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Question:

Anyone have any idea if the Enchantress will have a role in this movie?

I bought a solid copy of JIM 103 a few months ago, which is in one of my two "to be slabbed short boxes".

I'm kinda anxious to get some info on this book as I think the book will grade out as an 8.0.

I really miss the 4x standard coupons. In fact, I may not renew my membership and just start submitting through the "partner" sites instead. I don't check my grades online anymore, preferring to be surprised when I open the box so I don't see a ton of benefit in the membership anymore.

I def prefer coupons for 4 standard subs over $150 in credit but one can hardly blame CGC for their new policy.They were basically giving away $90 in service with the 4 coupons.

Partner sites do charge a fee for subbing through them so the $150 in credit reimbursement for membership does save money, if you sub a decent chunk of books to CGC.

I also greatly prefer cutting down the number of people who handle my books , to just myself and CGC employees.

Submission tracking is not all that important to me, in relation tothe above pounts. I see it largely as a fringe/complimentary benefit to membership.

Suicide Squad just has the additional misfortune of being the last one of its type to be released this year, and being (over) populated by characters that are largely unknown to the general movie going public.

 

Like Guardians of the Galaxy?

Nailed it.

I think the second trailer looks pretty good.

I am not expecting an artistic tour de force....this isn't The Hurt Locker or No Country For Old Men.

It's 90+ minutes of escapist entertainment and I think it looks as well done as this format allows.

Deadpool movie is basically upon us now and yet the book seems to finally have hit its plateau. I don't see this being a $1000 dollar book like many predicted.

Once the sequel is officially announced then it might get there.

I have a feeling that this movie is going to break the rules for books declining in value after the movie debuts. I think this book holds its ground. I got nothing to justify it except eventually some book has to hold sway.

Agreed.

I sold 2 mid grades copies via BIN....at $200 a pop, within a week of listing them.Both buyers lived in Belgium and paid about $30 for shipping.

Incidentally...I just lucked out with buying 3 copies on eBay...$39 each + shipping from Japan....

http://m.ebay.com/itm/252258826244

I did a double take when I saw that listing.

After checking the listing , I snapped up the 3 copies that were shown as available...here's to hoping the books arrive as described/pictured

I've received 9.8's with a date stamp on the front cover. Silver Age .

Yes, that makes perfect sense to me.

When would you start seeing potential for a markdown in grade?

9.8 NM/MT....as this grade verges on MINT....and a date stamp would be put on the book AFTER it left the PRINTER (printer=mint, IOW).....it may effect the grade.

But since NM/MT is a split grade, I could see a well placed date stamp not effecting the grade.

9.6 NM+.....no issue there, IMHO.

Yup.

Based on what I saw, I was 99% sure that JJ would get at least a 2nd season.

My scanner makes my slabs look like a pile of fuzzy .

I stumbled onto Genius Scan + , it works very well for slabs.

Genius Scan is a free app, Genius Scan + is $9 a month , I'd suggest paying the 9 bucks as it makes loading scans as quick n easy as could be.

Well, the mystery has been solved. I hung out with Kathryn Bollinger this past week, and bought some art. I showed her the book and she said she remembered it being a Bob Layton idea to have the golds be double covers with a gold on the outside/regular on the inside. Obviously it never gelled, but at least this one copy was produced. She said she couldn't remember if there was more than one, but she remembered it floating around the Valiant office for a while. (which also explains why the book isn't NM since it was handled by several people)

I'm excited to own it as it's a cool part of Valiant history.

 

I didn't think the book was a fake at all when I saw your original post earlier.

Anyway, that is a very interesting stor.Your book is as one of a kind as can be and is definitely a piece of Valiant history.

Cheers for sharing this story

You know, this place doesn't really seem to be a good fit for you, CAK.

Take it easy, guy.

Seriously, I was trying to inject some humor into this thread.....

In order to keep the ball rolling, as it has apparently fell flat.

This is the first time that I've seen this thread and it is completely ridiculous, from all conceivable angles.

First things first....there is a grown man out there who wants to send a platic toy out in the mail for other grown men to pose in a surreal/whacked out promotional travel piece.

Like if I went to see a travel agent and there was a 19 year old kid at the desk who offered me 20 bucks worth of GHB and a $5 crack vial, along with a catalog for a getaway bruise to the Bahamas.

Then, 90 pages later.....there are a couple of grown men ....apparently....argueing with one another of taking said action figure into their possesion.

A few pages earlier, more grown men are yammering about having to pay customs fees.

**************

I have a solution, ready to go, for all of you fruitcakes

Whoever has the figure....send him to me and I'll take him out on the town and snap some pics.

