CBT

Cool topic.  ComicsPriceGuide used to claim there was a Battlestar Galactica one from Futureshop, falling under the 2006 Dynamite series.  I tried for 10 years plus to find one, and eventually they removed the listing from their guide.  As best as I could determine, it never actually existed.  But, it still haunts/bothers me .

great topic/thread, nice collection!

On 4/1/2020 at 11:46 PM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

I think what we currently consider the Modern Age will be broken down into a few ages. At the very least, the launch of DC's New 52 was close enough to Marvel Now and the relaunch of Valiant that 2011-2012 is a cusp between ages.

Also, was going to start a thread on this very topic but someone beat me to it.

2011 - 2020 is the speculation Age

After the 1st Guardians movie came out, with Knowhere in it, I accelerated my buying of this series with the Goal of completing it all in 9.8.

Haven't really bought much for a few years, but I am a huge Eternals fan (Sersi will be the main character for sure).  It's great seeing it getting love and going mainstream.

I have multiple NM+++ copies of any of the books I dont already have in 9.8 (excluding price variants, not my cup of tea).  I think I have the whole series in 9.8, but really should have got them slabbed earlier.

Any issues I end up only hitting 9.6 on will be a lot more to purchase in 9.8 now, then when I did most of the collecting on this.

God Bless you Stan, the greatest of all time.

Even after 95 years years, and when its been coming for a while, its hard to let the legends go.

On 8/30/2018 at 8:20 PM, Davidone said:

I follow as many spec sites as I can find. When this book got hot, I did not see anyone pumping it up. If anyone has a link, a screenshot of an article or thread discussing this book PRIOR to it getting hot, that would be interesting to see. 

I picked up 30 copies from my LCS at cover when it was a $12 book. I later noticed there were very few copies available on ebay. Believe it not, there were only 2 or 3 at most. I was one of the first sellers to start getting a premium price for this book. After that, it went crazy for a couple weeks ($70-$80 raw NM-) and then settled down. 

People are quick to blame spec sites but that doesn't always explain every trend. Sometimes you have to actually read modern books to understand what's going on in the market. Movies are not everything.

 

So:

a.) "I follow as many spec sites as I can find.... I bought 30 copies of a book"  

b.)  ....dont blame speculators/spec sites

K, got it.

I subscribed to and read the book when it came out ("Sometimes you have to actually read modern books to understand what's going on in the market"), and picked up a couple extra because i knew the speculator horde would eventually descend on the book.

It's very amusing the hoops some sites and people will go through to not call a spade a spade.

The Honey Badger character was much better in the original series she launched in, for the record.  As time went on,she became a bit of a caricature of herself.  She's an SJW dream though, so I am sure she will continue to get lots of books, and future play in multimedia spin offs (games or tv/movies).

one of the great ones, from a better time, RIP

On 5/13/2018 at 2:43 AM, Cosmos Comics said:

I would buy it in a heartbeat if I had the money and its is one of those comics that if you are going to buy it you have to get it in a 9.6 or 9.8.

That's not a good thing, for any book.  That's the definition of manufactured rarity...

1 minute ago, Bosco685 said:

And then Disney held it out in theaters for an extended period over a large distribution.

Plus, you predicted what?

'Don't lie'

yah

1.) you left out the quote where you said it wouldnt make  $850, which is WHAT i responded to, with everything I said.

2.) $854 is around $860

I like you for the most part, but your March reply is a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed bag childish PoS thing. 

I have said my response. I am done in this thread.  Grow up, be a man, and dont play misquoting games just cause you got it wrong.

2 minutes ago, CBT said:

 

Strongly disagree about $850, using actual numbers:

I wrote about the fact it would make $850 guaranteed.  You said it wouldnt.  You were wrong.  The End

My numbers were based on a direct comparison on a week to week basis.  I said its theoretical max was $875, if it tracked the other movie exactly, but that its international wasnt there.

My prediction was $850 guaranteed, final around $860.

Thats what it was.

You predicted it would fail to make $850, and were wrong.

2 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

'Don't lie'

On 12/22/2017 at 7:03 AM, Bosco685 said:

Like other movies that had a period of a few weeks with limited competition, Ragnarok is now experiencing a slowdown due to multiple new movies. It is now questionable if it will reach $850M.

Quote

 

 

Strongly disagree about $850, using actual numbers:

 

Just now, Bosco685 said:

Nice try. But the $860M-$870M didn't happen.

