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FLIRT Dec 1947 1ST ISSUE! VG/F cream pages Foxing on cover, store stamp.. Billy DeVorse cover. $175

FILM FUN Dec 1940 VG/F cream pages 1" spine split at bottom. George Quintana cover. $225 SOLD

PEP STORIES Oct 1932 VG+ cream - white pages. Pages are a mix of newsprint and slick. Exposed breast cover. Racy stories and nude photos. Stiff covered magazine format, staple bound, slightly larger than a pulp. $400

GINGER 8/35 V.1 #4 VG light tan/white pages Rust on staples- no bleed. Covers inside and out have a rough "orange peel" texture - printing defect George Quintana cover. $800

STOLEN SWEETS 6/35 V.1 #2 VG- light tan/white pages Spine split to above top staple, cover still attached at both staples. Story pages are light tan but still supple, nude pin up pages are better stock and still bright white. George Quintana cover. $900

in thread rules. Returnable in 14 days for any reason. $7 shipping in US. At cost elsewhere. Free U.S. shipping on purchases of $500 or more. No HOSers or probies. Paypal, zelle, check or M.O. Need a couple weeks to pay? - no problem, I'll hold the books for you. Unfortunately I must collect sales tax from buyers in California. I will invoice when I have zip code. I will discount tax against shipping costs. No sales tax on sales outside California.

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I bought all her books back in the 80s and early 90s including the first edition of Girls And Boys when I was living in Seattle in 1981. I enjoyed them all, but I guess lost interest in newer material at some point. I did sell them all in the last couple of years (to one buyer on ebay). Maybe I should have re-read them first, but I was in downsizing mood.

I don't understand paying anymore for these Red Circle "variants" than one would for a nice coverless copy. That's what they are, with a pretty generic and fairly common replacement cover slapped on.

Yikes! I've seen some mangled boxes before, but that takes the cake.

I like books like these as relatively affordable copies. Decent presentation of the front cover, decent page quality, and complete story contents. There are some books with back cover pin-ups and the like where the back cover would be missed, but short of interior ad pages, the back cover is frequently the least important part of the book. I've never owned a big key like this, but I've had several books over the years missing the back cover, but with a presentable front cover, that I have preferred to technically complete copies with ratty looking front covers.

Though not always and not all reasons are all that reasonable.

I like him as an artist, more so his later stuff, but his writing in the early underground days failed to engage me.

Just in anthologies, was never that much of a Corben fan.

The published price was $37.95, and the publishing company was formed only to publish this one book. I would be surprised if more than a few hundred of these ever sold.

I predict that if I decide to unload all the undergrounds I've been carting around for 30-40 years, they will start accelerating in value the day after I've sold the last one.

I bid, but with the knowledge that their grades are "generous", and after looking closely at descriptions and pictures.

Pulps are still cheaper than comics when considering age, import , availability and desirability, and while that's not peanuts, it still seems more reasonable than some recent comic prices. While the contents might not be that notable, WT was a seminal title of the pulp era, widely collected, and one of the few titles recognizable to non-pulp collectors and fans. A question I have for collectors, is there any expected price difference between first and second state editions, which is scarcer, and which do people personally prefer appearance wise? I find something compellingly weird in the reversed oranges and blacks in the first state.

Wow, that looks unread.

It's not the first time I've seen them give books with fairly notable pieces missing a grade higher than one would have thought, though it seems more often that the book is from the Golden Age. As you say, CGC generally seems to have higher thresh holds for specific flaws than Overstreet guidelines would accept. On a personal level, sometimes I agree with this assessment, sometimes I don't, in this case I don't think they are too far off, but that's in part because I don't consider back cover flaws to be quite as impactful as front cover flaws. I seemed to be in the minority when I brought that topic up for discussion on the boards years ago, with the general opinion that a flaw is a flaw, and should factor the same into the grade whether front or back cover. Most argued that CGC does not make a distinction when considering front and back cover flaws, and perhaps in their actual guidelines this might be true, but I've seen enough books to feel certain that at least subconsciously they often do make the distinction. Had that same piece been missing front a front corner and not the back, I imagine it would have gotten a 5.0.

At least he didn't trim the left side.

I didn't realize cocaine was a cure for dandruff.

That variance is nothing compared to Fiction House books from the 1940s.

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I meant that in the 1970s you didn't see Marvel chipping on early 60s Marvels. The problem was aggravated by the printing process, but the books didn't start chipping along the edge until the paper stock on the cover had aged to the point where the edge was no longer supple. It's a myth that these books came off the printing press chipped. As I said, small tears from the cutting process along the edge can alone account for some loss, as the tears continue through handling, but the loss of suppleness at the edge is what causes a lot of pieces to break off. While there is often a correlation between brittleness on the interior and the cover of old books, they don't always occur in tandem. There are books with brittle pages and fairly supple covers, and the opposite. Quality of cover stock is likely a factor in the Marvel chipping process, even if the quality defect isn't evident until the paper ages. Atlas books sometimes show this chipping, and appear more prone to interior tanning of the cover stock than some other publishers of the era, so this was a problem with the publisher's output that predates the return of the Marvel brand, and you sometimes see chipped edges from other publishers, though less frequently. Paper ages gradually, though not evenly, and even those books from 50 or 60 years ago that seem remarkably supple are not as supple as a new comic. Books don't just shift from supple to brittle, the fibers become ever so more fragile over time, and at the point they break from handling we tend to call them brittle, but long before that we are aware that handling can potentially damage the paper in ways not so easily done with a brand new comic. Brittle is an ugly word in paper collectibles, and I understand the desire to avoid using it, I do the same, but let's be honest, many of the flaws found in older books like edge chipping and spine splitting are frequently the result of not just mishandling, but fragility of of paper stock due to age. We will avoid using the dreaded b word as long as possible, particularly with cover stock, but everything is heading that direction.