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Terry Doyle
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That's a good one.
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A more recent-ish photo of the same building (Liverpool Football Club's stadium can be seen in the distance):
The area is currently undergoing regeneration and a lot of the buildings surrounding the old cinema have now been demolished to pave the way for new structures.
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Found this old photo on one of the FB groups I'm a member of. It shows my local cinema in Liverpool, UK (where I grew up in), dated from around 1929 (as per the then movie being shown).
The movie posters on prominent display are single sheet format (the UK would later move to quad poster designs, landscape in format) and their huge printed size displays the impact they held as an advertising tool.
The cinema was about a five minute walk away from where I lived and closed-down in the late 1960s (though the building still remains to this day - now used as a warehouse, I believe).
Very nostalgic to come across this image!
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Early Dr. Strange page from Strange Tales #171 with The Ancient One and Clea. Dr. Strange reveals the saga of his beloved Clea.
Did you see the movie yet?
Isn't this from Dr Strange (solo title) rather than Strange Tales???
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Interestingly, Mark's commented on my post suggesting a price range of between $500 - 1,000 for the card artworks.
Higher than he previously advised me in e-mail exchange (which, if memory serves me right, was $500 tops)!
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Did I actually disclose what Mark's estimates were???
I consulted MTG dealer Mark Aaronowitch over ball-park figures for Kev's work and the price-range he advised is now being way-surpassed by prices being realised on the aforementioned FB MTG Art Exchange.
You didn't say exactly his estimates, but you explicitly stated it was much lower than the prices of the landscapes. Using my experience (limited as it may be), I can infer a range he would have given you. I could be way off, but it's not like you said nothing about his estimates.
I have my opinions of the valuation just like everyone else. That's all they are though...opinions. The only way to know is auction, which I know you aren't ready to do, and may never be. That's OK! I like you Terry, and your taste in art too
No hard feelings. Apologies, the emboldened text was there to emphasise a point, not to seem like I was shouting at you! We're good.
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First response to my MTG FB page post:
"I don't think the prices on the new Walker lands will correlate with much of a value change on his other non-landscape pieces.
I only say this because Kev landscapes are exceptionally rare. Everything else is more common due to the prolific nature of his contributions to Magic.
So, having said that... To the right collector I'd guess these pieces are worth to upwards of $1250 (unless one is on a popular card that I'm not aware of). If I was selling, I think anything over $750-$850 each would make me happy.
The one exception might be the book cover... I think that could garner more interest and go higher than the others."
I posted 4 card artworks together with a wraparound book cover. The estimates on this reply are 2 to 3 times the estimates given to me by Mark.
Interesting . . .
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What I'll probably do is post a few Kev Walker examples on the MTG FB page and ask for a consensus of opinions over likely value. That might be a fun exercise (and also tell me if Mark's estimates, which I don't remember disclosing, are accurate).
Done. Let the experts decide . . .
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What I'll probably do is post a few Kev Walker examples on the MTG FB page and ask for a consensus of opinions over likely value. That might be a fun exercise (and also tell me if Mark's estimates, which I don't remember disclosing, are accurate).
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Well I think the main point is that the value depends on the card/subject matter more than the art or artist
Same is ultimately true in comics. (Ditko spidey v ditko charlton).
Agree, but it seemed like Terry was thinking Mark's estimates were off. My contention is they probably aren't that far off, and the recent sales are not representative of most Kev Walker works.
Did I actually disclose what Mark's estimates were???
I agree that these current auctions reflect the fact that these are high-interest pieces, but then again not so long ago someone on these boards sold on eBay (what was to me) a fairly routine example that fetched $1,600.
In any case, I'm not actively looking to sell anything. Just taking note of the action for possible future reference.
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The FB MTG Art Exchange page continues to be a bit of an eye opener for me, especially with the auctioning-off of recent Kev Walker originals having a starting point of $2,000 (that quickly escalate in price).
In recent times I've had enquiries about Kev Walk MTG originals that I own (that I wasn't looking to sell). My response to such enquiries was usually along the lines of, "NFS, but I'll listen if you have a tempting offer to make" (which always killed-off the line of enquiry stone cold dead in the water).