Dont lie, you are mis-quoting yourself and me.

On 3/26/2018 at 6:41 PM, Bosco685 said:

 

 

 

'Actual numbers analysis' didn't end up so 'actual'. Not that this movie was not a tremendous success.

just saw this now.

My prediction was guaranteed $850, final total "around $860",  as you quoted final number was  $854.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

Actual analysis was ACTUAL and nailed it.

On 1/12/2018 at 5:26 PM, Bosco685 said:

THE CONTINENTAL: Starz Confirms Development On JOHN WICK Television Series

 

This actually sounds good, the limitless comparison is a good one too in this thread.  That show was outstanding, sad it got cancelled, fabulous fabulous writing on that show.

1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

This may turn out to be the female-led production MCU actresses asked for recently.

Women of Marvel Cinematic Universe Come Together in One Glorious Photo

 

Sure hope not.

Black Widow & Hawkeye has been my prediction for Phase 4 for a long time, and I hope that's what they go with.

Having the Hawkeye & Winter Soldier book come out under Tales of Suspense felt like a non-coincidence.  Winter Soldier would fit right in with a Black Widow story, set in the present or the past.

Sure as heck don't need Wakandans, Valkyries, or Guadians in a Black Widow film.

The writer is pretty green, but at least she's a rising star which suits Marvel's M.O.  MCU needs to keep going with the best people and meritocracy, not virtue signalling.  If they go Female Director and Producer, just because MUH Female Lead Character, they sure as heck better be darn-talented and not just hacks like what happened with so many of the print comics.

1 minute ago, rat chew said:

What is he? 90 something? He can't be held responsible for his actions.

and he likely didnt DO anything...

20 hours ago, seredynskib said:

This accusation seems false to me because:

1.) The Daily Mail is a tabloid that even Wikipedia doesn’t recognize as real news.

2.) The “unidentifed source”

3.) No evidence from the “unidentified source” & his current nursing company says he has been only respectful and kind to his nurses.

4.) No one went to the police.

5.) Stan Lee was extorted for $300,000 just a week ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if those same people are behind this in an act of revenge/blackmail.

6.) Very uncharacteristic of his public image. I don’t think I’ve ever even heard the man swear, much less talk the way this article claims.

I agree with everything you say, other than wikipedia being quoted as an authority on anything.

If this was a legitimate claim, the goal would be punishment, not winning the lottery.  Just like so often people accuse politicians of things, and then as soon as the election passes, the accusers vanish like Keyser Söze into thin air.  If the accusations are real, the person will want justice regardless of whether it benefits them directly or not.

Since Stan Lee will have an estate after he is gone, I would expect this nonsense will not go away anytime soon.

My thoughts:

If he actually physically assaulted someone, charge him and put him in prison.  If he was rude and there is proof, make him apologize and stop working for him but no LOTTO MAX paydays for hurt feelings.

If the person accused him falsely, sue her into homelessness and throw her into debtors prison...

That article says:

"People have accused him".

"He has denied".

Yet in this thread, people talk about it like its, a.) true, b.) happened, c.) confirmed.

My personal opinion is its far more likely an attempt to extort money from him by exaggeration/fabrication, but only EVIDENCE matters.  If no proof of it comes out, then fake for sure.

One positive thing for Ragnarok, the week Star Wars came out (Week 7), it only fell by $210 per theatre.  So it's audience per screening barely budged, despite the biggest movie of the year coming out.

Now, it was shown in 1,152 LESS theatres, but the income PER matters for hanging around longer.

Another interesting note, while dropping 1,152 theatres is a lot, Guardians actually dropped more, or 1,371 theatres, from week 6 to 7. (Though it was making significantly more per theatre, it took about two weeks longer to settle in to a stable amount per)

16 hours ago, paperheart said:

Thor only made $1MM internationally last weekend, so you can deduct $11-12MM from your international estimate

UHM... My International estimate was never stated to be 11-12M??

I said IF Ragnarok followed Guardians using the current ratios, it would finish with $875(it wont), and as you quoted me, I said $860ish is the likely total. 

If you take your $12MM off of the $875 it would get "tracking Guardians declines" , that's $863, and I said likely around $860 (probably struggling to reach it), which included trimming back the domestic track also.

