Kitsune

Thanks Eddie for the great comics. Packaged very well and transaction went smooth.

You are not helping yourself any in this discussion when you post some of the comments that you do. I saw those two posts you deleted on the previous page. Telling people they are a bunch of a@@es is not the way to go. If anything, you are confirming something for folks that is going to hurt your reputation on here in the long run. Consider that with anything else you post here. He is hurt that I didn't pay and wants me on PL. He pm me last night letting me know about PL. I stated to him prior that I will pay after SDCC. It is now after SDCC which I have returned his message about paying which he did not reply. I have stated in this thread numerous of times about paying but it seems like he is more hurt and needs a hug than money.

RMA, I offered to pay you last night but yet you refused to sell to me and still complaining I have yet to send you payment. So what is it going to be? Sell to me? Or keep lying telling everybody that I have yet to send you payment?

That's exactly what should have happened here. Otherwise, why threaten the buyer with the PL and then back out? It doesn't make any sense at all other than to bring his name up on here. Pretty much as I stated earlier this morning in a reply in this thread about amends by paying him but apparently he wants me to get down like James Brown and suck his coo coo....

okay, noted!

Yes, these two sentences really did proceed one after the other, with nothing in between. that doesn't matter, making amends to your crying means me paying for your book.

Please explain to me the PL time line to add or post about adding people to PL. 72hrs from first notice of pm or 72hrs from the dealine of 30 days to pay?

Yes this is my understanding also (quoting the rules) "the 30 day clock begins from the time the agreed upon conditions were violated." So if he had until "the end of the month" of June, then the 30 day expires "end of July". Let us hope perhaps this can be resolved before then. I accepted him altering the terms of the sale. I did not "agree" to it, because agreements are made PRIOR TO the deal, not after the fact. I simply had no choice if I wanted the transaction to be completed. I was trying to graciously accomodate a customer, and that grace was taken advantage of. The clock starts ticking with the unqualified unless arrangements are made PRIOR to that. You don't get to make your own terms after the fact, and then that's "where the clock starts." Did you not agree to letting me pay at end of June? I'm sure you did type, "Sure, that's fine." That too me doesn't show that you disagree or was upset about me asking you to pay at the end of the month. No choice? Everybody has a choice. You had the choice to not agreed to letting me pay at the end of June. Am I right? You could have stuck to your terms but when I asked "I don't get paid until the end of the month so is that okay?" That isn't a term, it was purely asking if you willing to accept in which you did. Anyways, enough of these issues. If you want to complete this transaction as I stated in my pm to you yesterday that I would pay that night or today, what is it going to be? Me pay you and get this done with or you don't want to accept my payment and the transaction and continue your crying to the board? I'm trying to make an amends here.

I'm new here so from my understanding if you put up this icon means it's the buy it now button. Is there a thread about this icon and how we do business on this forum? When you post that icon it means "I'll take that book" and the PL rules give a buyer up to 30 days to pay from the time of posting to complete payment. If you needed more time to pay than 30 days you should have discussed it with the seller prior to posting the This was a comment towards Mr. Ball's thread not yours. Apparently you didn't read the quote prior.

Never put or threw in conditions. I asked if I could and he agreed. For instance: You posted an unqualified in my sales thread. THEN you asked if you could wait until the end of June. Yes I asked if I could pay at the end of June and you said what? You agreed did you not? If you did not agree then you could have just stated pay now or within 3 days but you didn't. You agreed to me asking for time. I did not throw any conditions on purchasing, I only asked for permission and no terms where implied or stated on my end.

I'm new here so from my understanding if you put up this icon means it's the buy it now button. Is there a thread about this icon and how we do business on this forum?

He stated he put on eBay so it's still unsure if he has it.

so you've paid him? (I ask since its the afternoon of the 23rd) How can you pay when they don't reply or cooperate?

Never put or threw in conditions. I asked if I could and he agreed. For instance: I never stated I will buy but will only pay on these conditions...etc... However, I did stated I will buy and I ASKED IF I could pay after a certain date...and yet he agreed to give me a grace period. No conditions on my end. How can there be conditions when I purely asked if it was okay?

He pm me on the 21st of July stating putting me on PL. I replied on 22nd of July stating I pay that night or next morning but no response from him except his post in this thread. I tried to make amends for the problems that I have caused but it seems he doesn't want too. Nothing I can do but oh well... It's funny how he gets all butt hurt to my comment..

