Crowzilla

I don't see how, at this point you can break apart the pages and expect to get that much without factoring in the cover.

I was surprised to see the brittle Sensation #1 sell for 50% more than the slightly higher grade Wonder Woman #1.

Remember the good 'ole days of a week ago when this was just a $60K comic?

Yes, Kramer bought it from Roter.

My understanding is that all three printings of Superman #1 were done within a month. We have no idea when the 2nd print was ordered. The only thing we know for sure is that the "On Sale June 2nd" is not a 3rd print, and that "On Sale Now" is not a 1st print. We have no idea which text the 2nd print contained. That information was not in the publisher's files. (and you are still making mistakes on the info. The first print was 500,000 copies, the 2nd was 250,000 and the 3rd was 150,000 - for a total of 900,000 copies)

How do you know the 2nd print says "On Sale Now" and that it's not just the 3rd print that says "On Sale Now"?

I think you are just seeing different light levels, the same defects are there now that were originally. It's an insanely beautiful copy that has rusted staples. I believe it presents better than both 9.0 copies, but certainly better than the first one at least.

From the scans I like the 8.5 better, I think it has much nicer eye appeal. Shame about the staples.

I guess that December 2017 date is when it got reholdered to note the pages had improved to White from OW/W, but somehow kept the same serial number in the new holder.

First time I have heard this in reference to "Off-White to White" pages. If OW/W is in danger, almost all our books are at risk

No, It's not "Very High", it's solid, but not very high. We just had a Bat 1 sell for $2.2 Million. A 7.0 Tec 27 just sold for triple it's 2010 price. This copy of Action #1 has a very strong chance to be the most expensive book we see sold in our lifetimes (at least long-time collectors like you and me). The owner of the 9.0 copies has very little desire (and certainly no need) to ever sell his copies, and the Church (and Allentown Tec 27) will most likely not come to market. The 9.2 Tec 27 is the only other candidate and there is no sign that it will enter the market anytime soon. The $3 million sale happened seven years ago, that is a lifetime in this market. Every major key has doubled (at least) in that time, with many going up 50% or more in the past three months alone. I thought it was low when it sold three years ago (that seller held it for eight years for a 33% return before fees), and honestly expected it should be about double the previous price.

I will lay odds. This book has been sold by Metro/CC three times now, if it could have a higher grade, it already would.

I know this is a record and all, but isn't this sale kind of low? A decade later and the 2nd highest graded Action 1 only doubles in value? Didn't we just see that a 7.0 Tec 27 tripled in value in that time period, and HG Bat 1s have at least gone up 5x in the last decade, as has Superman #1. And does anyone doubt that the 9.0 Marvel #1 pay copy would sell for more than double its $227K price from 2010? Sad to think that the #1 book in the hobby would give you the worst return out of all the mega-keys in the last decade.

That's because no one can find it on their website. Wouldn't copies of Star Spangled fetching condition guide be the equivalent of double guide for most other titles? You forgot to add you love this hobby!

FF#1 easy choice for me

It should be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Daredevil #7 cover were to bring more now.

As they should be.

I didn't even know the Shield was getting a movie. And there were several American superheros before the Shield. Unless you meant 1st patriotic superhero.

I think that has just doubled also. A copy in 9.6 just sold for $3200 when previous high was $2000. In fact, an 8.5 just sold for $1400 this past week, which is higher than any 9.4 has ever sold for and about the avg price of a 9.6 for 2020

Looking at the picture of the 9.8, and it certainly appears that gorgeous 9.6 at HA last month is clearly better. Won't be surprised one bit if there is a third 9.8 on the census soon.