$850 is all but assured, $860 will be tough, but as I said:

It will be increased movie goers for the holidays   vs   shorter run in theatres & better competition

Domestic tends to hold stronger longer, and Guardians did its winning there, versus Ragnarok beating it in foreign, likely Ragnarok can't catch Guardians, but there is still an outside chance.

At least it didnt let DC crack into the top 3

16 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

'Actual Numbers based analysis'?

It started dropping below the $1M/weekday about two weeks ago, but has had steady $500K/day average for those two weeks. The weekend results has been in the $2m (+) range due to Disney maintaining a high theater count still.

There's no 'false readings' here. It may break $850M and continue on. But the weekday dips point to just below $850M, unless Disney keeps those theaters dedicated.

I gave you the actual numbers, and a direct comparison between Guardians at Week 6, and Ragnarok at Week 6, and where Guardians finished.

=============================

DOMESTIC MARKET

=============================

Guardians 2 on Week 6 Made:

$9,751,843

Went on for 14 more weeks to pull in another 19.9 Million

Ragnarok on Week 6 Made:

8,529,056

If Ragnarok went on another 14 weeks, following the same ratio, it would pull in another 17.4 Million

=============================

FOREIGN MARKET

=============================

Guardians made $12 million foreign from weeks 7-20.

Ragnarok if it continued its ratio of current foreign earnings relative to Guardians would make $13.95 million

===================================

Summary

===================================

You can discuss why it wont maintain those ratios (which I did), but the numbers are the numbers.

Guardians made $32 Million dollars over weeks 7 through 20.

If Ragnarok were to last another 14 weeks (running until March lol, not likely), it would only have to make 20% of what Guardians did, to make the $6.3 needed to hit $850.  If it makes Half of what guardians did, it will hit $860.

Follow up/Update,

Week 7-20 Guardians made $12 million foreign,

using the current ratio, Ragnarok at the same rate would earn $13.95 in the same time period

So if Ragnarok perfectly tracked Guardians from here on out it would pull in over the next 14 weeks:

Domestic: $17.4 Million

Foreign: $13.95 Million

Total Remaining on a perfect track to Guardians and current ratios:  $31.35 Million

For a Final Total: $874 Million

So I would say MAXIMUM final total is $875 and likely total will be around $860.

2 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

Like other movies that had a period of a few weeks with limited competition, Ragnarok is now experiencing a slowdown due to multiple new movies. It is now questionable if it will reach $850M.

Strongly disagree about $850, using actual numbers:

Week 6:

Guardians made 9.7 million Domestic

Ragnarok making 8.5 Million Domestic.

Remaining Income to end of run

Guardians ran for another 14 weeks collecting a total of  19.9 Million

Ragnarok maintaining the same rate of decline would make 17.4 Million over the next 14 weeks

That would bring its total to over $860 Million, without even counting foreign income, the place where it is out pacing Guardians. 

All things equal Ragnarok SHOULD end slightly higher than Guardians and make a run at $870 Million.

As we all know, Ragnarok is facing stronger competition from bigger movies (ie Star Wars), which could and should decrease its income stream faster than Guardians.

However, more people go to see movies during the Holidays than in early fall, so the available audience is bigger.

But, with the other big movies out, it probably wont stay in theatres as long.

Actual Numbers based analysis:

Ragnarok's final total will be about whether larger holidays audience can make up for stiffer competition, and how quickly its pulled out of theatres.

It should be at $850 by Christmas, and virtually no scenario sees it struggling to get to $850 as a final total.

It's high side estimate would be around $870, and its low $860ish.

It has an outside shot at passing Guardians still.

23 hours ago, mattn792 said:

Also, I'd vote Hugh Laurie over Daniel Craig for Mr. Sinister.

They can both act, which is all that really matters, so either way I wouldnt mind

Regardless of accent, Channing is a.) too big/buff, b.) a terrible actor.

23 hours ago, mattn792 said:

The biggest problem with Channing Tatum might be that, at the current pace, he'll be 60 years old by the time they start filming.

Logan had Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart...

Deadpool is a role where Ryan Reynolds terribleness suits the character, tone and story.

Channing Tatum will ruin Gambit, and the longer it takes to start filming the better.  Channing Tatum as Gambit is a DC level, Affleck as Batman, Will Smith as anyone, casting type disaster.

Hopefully withe the Disney takeover they can end this monstrosity before it starts, and find the next Hugh Jackman type actor, and cast Gambit with someone of talent worthy to play him.