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Thanks to everyone who's added input and ideas to the discussion... I`m finalizing the list over the course of the weekend, as my Market Report has to be in to the folks at Overstreet by Monday. As always, I'm blown away by the knowledge of the folks on these boards, and will acknowledge the group's efforts in the report. To pare this down to a final list of 50, I obviously have to exercise a lit bit of "editorial oversight" so apologies in advance if it doesn't match your personal choices 100%, but the list will definitely change based on your input! Until next year...

I don't think the IDW series will have much impact, but if Paramount's whole "Hasbro-verse" plans get off the ground, a movie could drive more interest.

There was some discussion of X-Men 248 last year, and it's definitely borderline... and if ASM 301 is off, are others heating up, like ASM 315/316 or 344?

Is it time to add Omega Men #3? This book was on the list a couple of years ago, IIRC, but got bumped as X-Factor books and Apocalypse appearances started to heat up... I think you're right, though, that this has started to pick back up this year.

Yes, thanks - a typo, as we'd hashed out dates in previous years. Thanks for catching it!

Hi everyone - It's that time of year again, when I have to start to put together my annual Market Report for the Overstreet Comic Price Guide (OSPG). Some of you may recall that for the past few years, I've been "crowdsourcing" a list of the Top 50 Copper Age keys to include in the report (and crediting the Board for the collective insight). The list is (more or less) a 1982-1992 list, and generally doesn't worry about variants, errors or similar rarities... Think more "Incredible Hulk #181" and less "Star Wars #1 35 cent variant", to use a bronze age example. To start with, here's the list as it appeared in last year's OSPG (page 112, for those that want to check if this is legit!): • Albedo #2 • Amazing Spider-Man #238, #252, #298, #300, #301, #361 • Archie’s Girls Betty and Veronica #320 • Batman #357, #404, #428 • Batman: The Dark Knight Returns #1 • Batman: The Killing Joke • Bone #1 • Caliber Presents #1 • Comico Primer #2 • Crisis on Infinite Earths #1 • The Crow #1 • Daredevil #181 • DC Comics Presents #47 • Evil Ernie #1 • G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1 • Harbinger #1 • Incredible Hulk #271, #340 • Iron Man #282 • Legends #3 • Marvel Graphic Novel #4 • Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #8 • Miracleman #15 • New Mutants #87, #98 • Sandman #1, #8 • Spectacular Spider-Man #64 • Suicide Squad #1 • Superman #75 • Swamp Thing #21, #37 • Starslayer #2 • Tales of the New Teen Titans #44 • Thor #337 • Transformers #1 • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 • Uncanny X-men #221, #248, #266 • Warrior (UK Magazine) #1 • Watchmen #1 • Wolverine (limited series) #1 • X-Factor #6, #24 There's last year's list... what changes should be made to update it, based on how 2016 has played out? What books should be added? What books should be dropped? As always, I exercise a bit of editorial control at the end of the process, but I try as much as possible to reflect the community's collective thoughts on these books! Thanks in advance for all your ideas and contributions...

I only recall a Cerebus back up story that was published in Nucleus (?) about before issue #3 so you must have some top secret info? Cerebus 161 has a Bone preview... not SUPER widely known, but definitely not top secret info. I lik this book, and have a couple tucked away, but it never seems to catch on with Bone collectors. By issue 161, my recollection is that Cerebus was past its sales peak, but I'd be willing to bet that the issue is more plentiful than Bone 1.

I've been pleasantly surprised by Vertigo in general lately... Sheriff of Babylon, Unfollow and Clean Room have all been great.

Here's how I read it: OP: It's not a Canadian variant. Boardie: If it's a Canadian variant, it's worth $57 instead of $11. OP: it's a Canadian variant.

This site might be a good starting point for your research: http://dellcomicfan.blogspot.ca/2011/12/in-late1950s-dell-published-several.html

My favourite spot to bin dive... sometimes a treasure trove of scarce Harley Quinn, early Cheryl Blossom, and elusive Whitman variants.

I picked up a 9.8 copy of his painted cover to Black Panther #2 the other day... His "outrage" material has been attracting attention, but the range of his work - from hatchwork to painting - is increasingly impressive. I think his star is still rising...

Nice find!

