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Anything subby related is going nuts lately. Plus it's a battle issue. Plus it's always been a bit tougher in grade than surrounding issues. Plus it's a great cover. Lots more going for that book than Alf #1!

Hence my Jack Kirby reference. He changed Batman into the darker Batman we now know which was ground breaking and drew some of the biggest characters of the SA. He did so much.

Literally a giant among those sitting around him in Artist's Alley just sitting alone, convention after convention.

Just those two alone would have been quite the achievement but he was so much more than that. He was in some ways one of the main architects of the Silver Age. Carmine just didn't have Stan Lee pumping him the way Lee did to his own creators at Marvel!

Well, it means that either higher graded PLOD's tends to have a heavier percentage hit on them as opposed to the lower graded PLOD's, or it might also mean that Bats is in more demand than Supes, even when Restored and especially when it's starting from a lower pricing baseline, or some combination of both. As always, it depends on the amount of resto, the type of resto, the type of book, the price point of the book. It can be any number of factors. There is no exactly percentage you can estimate. As a rough rule of thumb the less resto, the greater the percentage of an unrestored copy it will be value at.

Is that a 9.8 with shadows on the back cover? There's no way.

If you're going to kiss me you better shave first.

Because the last 2 I sold in 9.8 went for about $1000 each?

I don't know how many times you've been told, a Swimsuit Competition requires you wear a swimsuit, and your "Skinny Dippin" outfit doesn't count. Either way, I'm in!

It's often impossible to judge accurately from scans and pictures as digital images introduce lots of ghost effects that may or may not be on the books. I guess I'm curious which defects you're talking about. I just took a look at the book on Heritage and blew the scans up and it looked far too nice to just be a 9.8 but once you get into that territory you're probably splitting hairs that can't be done with just an online image.

What made it a 10 was that the graders could not find any defects on the book according to their grading standards. Razor sharp corners and edges, no spine ticks, no wear, no staple stress, well centered staples, etc.

It's a term coined on these forums that stands for 'Big Shot Dealer' or 'Big Swingin' D'

All the various methods on interaction plotted on a timeline would be an interesting first step. Then having people scour the interiors of various comics to see what sort of interaction was happening would be the next step. For example, I know that Whiz #21 was encouraging kids to reach out to each other but it would be interesting to see subsequent issues with the published letters of those kids and what they were saying. This would be a heck of a project.

Final Total was $22,426,901 with 100% sell thru...WOW I believe the previous record is 15 Million or a little above. Remember, this is one of the smaller auctions at 1224 Lots with previous actions probably averaging 1700-2000 items. however when Ha increased the Sign auctions from 4 to 6 the overall lots went down to around 1500, you will need to factor in the number of items available at the auction also. I think it is clear that the new World Record price is even more impressive considering the smaller number of items available .it is pretty safe to say the that it is 7M more than any other one before it. Hope that helps and will be interested to read your numbers crunch. So, what I was getting at (and maybe someone has these numbers recorded and easy to access) was what the average price for book might be for the last few auctions, including the last record breaking one. For example, this auction averaged $18,000 per lot. It would be interesting to compare previous auctions and see what they look like on a curve and compare them to what we've seen across the hobby in terms of growth.

Fandom started with DC. Julie Schwartz published fan mail in Flash/Mystery In Space and gave out addresses that allowed first fandom fans to connect with each other. This made possible the first Comic Cons and comic fanzines. In general, these fans were very supportive of bringing the superheros back, including lobbying for the inclusion of their favorites. The earliest roots of what was going to be fandom may have started even earlier than that. I remember when I had my Whiz run of #1-23 that on the inside cover of some early Whiz comics (I believe it was issue #21) before there was even a letters page, Fawcett was encouraging readers to mail in letters and facilitating readers getting in touch with each other. That would have been as early as 1941 I wish I could find a picture I took of the inside cover of that issue but I can't seem to locate it. If anyone has a Fawcett from that era or better yet a Whiz #21, you can see what I'm talking about. It's the earliest known example I can think of, of publishers allowing readers to congregate. I do miss those books. The #1 isn't in this group pic.

I was being sarcastic about how older generations may not chase what new generations chase. But this was a great post.

Wait, was there an old guard in the 1960's who had been collecting comics since the 30's and arguing why anyone would be excited about some silly new characters called Fantastic Four, Hulk and Spider-man?

$1Trillion dollars removed from crypto profits in the last month, trillions poured into the economy through stimulus money that some people didn't really need, 1.5 years of pent up energy, the economy reopening and people ready to spend. It's a perfect storm and it's like the roaring 20's all over again. BTW, personally I think the X-men #1 CGC 8.0 @ $147K is an outlier. The book looked extremely nice for the grade so it might be an upgrade candidate that BSDs would bid over just like it happened with the AF #14 copies of 2017 that were outliers at the time. The plateauing price of GSX #1 and other surrounding copies of X-men #1 not selling for new highs would also suggest it's not X-men mania causing the 8.0 price.

This thread delivers! The only thing missing is John @cd4ever

He wasn't commenting on the auction house. He was commenting on the bidder. Auction houses have no idea what bidders are doing with their money and why.

That's a better perspective for sure but make no mistake, the powers that be will try to get paid back any way they can within whatever the law allows and seizures are a very lucrative business.

https://news.bitcoin.com/fbi-seizes-800-beverly-hills-safety-deposit-boxes-with-86m-attorneys-claim-feds-raid-unconstitutional/

In the case of the Promise collection that sold on Heritage, I know the winning bidder of most of the bigger books and I don't think they're laundering money. But money laundering is definitely an issue in any market where big dollars change hands, not just comics. I posted a link in another forum but the FBI just did an $82MIL raid on safety deposit boxes in a private bank in LA. As I mentioned there, after all of the stimulus money they've printed over the years and especially the last year, look for all levels of government from parking tickets to the highest ends of the economy to look for weighs to recoup money to pay down the deficit and seizing and collecting illegal money will be at the top of the list. I've already noticed locally that they are handing out parking tickets and speeding tickets like crazy after almost 2 years of no revenue.

Yes. About a decade ago I made the argument that comics are transitioning into being 'artifacts' rather than comic books. And we've already had a precedent set with money laundering. Remember the Tadano corp. scandal? There were so many twists and turns in that story that you could make a Hollywood blockbuster out of the story. They attempted to launder $9MIL and then the comics were stolen AGAIN from the DA's office during the investigation! https://www.theverge.com/2015/7/22/8870089/texas-comic-book-heist-anthony-chiofalo-tadano https://www.equipmentworld.com/business/article/14954313/tadano-america-comic-book-embezzler-named-one-of-top-10-costliest-frauds

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