be fooled thinking a title was published continuously but certainly wasn't].
Content:
8966 The Raid of the Renegades by ? 7 pgs with Apache Kid, a.k.a. Aloysius Kare (AK you see )
9027 Red Arrow Strikes by ? 6 pgs with Apache Kid
9105 Where Danger Dwells by Allan Bellman 4 pgs with Black Panther
9028 The Winning of White Swan by ? 6 pgs with Apache Kid
While I can't ID the artist on the Apache Kid sequences, a lot of Apache Kid work was done by Werner Roth.
As far as the Bellman story, for those who like "fake" early appearances, how about this Black Panther? Who is he and what does he look like?
For more on Bellman, see our beloved Alter Ego 32 for his interview by Doc V. whose complete transcript can be seen at Bellman Interview with accompanying art as well as wonderful Splash Gallery (sans the one above, my bonus to you). I particularly like the Western Outlaws & Sheriffs #72 2nd story splash on the second page of the gallery.
As a parting shot, remember that these Canadian editions had Canadian ads and therefore in lieu of Charles Atlas, Canadian kids could dream to be as strong as Joe Bonomo:
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# 6
Animal Antics 37 - eBay purchase
Content:
The Racoon Kids by Otto Feuer 6 pgs. The RKs are Rudy and Rollo.
Dizzy Dog by Sheldon Mayer 6 pgs
Biggety Bear by Rube Grossman 6 pgs
The Racoon Kids by Otto Feuer 4 pgs
I didn't know much about the Racoon Kids until last night. Here's edited for brevity from Donald D. Markstein (all text his ©2004):
"... [DC] brought out two new funny animal anthologies in the early part of 1946. Nutsy Squirrel starred in one of them. The other, Animal Antics (first issue dated March-April of that year) introduced The Raccoon Kids.
The kids started out in the back pages, with the cover and lead story featuring a rabbit prestidigitator named Presto Pete. The Raccoons replaced Pete for one issue in #3 (July), then took over the cover and lead spot permanently, starting with #6 (January, 1947). The artist who handled them, not just at first but almost exclusively throughout their run, was Otto Feuer (The Dodo & the Frog). The writing credit is less certain, but they're believed to have been co-created by Sy Reit (Casper the Friendly Ghost). The same team (definitely Feuer on the art, probably Reit on the -script) was also responsible for Peter Porkchops.
Rudy and Rollo Raccoon were typical boys, only raccoons instead of humans, about 8 years old. They were twins, like Heckle & Jeckle or Dover & Clover, but few if any story points were made of their twinhood. They didn't even dress alike. In early stories, their nemesis was Uncle Percy, who frequently played mean tricks on them — but of course, they always managed to avenge themselves with even meaner tricks of their own. Though supposedly related, Percy didn't look like a raccoon. Maybe he was a short-haired weasel. Later, Percy was dropped from the cast, and the stars were played against a guy closer to their own age, named Muggsy Mole."
A final and interesting note:
" ... most [DC funny animal titles] modified their titles to suggest (without outright claiming) a connection to theatrical animation. Animal Antics became Movietown's Animal Antics with its 24th issue (February, 1950). Then all were re-titled after their lead features. Movietown's Animal Antics became Raccoon Kids with its 52nd issue (October, 1954)."
Somehow I already had the first pages of each story scanned so I'll put them up here.
Finally, I particularly like in-house ads across publishers, partly because they help me identify titles I need, partly because I like the manner in which they advertise their lines. As far as in-house ad, DC's, somewhat predictably, was quite staid (read: dull). Here's the then current line-up. Notice the additional ad for A Date with Judy TV show on ABC:
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# 5
All True Crime Cases 49 (Continued from Official True Crime whose numbering started at 24 in Fall 1947) - Purchased from Southern California Comics listed as a Fine.
Contents:
9532 Squeeze-Play by Vern Henkel 5 pgs.
9396 The Prisoners by Jack Keller 6 pgs.
9379 King of the Con Men by Bernie Krigstein 6 pgs
9446 The Frame-Up by Marion Sitton 6 pgs.
Greg Sadowki's book on Krigstein should be on everyone's shelf. Volume 1 is a great look at this artist's life. It is also a very well crafted in-depth analysis of his work.
