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Is this the Hp8300 everybody mentions on here? The scan surface doesn't seem big enough to fit a Cgc slab, I'm I wrong?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-ScanJet-8300-A4-Professional-Flatbed-Colour-Image-Scanner-FCLSD-0503-/322058551441?hash=item4afc2f8091:g:dcUAAOSwzvlW9RqU

Yes that's it. The pictures are a bit deceiving. It's huge.

Anyone use an HP Envy 7640 series? Seems to work fine for raw books however scanning slabs always comes out a bit blurry.

 

If anyone has any tips on settings or ways to improve the scan on slabs with this one would be appreciated.

 

Thanks!

This happens because most scanners use a CIS sensor and will only scan anything pressed right up on the glass. A CIS sensor lacks the depth of field required to scan a comic inside a slab which is lifted a bit from the glass when placed in the scanner.

The best scanners to use for scanning slabs are any scanner with a CCD sensor which is capable of scanning items that not only press against the glass but also slightly off the glass as well.

I found a really good article that discusses the differences here:

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjan13/dw-scanner-type.html

jaydog,

 

Variants are included in the print run.

but, Diamond does not break down the variant totals.

 

See here how in...

 

February 2014 numbers for Batwoman #28 - 20,672

March 2014 numbers for Batwoman #29 - 19,750

April 2014 numbers for Batwoman #30 - 19,204

May 2014 numbers for Batwoman #31 - 18,463

 

In June of 2014, thanks to the success of the 'Bombshells Variants', the first and still the biggest of their 'theme' variants, the numbers for DC's Batwoman #32 jumped to 33,538, because VARIANTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRINT RUN.

I personally sold 60 sets of it between the forum and eBay. Huge success.

 

The next month...

 

July 2014 numbers for Batwoman #33 - 23,922

 

The whole point of the variant 'theme' is to add to the print run of some of these dud books that aren't doing as well.

Here you can clearly see it.

 

To add to this, my Diamond rep specifically stated: "Diamond doesn't not break out individual variant numbers, but those variants are included in the print run. Anyone can call Diamond Distribution and talk to someone who can confirm this."

 

Plain and simple.

 

 

 

 

Great info. Thanks.

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

So this is the crux of the discussion, then. Is the 254K regular covers only, or is it all copies shipped through Diamond?

 

If it's regular covers only, I suspect Jay's number is near correct, and indeed international numbers and small store orders are a wash.

 

If it's all covers, there's a huge chunk of books in the 254K that don't qualify for the 1:100s, and carcrawford's number is likely close.

 

It is the regular covers only. Diamond *does not* report print runs for variants.

 

I refer you back to recalledcomics.com which features multiple books with ballparked print run numbers that are premised on the regular cover orders for several dealer incentive variants (EoSV #2 being one of them as well now).

 

-J.

 

You, sir....are insane. I gave you links that explain it, Larry (a rather large retailer who actually produces store retailers), and other boardies have told you these numbers are included in the Comichron numbers. Your only argument is based on a random website that just divides the print run by the odds on the variant. That is some serious science involved in that. No one said anything about Diamond disclosing print runs for variants and I have no idea why that is one of your talking points. We are trying to tell you that the 20-25 retailers who ordered store exclusives/phantom variants/ghost variants/etc. are INCLUDED in the print run for that book in the month. These are accounts that are serviced by and produced by Diamond and ship to the retailers from Diamond. I am done talking about this because it is like talking to a brick wall. I would hope that you would do some more research and stop spreading misinformation.

 

 

And again, you are still wrong.

 

NO variant print runs are disclosed by diamond. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None. Nothing.

 

That being the case, there is NO WAY for the print runs of the variants to be included in the comichron total. What you are seeing is the regular cover ONLY. Nothing you have linked to states otherwise and the reason you are unable to provide any applicable links is because you are wrong. First you tried to tell people this thing only had 500 copies. Now you're saying 1250. Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about, so maybe you should stop talking.

 

And It does not matter what "kind" of variant it is, or who ordered it.

 

THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

 

For you to say otherwise is an outright lie. I'm sure you're just trying to make a buck, but I would suggest you try doing so without attempting to deceive the participants on these boards.

 

And yes, recalledcomics.com is a well respected site. I'm sorry if ALL of the information on there disagrees with everything you are trying to say here as well, but it is what it is.

 

*I apologize to the other readers of this post if I seem rather inflamed. But this guy really needs to just quit. His motives are just too transparent.

 

-J.

Wait... so you're telling me I can't read? That on the Cominchron Feb 2015 figs page it doesn't say "Items marked with daggers [†] include orders of more than 350,000 copies from Loot Crate." I'm pretty sure that means that the number includes the number of loot crate variants printed.

YES

retail exclusives, skottie youngs, incentives ALL count towards Comichrons number...

 

ONLY regular covers count towards incentives

 

No, you are incorrect here. Diamond does not report print runs for variants.

 

-J.

http://comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-02.html

doesn't the little dagger explain that Orphan Black includes 350k Loot Crates?

This is headed to the framers, but none the less a black cat. Artist: Bill Dinh

Wow!