That wasn't what happened Speedy and you know it. He used the threat of PL to call a guy out to complete a transaction... then said he wasn't going to sell him the book AND continue with trying to put him on the PL. No matter how dbagy the guy was, that can't be done. And I'm not taking the guy's side either, he should have just paid for the book... but RMA bringing it here and going through the motions to get to the point to nominate the guy for inclusion to the PL... is the steps to COMPLETE a transactions that has been started between two boardies. Its not right to dangle completion and then go all coitus interruptus on the guy no matter how bad his attitude is in the sales bed. Knowing RMA's pleasantness here on the boards, I'm sure his notification of PL discussion and 72 hour time frame was probably the most sweet and sincere thing the guy had ever read as well. Again the guy was wrong in dragging out the sale... but the PL discussion board and 72 hour notification rule did what it was supposed to do if the guy offered to pay for the item... which is complete the sale. This is complete BS. Not surprising that you can't separate your feelings from fact but this is embarrassing. RMA brought the situation before the boards via the discussion thread and asked what he could do. I would tell you to go read it again and see where you have made a Grand Canyon size leap in logic but you have already entered the "answer the question" phase. Using your same logic, every buyer from one of your sales thread could do the same thing and you would be fine with it right? No? Gimme a break. He never brought anything to the board on what he should or could do, he just nominated...

Do you mean your post of July 17? I understand that you have been trying to get a satisfactory response via PM, but have you sent him a PM specifically saying "I am nominating you for the PL list" etc. The rules give the offender 72hrs after getting notice to reply here with their side of the story. Wait, the offender has to reply HERE? Cool. Kitsune...? Tell your side of the story. Time for the PL. He doesn't have to. You just gotta send him a PM and then give him 72 hours to tell his side, if he wants to. Which he did and the guy offered to pay... no matter how unappreciative he did it... he did offer to pay. Not saying he will...just that according to RMA post of his PM here... that he did offer. True, which would put a cramp in RMA's style if he were still trying to put the dude on the PL (is he?). But it doesn't give kitsune the right to turn the tables. Could be but not addressed in the rules. Isn't it? After 30 days, if the buyer hasn't paid, their deal has gone south. The seller is free to resell, or put the buyer on the PL. If the seller were at the mercy of the buyer's coming back at any time demanding the comic, that'd make little sense, don't you think? That would be counter-intuitive, I agree. Given the purpose and intent of "the list", the potential probie isn't given such power or ability. All I'm saying is Chris... if RMA brings it here and wants to paid, and the guy offers to pay... no matter how rude he is, the whole reason behind coming to this thread worked. You are, for the third time, mistaken. I accept the fact that he cannot be put on the PL if he offers to pay. I was hoping he would ignore that, so that he could be put on the probation list. This is, as has been mentioned, not the first time he has done this. However, due to the consistently disrespectful manner in which kitsune has behaved (asking for additional time to pay AFTER posting an unqualified , promising to pay by the end of June, then not paying without any notification as to why, ignoring PMs, then stating that he wouldn't be paying until after SDCC, etc etc etc,), I have chosen not to sell the book to him. If that gets him off the PL hook...so be it. It should not, however, then turn around and be grounds for putting me on instead. I question your motives. First off, I admit it was my fault that I didn't pay on time. However, on July 21st, RMA did not offer me a last chance to pay. I stated I will by on 6/21. On 7/09 he stated if I didn't pay he put on eBay. By the way, not everybody can be on the computer and check their pm's constantly, people have lifes to live... I didn't reply because I didn't check this forum and with his statement if I didn't pay that day he put it up on eBay. So no point in replying... On 7/21/2013 he pm me stating he putting me on PL. On 7/22 regardless of my comment to him, I offer to pay that night or the next day. Yet he did not reply with my offer to resolve his issues. 7/21 was the full 30 days to pay according to what people stated here to complete a transaction at the utmost latest. Also he had to give me 72 hours to resolve issues which he didn't. http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6880022&fpart=1745 As far as Mr. Ball's, I never stated I would buy your infinity gauntlet set. I stated I must have but by no means did I put up a That can be seen here: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1646534&nt=106&fpart=1 My comment on Mr. Ball's thread... http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6808486&fpart=2 Again, I stated it was my fault for not paying, which I admit. However, I made it to where I tried to make amends by paying but seller did not respond. Regardless if you or he have perceived my reply as douchey or whatever you think, I did offer to pay that night or tomorrow morning. People stated the rules to resolve the matter prior to putting on PL within 72 hours and if that is the case; I have replied within 24 hours to offer to resolve this matter.