Bitcoin could lose half it's value or more and these kids would be fine, and the ones I know at least are still working their jobs so not sure a downturn will dissuade them other than as another buying opportunity. We are wrong to blanket characterize them as not being "real collectors" (whatever that means). Who cares if they don't know and don't ever care to buy Centaurs. They grew up reading/watching X-men, Turtles, Batman, etc. and that is what they are going after. One of my friends just paid what to me is stupid money for a 9.8 GS X-men 1 (not the $69K stupid, but 3 weeks ago stupid). He has no interest in selling, because it's a book he's always wanted and now he has it. If the bottom falls out later this year or next, I imagine he will be happy that it will be cheaper for him to add a 9.8 Hulk 181 (or whatever) to his collection. I can't say that he's wrong - especially as regard to Centaurs. Look at the flagship book for Centaur, the Church A-Man #5. when Heritage sold it in 2002, the description stated "Seasoned collectors will recognize this copy as definite Blue Chip material", and it sold for more than $63K (3x guide+). The buyer held it for more than a decade, guided nearly doubled in that time and yet when he sold it in 2014 it only brought $56K. Hardly what I'd call blue chip for a 12 year investment. Has anyone ever lost money holding a high grade GS1 or IH 181 for 12 years? People here made a lot of fun of the buyer of the TMNT #1 for $90K when another copy later sold the same year for $52K, but I don't think we are going to see a 9.8 copy under six figures again. Great deal for the $52K buyer, but I don't think the first guy was necessarily wrong.

All this ^. We've been raise to believe that rising SA makes GA look cheap, then when GA rises it circles back to SA, but the new reality is that there is a total disconnect and the markets no longer have anything to do with each other. I work with some younger attorneys who are starting to hit prime earning years (mid 30s+) that collect and these are the guys that think nothing of spending $10K on a Star Wars comic (no, not a 35¢ price variant, the 1st appearance of Ahsoka variant) and think that a first Miles Morales variant for $15K is a bargain they need to snap up today. They would buy SA, but there are literally only a handful of GA books they would even consider buying, and aside from a "27" none of those books has a number other than "1" on them. Superman 2? or even 14 or 17? nope. Action 7, or 10? no thanks. Why buy a nice late number Cap or Marvel Mystery for $2500 when you can get an Eternals #1 for the same price. She-Hulk #1 has doubled in the last six months, what has GA done? And for another out of whack example, THE key 80s book. 3 weeks ago it was less than $20K, for a 9.6, now this copy is sitting at $50K . The 9.8 buyers are looking extra smart right now. Turtles #1

Well yes, and no. She got an equal value - according to the Overstreet Guide. So it would go something like this: Bob: I like Batman, so I'll keep these VF copies of Detective 35-37, that's about $5,000 in guide, and you can have this super-rare high demand Green Giant #1. It's $5,300 in guide but we will call it even as I just want to be fair. Martha: Okay Bob: I added up the Guide values for the run of Captain America and Captain Marvel, and they are almost even, so I'll keep the Captain America and you can have the Captain Marvels, they are in great shape. Then to make sure you get a nice Timely run, you can have this set of Young Allies, and I'll keep something junkie like these Mysterymen comics. Martha: Sounds fair.

If it was really a book of value then it definitely went to Geppi. Martha really got a raw deal for the small number of books that were assigned to her (things like Green Giant #1 and other mainly esoteric books) and most all were listed in the pages of CBM. Hopefully, she got a much more equitable share of cash from the sale to Geppi. Looking at the brochure though makes me remember all the Church copies though that Bob had and traded for nice "unrestored" copies and cash (things like the Adventure 40 & 48, and All Star #3). More like how bad he wanted his best friend's wife in his life.

Yes, and so it follows that his 14th appearance is even better. But if for some reason it doesn't, 1st Joker and 1st Catwoman easily trump 1st Sub-mariner rip-off and 1st Arrow rip-off. (Heck, I think the 3rd rate rip-off Hawkeye series will be much bigger than Green Arrow's TV show, you should start hording Tales of Suspense 57s.) The Joker film is the highest grossing R-rated film of all-time by a long shot. But even if you were to discount the film (and the countless video game appearances which is really where the fan base if building now), Joker appearances in the comics garner much more attention than Aquaman or Green Arrow - neither of which can sustain runs of comics for any length of time. Not to mention the merchandising. No one gets excited that a new Green Arrow figure is released, yet Joker figures are sellouts whether they be $10 toys or multi-thousand dollar statues. Enough to satisfy the demand of the number of people willing and able to pay for them. But, hey, Heritage has a 7.5 in the next auction - tied for 7th highest graded copy and they are heavily promoting it with ads and a video. And while I won't predict it to sell for anywhere near what the 7th highest graded copy of Batman #1 will, I think it would be impressive if it could reach what the 27th highest graded copy would sell for.