As for Vern Henkel, the gentle folks at Alter Ego will be featuring an interview with him in the Eisner tribute May issue: AE 48
Useless Trivia: Fast forward over a year to November 1953. It seems that the cover art was still kicking around the office because it got reused on the cover of Justice 41 (look at the top left vignette) for of course a completely different story. Ah those were the continuity-free days
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I dunno ... maybe Holy Robin Corner Shock Pose But then who wouldn't be shocked upon seeing your friend attacked by an inflatable buoyancy (sp?) device [read blow-up snake or eel or whatever].
Now after making fun, I should ask how fun is the story to read actually? I have never read any of these as I am generally turned off by the covers' goofiness à la Zebra Batman.
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Not worried about fading much. This is in the basement so ambient light is minimal and the lights appear much worse in the scans than they are. I put the romances and westerns the closest to the lights anyway. Plus considering the average grade of the collection, I don't think I can do much more to harm their condition.
The computer is on the other side of the room so I am down there a lot + my job has me reading a lot so at times I go down away from all noise and enjoy the room. As far as furniture, well ... I had no choice / say in this as my wife insisted we dress up the shelves (which means furniture and more furniture).
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# 4
All-American Western 124 - Bought at last year's San Diego con.
Contents:
The Iron Horse's Last Run! by Alex Toth 6 pgs featuring John Tane aka Johnny Thunder
The Bushwacked Baggage by Gil Kane 6 pgs featuring Tony Barrett, owner of the Overland Coach
Six-Gun Showdown by Irwin Hasen 6 pgs featuring Harmony Hayes, the Minstrel Maverick
Terror on the Telegraphed Trail by Carmine Infantino 6 pgs. featuring Lt. Dan Foley
Yes, these reviled Westerns with a line-up of Toth, Kane, Hasen and Infantino
Useless Trivia: I am running an equine roster from our favorite western idols, so far:
Tim Holt aka Red Mask's horse is Lightning
Ghost Rider's horse is Spectre
Johnny Mack Brown's horse is Rebel
Black Diamond's horse is Reliapon
Bob Colt's horse is Buckskin
Bob Steele's horse is Bullett
Cisco Kid's horse is Diablo
Pancho's horse is Loco
Tex Rainger's horse is Calico (in Firehair Comics)
Zane Grey's horse is Rogue
Wyoming Kid's horse is Racer
Rodeo Rick's horse is Comet
Gene Autry's horse is Champion
Sandy McBane's horse is Boy
Hopalong Cassidy's horse is Topper
Smiley Burnette's horse is Ring Eye
Johnny Thunder's horse is Black Lightnin'
Rocky Lane's horse is Black Jack
Lone Rider's horse is Lightnin'
Apache Kid's horse is Nightwind
Tex Ritter's horse is White Flash
More to come ... I wonder if they checked other names, we came close here already with the multiple Lightnin', Black Lightnin' and Lightning. Maybe they are related. But Reliapon Not one of Biro finest's creation (if indeed, Biro scripted those)
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FFB,
one just sold yesterday on eBay. Looked like a kid read in a the shower though. You are right, they don't come around very often :
I needs it for my collection - Feb.-March 1952 You have any donation in mind
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# 3
Airboy by Hillman Vol. 9 # 2 - Bought from BedRock City at Chicago Con in 2003
Here's the content:
Valkyrie Strikes again by Ernest Schroeder 13 pgs
A Man's Best Friend by Mort Lawrence 6 pgs
The Faceless American by Bill Ely 6 pgs
You've got to keep driving by John Daly 5 pgs
The killer "Croc" by ? 4 pgs
The Heap by Ernest Schroeder 7 pgs
For an interview with Ernie Schroeder, check out AE # 12 at:
Notice that this a 52 pagers. Most books by this time had already decreased page count to 36, hence the mention on the cover of the 52 page length. To check out the evolution of the page count, see the Keltner index link at the bottom of the AE 42 page link above. Airboy itself was an enduring title with a total all said of 111 issues if you count the original Air Fighters issues. There were a total of 89 issues titled Airboy.
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Well the first two that came to mind were Casper and Richie Rich but I think Casper is older than Richie and would be a better comparison with Dennis.
Look over the CGC census for the early Casper series from St. John:
For # 1 (and I don't know if he appeared before, he must have), there is only one copy graded at VF. It doesn't get better for "later" issues. It seems to be the same scenario and Casper also endured with a multidude of titles.
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Adam,
2 funny animals in one evening. Thanks. I love those simple and effective covers. Blinding yellow on this one. Great stuff.
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Checking the OS instead of the GCD, Young Romance went uninterrupted for the whole period and it seems the same for Young Love.