I consulted MTG dealer Mark Aaronowitch over ball-park figures for Kev's work and the price-range he advised is now being way-surpassed by prices being realised on the aforementioned FB MTG Art Exchange.
If or when the time comes for me to release any MTG originals, the FB page seems to be the best vehicle to either consult (for private sales purposes), or to be used as a sales venue.
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Only a small handful of OA pieces actually sold (mostly low-end stuff). Main consignor seems to be Coolines (no big surprises that reserves weren't met).
Love to hear the auction house's reaction to this embarrassing fiasco?
You got to admit it helps make piece become stale faster
I just e-mailed the OA contact at Pedigree to enquire about the background to this fiasco. If I hear anything back, I'll post the reply on this thread . . .
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In Europe we don't have this kind of discussion, because all auctioned items (I mean *real* auctions - not eBay - such as the ones from Christie's, Sotheby's, Artcurial, Millon...) have an estimation, and all auctioned items have a reserve price which is often set at the low estimation price. Which means in fact that estimations are not real expert estimations but are driven by the reserve price negociated with the seller.
Interesting. What percentage of those auction items sell, by meeting their reserve? Most?
Also, does bidding start at the reserve price?
Auction houses tend to refuse items if the seller asks for a reserve too high. If they have many items not sold at auction, it doesn't look good.
Pedigree take note.
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Only a small handful of OA pieces actually sold (mostly low-end stuff). Main consignor seems to be Coolines (no big surprises that reserves weren't met).
Love to hear the auction house's reaction to this embarrassing fiasco?
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Just picked up a new piece....take a look at
Lemme guess..."Banned in 23 states. And Canada."?
Is it up to 93,000 views yet?
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56840 WOMAN WONDER 7 PAGE STORY-MAD #10-MAJOR GRAIL PIECE!!! $2,500 $924,000 4 Hr(s), 11 Min(s)
Of course there's the Mad WW story sitting at $924K
My bid of $2,500 didn't cut it...
Is that the one that features 'The Great Nivlem'?
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Not a good idea to be paying full price up-front on a yet to be started commission (unless it's with someone with a known 100% track record for honouring his side of the bargain). A reasonable deposit should have been sufficient to show how serious you were in seeing the deal through.
Not much use to you now hearing this, but at least you'll know better next time (if there will be a next time).
If the artist's blocking your calls, I suggest sending him a polite reminder (perhaps spelling out your option of naming-and-shaming if he continues to stall).
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This dude got an 18 month ban from sanctioned magic for this. I'm guessing he thinks it was worth it.
Butt-crack, the Gathering. Hilarious.
Total respect.
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It's hard to believe that you can get a fully rendered movie poster painting like this for the same price as a third-tier Bronze Age panel page.
Definitely! If I knew then what I know now, I would have ventured into movie poster art a long time ago . . .
Instead of having a Man Cave filled with comic-book art, how about a Cinema Room (sufficing with a large-scale flat-screen TV) adorned with movie poster original paintings? Would look cool and be guaranteed to impress all your friends!
And don't forget to stock up on the popcorn . . .
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"Never Say Never" James Bond art by Tom Chantrell at £3,750 (likely to have been commissioned for a video sleeve tand may not have been used):
(Sorry, link I had doesn't work . . . just use the search facility on the previous link).
The real question is whether Gene bought it on a hot tip
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"Never Say Never" James Bond art by Tom Chantrell at £3,750 (likely to have been commissioned for a video sleeve tand may not have been used):
(Sorry, link I had doesn't work . . . just use the search facility on the previous link).
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"1,000,000 Years B.C." prototype artwork by Tom Chantrell sells at £2,000:
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Mitch Itkowitz has recently updated his CAF to include a couple of movie poster originals that are not currently displayed on his web-site, Graphic Collectibles.
One of these is an Italian one-sheet version for the 1967 (non-Horror) Hammer Films production of 'Viking Queen'.
Worth a look.
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Outstanding, Gene.
No hard feelings. 
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