Roadtesting .... My custom-built slabbed comics drawers/shelves

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wow!

I only collect the walking dead comics and I want to put them in Standard Mylite2s bags and FullBacks boards.

 

Do you think this combination will be to tight for the comics?

725 Standard Mylite2s

700 Standard Fullback Boards

 

If you do collect the walking dead and you use 725 and 700FB can you scan a photo or take a photo of it? I have been worrying so much about this because they are a lot of money and I don't want to buy the wrong ones.

Check out the very first post in this thread. It has a really good write up with pictures.

Looks like this could be a good starting point for finding some info: http://www.volstor.com/

The site looks a bit outdate, but the retailer page has some contact info that's worth trying.

BCW has a similar product: http://www.bcwsupplies.com/cat/comic-supplies/comic-accessory/comic-book-stor-folio-1-5-inch

These are great for travel. I own a few of these to carry books around when I go to cons.

I did buy an HP 8300 and it seems to be doing fine. The only problem is, it's hard locating the scans, I don't seem to be able to tell it what to call them each time, as I can my canon.

 

Thanks for all the help!

 

Not sure what OS you're on, but on my Win 7 machine; it saves them to:

 

Pictures > My Scans >

 

.. then the software appends it by adding 'Scan' to the picture, with a number.

In Win 7 if you're scanning and saving as tiff files, it's creating a multipage tiff file. Took me a while to figure this out because it seemed like only my first scan was showing up in the "My Scans" folder.

Thanks to Kevlar. Just got 4 Guardian of the Galaxy - Paolo Rivera variants in from Wizard World Sac. These 3 came back lone top census:

i confirmed with HP that all current "all-in-ones" use the CIS technology.

 

They said that all of the stand alone Scanners use the CCD technology.

 

just checked ebay and no new 8300's are available. only used and the few ranged from 140-200

 

I saw new ones else where for closer to 400

 

Also the 8300 seemed very slow. from specs only 2.5 pages per minute

 

Yeah you're not going to find a new one. The HP ScanJet 8300 was released in 2009. I think its MSRP was close to $600.

The specs show if you use it with and ADF it scans 25ppm

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/il/en/sm/WF06b/15179-15179-64195-3445111-3445111-1118287-1118289.html?dnr=2

When I first got my scanner, I scanned 60 slabs in about 40 min at 300dpi. If you could auto feed slabs I'm sure I'd be faster.

You should be able to find a used one for about $80 shipped, with a major part of the cost going to shipping. The thing is huge!

Modern slow track batch #2:

 

Received on 3/6/14

Currently waiting to be verified...... a month later

 

 

That's a little disturbing, have you called them about it?

Looks like something may have held them up leading up to and around WWSac. Mine were waiting to be verified for a few weeks.

3/9 - Submitted at WWSAC

3/12 - Marked as Received

4/2 - Marked as verified

Has anyone tried the HP officejet Pro 8600 ?

 

it is a legal size flatbed with a speed of 16ppm for color.

 

I am looking to get one of those in the next few days

There's some great advice a few pages back:

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7409247#Post7409247

Looks like that's a newer all-in-one. It will probably not be great for scanning slabs, but will probably do the trick for raws.

If you submit even a few times a year a personal FedEx account is free to sign up for and very easy to use.

Oh great tip! Just checked it out. Definitely makes sense. Thanks.

Do you have scans of the interiors.

If you're curious enough, spend the $5 on the notes.

How long does it generally take to ship by USPS from CGC? Is there a way of finding a tracking number?

You should get an email with a tracking number. For me, the email has usually shown up the day after my order is marked shipped. I think on average, it's taken my packages about 5 days, give or take a day.

I submitted 90 moderns slow track for prescreen. received 2/6, verified 2/7. This is my first time submitting a prescreen. Does it usually take longer than normal?

 

1.5 x regular time on avg

 

Sounds good i'll see how long it actually takes.

For me they have been quicker than usual, but Con season is about in to full swing. Plus i like the fact they don't charge you till the books are shipped.

 

Is this specific for dealers or something? They charge me when they receive the books, not when they ship them back. Or did I miss something?

 

This isn't true. CGC bills the moment the books are received in the system.

So what's the point of prescreen if they charge up for all the books? Or do they refund for ungraded books once they ship them?

I find with the glare I apply just a bit of pressure to flex the case a tad it takes out most of the glare. I got flamed hard by guys saying you could break the glass and mess up the head which you can. I am talking real gentle.

 

I am thinking of making a slight templates to add just a little more pressure maybe some memory foam velcroed to the lid

I'm telling you -- flip the book. The light generally refracts differently with different bends in the case and oftentimes the glare is eliminated. That and scan in total darkness with the lid open.

 

I'll test it out. (thumbs u I do scan with the lid open I have tried it all sort of light conditions even tried using a black cloth over the scanner

You said you were scanning at 300pixels/in, maybe try a lower resolution. I know my first scans were at that resolution and I didn't like how much detail it was picking up. I just don't remember if there was more glare at that resolution. I still get slight glare, but it seems to stay off the comic and only on the plastic edges of the slab, which is fine by me.