CBG 1602 shows June 1972 Treasure Chest is v. 27 # 7 with the note that the cover states Summer
CBG 1598 shows March of Comics for March 1952 is # 81: Oswald the Rabbit and for June 1972 is # 370: Lassie. Generally I see the Gene Autry and Roy Rogers March of Comics for sale but I have never seen this Oswald the Rabbit one. Any dealer keeps these in inventory?
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Oh and before someone mentions the following: Young Love's hiatus from Prize to DC was: last Prize is December 1956 and first DC is Sept-Oct 1963.
Which leaves me to re-check on Young Romance and see if we need to disqualify it for too long a hiatus. I was swayed by Donut (? I think) on adding this one.
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Yes I know but somehow I disqualified Sweethearts because the hiatus was too long: last Fawcett was May 1953 and first Charlton was March 1954.
I'll have to go back and check how long between the Romantic Story from Fawcett to Charlton to see if we can re-institute Sweethearts. Plus I need to compare with the length of the Kid Colt hiatus. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. And Welcome to the Boards
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Number 2:
Adventures of Mighty Mouse # 3 by St. John - Took a chance on a bad scan on eBay for this one
Mighty Mouse also was appearing in its own titled book from St. John at the same time attesting to its popularity.
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Updating the list:
1) Hot Rods and Racing Cars - Charlton 1952 # 3 and 1972 # 108
2) Detective Comics - National 1952 # 174 and 1972 # 420
3) Action Comics - National 1952 # 166 and 1972 # 413
4) Archie Comics - Archie 1952 # 55 and 1972 # 217(?)
5) Laugh - Archie 1952 # 49 and 1972 # 255
6) Pep - Archie 1952 # 90 and 1972 # 266
7) Betty and Veronica - 1952 # 3 and 1972 # 199
8) Jughead - 1952 # 10 and 1972 # 205(?)
9) Blondie - 1952 Harvey # 40 and 1972 Charlton (via King) # 198(?)
10) Popeye - 1952 Dell # 19 and 1972 Charlton (via King) # 114
11) Batman - 1952 # 69 and 1972 #242
12) Wonder Woman - 1952 # 52 and 1972 # 200 (Nice new copy btw Dan)
13) Adventure Comics - 1952 # 174 and 1972 # 420
14) Superboy - 1952 # 18 and 1972 # 187
16) Heart Throbs - 1952 Quality # 9 and 1972 DC # 142
17) Young Romance - 1952 Crestwood # 43 and 1972 DC # 184(?)
18) Walt Disney's Comics and Stories - 1952 # 138 and 1972 # 381
19) Little Lulu - 1952 # 45 and 1972 # 204
20) Millie the Model - 1952 # 33 and 1972 # 199(?)
21) Sad Sack - 1952 # 16 and 1972 # 226
22) World's Finest - 1952 # 57 and 1972 # 212
23) Treasure Chest - 1952 v.7 # 14 and 15 and 1972 v.27 # ?
24) Superman - 1952 #75 and 1972 # 253
25) Tomahawk - 1952 # 10 and 1972 # 140
26) House of Mystery - 1952 # 2 and 1972 # 203
27) Strange Adventures - 1952 # 18 and 1972 # 236
28) Tarzan - 1952 Dell # 30 and DC # 209
29) Tom and Jerry - 1952 # 92 and 1972 # 274(?)
30) Kid Colt, Outlaw - 1952 # 19 and 1972 # 159 [Counted even with the hiatus]
31) Girls' Love Stories - 1952 # 16 and 1972 # 170
32) March of Comics - 1952 # 79-93? and 1972 # [i'll check with the recent CBG that had the publishing history of this tonight for the right numbers]
I added Tom & Jerry and March of Comics to the list. The last one to close this trivia out is:
33) Romantic Story - 1952 Fawcett # 15 and 1972 Charlton # 119 [with a definite hiatus; for more on these Fawcett to Charlton transition books, look over recent Alter Egos/ FCAs]
WOW - it took this group a combined time of only 8 to 10 hours to complete (and refine) this list. Congrats on all who pitched in.
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Going over the replies, we have identified:
1) Hot Rods and Racing Cars - Charlton 1952 # 3 and 1972 # 108
2) Detective Comics - National 1952 # 174 and 1972 # 420
3) Action Comics - National 1952 # 166 and 1972 # 413
4) Archie Comics - Archie 1952 # 55 and 1972 # 217(?)