The Dire Wraiths as a name pre-date Marvel, having been referenced (for example) in the original ROM TV ads (see YouTube). I suspect that Marvel's claim will revolve around the idea that the Dire Wraiths as depicted in the new IDW/Hasbro efforts are too derivative of the independent IP and backstory developed by Marvel.

These are U.S. Editions... "Parkes Run" was apparently a publisher/packager of colouring books in the 1980s. There are a number of Marvel Treasuries with their name on it... I assume these are like the Whitman books, printed at the same time as the standard editions, and not reprints per se. Having said that, the Parkes Run Empire treasury that I have seen elsewhere has a cover price, so yours is somewhat unusual, and I suppose it could have been printed for the international market. You can see some other Parkes Run editions here, including an Empire edition: http://www.treasurycomics.com/gallery/galleryMARVELlicensed.htm

I agree with these, though Space 1999 may be a bit too obscure these days... I picked up four Charlie Chaplins in a collection last year, and I was surprised at how little they were going for. Forgotten platinum characters like Mutt & Jeff or Moon Mullins going for nothing I can understand, but Chaplin seems different...

I like Gosh Comics... There's a small-ish back issue selection (maybe 20 boxes) in the basement, but the main level is chock full of quirky stuff that you just won't find in North American shops.

South American edition...

No, I would put early issues of Jumbo Comics from 1938 as the first. However, I think the books we're talking about here really grow out of the Golden Picture Story Book series from 1961... There were four issues (Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, Disney's Babes in Toyland, and Disney's Ducks), and the format is virtually identical to the later DC treasuries (i.e. Saddle-stitched rather than sqaurebound, and card stock covers with colour newsprint interiors). Being earlier, they only had a cover price of 50 cents. These are gorgeous books, and very tough in higher grades. Thanks for the very informative post. They weren't, however, the first of the Bronze Age treasuries. Good call! Even on the Bronze side, though, Rudolph may not be first... Western published a number of treasuries in the late 1960s and early 1970s (e.g. King Kong in 1968). Some of these (like the later edition of The Jungle Book treasury) are difficult to date, so it's hard to say if they come before or after Rudolph. But if Rudolph came out from DC for Christmas 1972, it seems likely that the Giant Comic Album series (9 issues published by King Features in 1972) predates it. I will say that the Rudolph is one of my favourites! I also like the Archie Christmas treasury from 1975, another tough book!

No, I would put early issues of Jumbo Comics from 1938 as the first. However, I think the books we're talking about here really grow out of the Golden Picture Story Book series from 1961... There were four issues (Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, Disney's Babes in Toyland, and Disney's Ducks), and the format is virtually identical to the later DC treasuries (i.e. Saddle-stitched rather than sqaurebound, and card stock covers with colour newsprint interiors). Being earlier, they only had a cover price of 50 cents. These are gorgeous books, and very tough in higher grades.

There's a UK version of this too, larger than the Marvel weeklies, but smaller than the US treasuries... It's not a Whitman, though... A UK publisher whose name escapes me at the moment.

This one isn't a Whitman, but comes from Modern Comics. I've always understood that these are the same folks who published Charlton reprints with a blue and white Modern logo, and sold them in packs.

Great book, quite rare. It is previewed in Guerilla Groundhogs 2 also. Thanks for the tip... I snagged one of these (GG#2) from a 10 cent box this week!

Alpha Flight #33 probably won't be far behind it. This one too . . . That would be the first Alpha Flight book ever worth more than a quarter. theres 1st Lady Deathstrike 1st Jim Lee Gay Northstar First(ish)/early Big Hero 6

I haven't been able to find one anywhere, and I've been looking. I've found sites that make claims about specific issues, but never with much evidence. In my own experience, I'd rank the top 5 (hardest to easiest) as: 1. DC Comics Presents #22 2. Sgt. Rock #329 3. Warlord #22 4. Justice League of America #179 5. Action Comics #508 That's purely anecdotal, though. And having said that, I have all 5, so I may be biased. I also think many are more common, but still very difficult in high grade. For example, I have a Superboy #1 that CGC gave a 9.2, and that must have been on a very lenient day - but it currently tops the census. I would actually be interested in working with some folks on a project to try to figure this out... Maybe some combination of census count, GPA values and an index of ebay listings over time? Plus a few e-mails with guys like Doug Sulipa?