I'm really curious what could be causing it. Might point me in a good direction to get better scans from the thicker slabs.

Then I guess we may have the same thing I just don't see a color scale as I slide the sliders

I actually don't see them either. Didn't even know they existed. I see the adjust at the top right, but if that only comes on after scanning, I've never noticed since i do all my adjustments outside the scan app.

The only settings i'm using is a custom scan profile. With the following settings:

Capture tab:

Mode: Color

Resolution: 200 pixels/inch

Regions: straighten checked

Adjust tab:

Color: Boost colors checked

Exposure: Adjust exposure checked, Adjust black/white threshold checked

Noise: Sharpen checked

Enhance tab:

nothing checked.

I do vary minimal adjustments after the scans. Usually only cropping with the occasional adjustments to blacks and color saturation.

Oh and i always scan with the lid open. I prefer the black background over the white background

Here are a few examples

A few things to note on some of the scans the glass was dirty, because I didn't really bother cleaning the glass and wiping down the slabs between scans. It's not really noticeable in the small sizes that I use so i didn't bother. Also, the thicker slabs are harder to get the glare off of, as you can see on the Infinity #1.

Kevin do you have advanced HP Software? Because I bought my scanner used and I only have whatever came with it. Can you suggest a HP download if there is one?

 

I know what you are saying in terms of color adjustments but I can't find anywhere to fine tune individual colors.

 

 

Your scan looks closer to my top scan with the saturation turned all the way up. But I can see in yours that the black is toned down a bit

I got my scanner off of ebay. It didn't come with any of the software at all. I had to download it from the HP site. I have a mac so the installation required a few more steps to get it to work with the current OS but all the other downloads seemed pretty straight forward.

Hi all,

 

Been following this thread for a while. It seems like most of the suggestions are around getting second-hand scanners. I haven't tried these models but I'm glad they are working out for folks. What I'd like to know is if anyone has ideas "if money were no object" - i.e. professional imaging equipment, high-end scanners etc.

 

Took a slab to an imaging studio in Manhattan and they wanted to charge me $30 an image - did not do this but I wondered if anyone knows what type of machines they would likely be using?

 

I've been taking mine to Staples to have them scanned and they come out fairly good. One Staples in my area just got a new machine (Xerox) and they are coming out even better.

 

Again, curious about more expensive solutions just out of curiosity - what does CGC use, does anyone know?

If money weren't an object i'd still get an HP 8300. When it came out a few years back it was a $500 MSRP scanner. Now you probably pay more for shipping than the scanner itself. I scanned a negative with it as well and the result was f-ing amazing in my opinion. I'll post some sample scans and settings in a bit.

I bought an HP ScanJet 8250 online today. I'm hoping for good things. This thread steered me in that direction. I guess I'll find out if it was a wise investment in a few days.

I got one a while back. Great investment. I was able to scan close to 60 slabs in a little over an hour with very minimal post editing needed on the images.

My copy of Photoshop 5.0.2 is also not compatible with my new OS. And like the scanner, I have searched the web for upgrades for this version and they do not work as well. I created my Avatar using U-Lead PhotoImpact 7 and an image I downloaded from the net, but I can do better work with Photoshop.

 

I am probably going to answer my own question here, but I was just curious with the feedback.

 

Answer is: Buy an HP Scanjet 8250 so you can create cool scans again, and spend a lot of money on a newer version of Photoshop so you can play again.

 

Thanks in advance.

If all you're doing is photo editing and not necessarily photo manipulation or image creation, take a look at Adobe Lightroom. It's what I use to make minor adjustments to my scans. You should be able to download a 30 day trial form Adobe to give it a try. It is definitely a much cheaper way to go than Photoshop and it's also a great way to organize images.

My current workflow is:

1. Scan using the HP scanner software at 200dpi and scan the full image without cropping (I could crop via the HP software but i'd rather handle that elsewhere).

2. Save as a tiff file to a specific folder.

3. In Lightroom have it monitor and automatically add the images from the specific folder.

4. Make minor adjustments and cropping in Lightroom.

5. Export at whatever size I need the files to be depending on how i'm going to use it.

The best part about using Lightroom is the fact that it's non-destructive. It won't make any of the changes directly to the file itself. This way if later i want to make a different change to the file, I won't have to rescan.

9 book modern sub (Non-FT)

Dropped off at LBCC 11/24

Received 11/27

 

 

Verified: 12/5

 

Graded: 1/2/14

 

(didn't notice when they were marked "Scheduled for Grading")

 

Grading/Quality Control: 1/7/14

 

Shipped/Safe: 1/8/14

 

Forgot to follow up last week when I got my books.

In hand: 1/15/14

I'm going to convert my garage this year into comic storage. The garage is attached to the house on two sides but I am going to insulate the walls. Temperatures up here can get down to 30 but I'm not too concerned about the cold. Keeping moisture out is more important I think.

 

I converted my garage into my Man Cave. Put up a false wall to block to door (so it looks like a garage from the outside) and a false floor - it works rather well (thumbs u

 

Nice. Have you posted any pics up yet?

yeah, picture or it didn't happen.