5) Laugh - Archie 1952 # 49 and 1972 # 255
6) Pep - Archie 1952 # 90 and 1972 # 266
7) Betty and Veronica - 1952 # 3 and 1972 # 199
8) Jughead - 1952 # 10 and 1972 # 205(?)
9) Blondie - 1952 Harvey # 40 and 1972 Charlton (via King) # 198(?)
10) Popeye - 1952 Dell # 19 and 1972 Charlton (via King) # 114
11) Batman - 1952 # 69 and 1972 #242
12) Wonder Woman - 1952 # 52 and 1972 # 200 (Nice new copy btw Dan)
13) Adventure Comics - 1952 # 174 and 1972 # 420
14) Superboy - 1952 # 18 and 1972 # 187
16) Heart Throbs - 1952 Quality # 9 and 1972 DC # 142
17) Young Romance - 1952 Crestwood # 43 and 1972 DC # 184(?)
18) Walt Disney's Comics and Stories - 1952 # 138 and 1972 # 381
19) Little Lulu - 1952 # 45 and 1972 # 204
20) Millie the Model - 1952 # 33 and 1972 # 199(?)
21) Sad Sack - 1952 # 16 and 1972 # 226
22) World's Finest - 1952 # 57 and 1972 # 212
23) Treasure Chest - 1952 v.7 # 14 and 15 and 1972 v.27 # ?
Mad Magazine - Taken out as # 1 is not out yet in March. See the other with the stunning 9.8
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse are both out because they were as mentioned in FCs at the time (same for $crooge).
OK time to confess, I messed up my matches (I had Little Lulu in my 52 file and Marge's Little Lulu in my 72 file for example or World's Finest vs. World's Finest Comics) so there are more than 23 in total; so far, I show a count of 31 (with your help). This is pretty fast work. 8 to go. There are still a few obvious titles left.
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Correct! 1 down 22 to go:
1) Hot Rods and Racing Cars - Charlton 1952 # 3 and 1972 # 108.
A Month in the Life of the Comics
in Golden Age Comic Books
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# 10
Adventures into the Unknown # 29 - Recent eBay arrival (hence the alphabetical lateness)
Don't you just hate it when Sue gets pi$$ed! And yes, there is no story inside relating to the cover.
Contents:
Cover by Ken Bald
Invasion of the Ghost-Monsters by Ken Bald 9 pgs
Ship of Death by Charlie Sultan 9 pgs
The Mark of the Monster by Edvard Moritz 8 pgs
The Hands of Darkness by ? 8 pgs
The Witches' Brew by Edvard Moritz 9 pgs
I find that ACG could have been more than what it was. It certainly had the artists needed to be successful but I feel it's the stories that put them in the forgotten publisher of the Atom age category. Think about it, this is the company that put out the first (continuing) horror comic book but you'd be hard pressed to have the general comic book community (twenty and thirty-something readers) remember their output. I'll come back to ACG later on other books and will also talk more about Michael Vance's book: Forbidden Adventures - The History of the American Comics Group at that point.
Today, I just want to concentrate on Ken Bald. You can find an excellent overview of his career and examples of his strip work on Dr. Kildare and on Dark Shadows at the Rules of Attraction website and the second part here. For that matter check the entire feature here. Hurry, the articles are not permanent.
From Vance's book, quoting Norman Fruman, ACG Assistant Editor:
"I remember - it was Ken Bald in fact, one of our artists - talking to me about how uncomfortable he was drawing this stuff, and realizing when his wife and kids came into the room he'd want to cover it up so they couldn't see what he was doing. ... They were getting bloodier and bloodier."
Actually, I find there is stronger art in this issue than what Bald did so I won't show you his splash page. However, it illustrate a characteristic of Richard Hughes (ACG's editor) to favor the story to the art. Otherwise, on most books, the strongest art story is in front to hook the casual peruser to clinch the sale but Hughes chose to ignore this in favor of a story involving famous literary characters brought back to life, an idea that I know what have appealed to him (and for that matter, he may have written it himself). Also, Hughes was running an editor column (the first one of his genre(?)) as seen here:
Ok, since most everyone that chimed in likes to see interior art, here are two examples (Thanks everyone for the kind words of encouragement, I am thrilled that you like to see the inside of these. I'll keep on posting those. They are the most important to me as well).
DD: as far as buying that Astonishing, you'd probably be better off buying this and have more fun that with some lackluster endings in that Astonishing issue.