I will pay the cost of shipping the figure to my address.

I will also pay the cost of shipping Kraven to the next boardie who wants to play along.

After I take my new 'lil buddy on a few adventures and post up a dozen or so pics, someone else can pick up where I left off.

17 Economy FT Rc'd 11/17 still sitting at graded.

Made it to Quality Control today.

.....and shipped safe

Nice!!!

Your emoticon perfect sums up that feeling of seeing "Shipped/Safe".....along with the grades......after checking out your Submission Tracking.

I just got the grades on my last sub today, after handing them in NY Eternal Con last month:

"12/10/2015 Shipped/Safe"

A prime example of a book tanking big time is Swamp Thing # 37.The show was as sugar coated, mass market friendly as could be; the polar opposite of Hellblazer....IOW, the show sucked a bag of , on all fronts.Critically and ratings wise.

 

Try to get $600 for a CGC 9.8 ST # 37 now

 

It won't happen.

 

I Zombie has done well critically and ratings wise and has been renewed for a second season.

 

HOM Annual 1 and IZombie 1 CGC 9.8 are doing fairly well.

 

iZombie already had the mid-season finale of season 2 :shrug:

 

From a price trajectory point of view, there's no real difference between any of the books you mention - they all had a price surge & tons of speculation leading up to the premiere of the TV show, then an immediate decline when the show was actually on air. Doesn't seem to matter whether the show is actually good or not.

 

Heck, it's happening with Sandman #4 right now even though the Lucifer TV show by all accounts looks like it's going to be terrible.

 

The idea of citing examples and then taking a left turn to a predetermined conclusion seems to be the way of the boards lately.

There hasn't been any sale reported on a sandman 4 9.8 in GPA since mid Nov at $314.

Not sure but I believe the show's trailer popped around that time.

The trailer looks "Constantine-esque" or IOW, the show looks like it won't have any balls.

OTOH.....Preacher's trailer looks like the show will be as ballsy as can be, for a basic cable show.

IZombie doesn't need balls, per se, it is a campy piece of escapism, which is fine by me and I dig the show.

I tried listing a Lucifer #1 CGC 9.8 at $275 then dropped it to $250, no takers after a few weeks.Think I'll just put it back up at $225 and let it ride, if I can net $200....good enough for me.

And Junk, you're right about that, as well.

hah.

in fairnesss tho, The Strain (tv show) is completely awful.

 

Which begs the question, does the quality of the show significantly impact post hype speculation?

I think the Strain was/is actually a pretty good show.

Reviews on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic etc average out at around 7.5/10.

The ratings were good enough that it was renewed for a third season , which I am assuming will be the last season as that will wrap up the storyline with The Master.

WRT Junk's question, I would say:

Yes, quality signifigantly impacts post hype speculation, but to offer anything more than a transient uptick, the character has to stay around.

As JJ is and will be, in both comic format and Netflix format( Defenders,Luke Cage).

A prime example of a book tanking big time is Swamp Thing # 37.The show was as sugar coated, mass market friendly as could be; the polar opposite of Hellblazer....IOW, the show sucked a bag of , on all fronts.Critically and ratings wise.

Try to get $600 for a CGC 9.8 ST # 37 now

It won't happen.

I Zombie has done well critically and ratings wise and has been renewed for a second season.

HOM Annual 1 and IZombie 1 CGC 9.8 are doing fairly well.

I just don't get the hate for Alias/JJ in this thread.

 

I thought the show was great as well as the comic.

 

For the record I have already sold any and all copies of Alias #1 and I still love the show and hope the comic continues to climb, shocker huh?

 

+1

I can understand people not liking the show/character. But to hate it with such passion.. There's just gotta be an elevated motive for that dont you think?

I can't understand the borderline simmering ragefest that is being thrown at the show, either.

Elevated motive or not, it strikes me as whacked.

Anyway, I am watching JJ for the first tim.Just started episode 1 last night and I am now up to episode 5.

I think it is a damn good show.

Yes, you caught me, I am ducusco and my American styled English just got perfect. I've been using slightly off English on my ebay postings, for all these years, so I can one day get on this board only to use perfect American styled English.

Brilliant in your detective abilities, truly, brilliantly astounding.

 

Further, Doug, ivory hunter I've bought two published Frazetta pieces from, among other art. The guy has an incredible art collection, some I've seen, several pieces he's bought from me in the past, albeit not Frazetta.

I've also seen a letter from Frazetta jr stating the piece you just referenced, and provided a link to, as indeed being the work of his father, Frazetta sr. as I was curious about the piece he mentioned in said ad that is a color Frazetta that published.

I seen that too.

I suppose it is a fake as well.

 

 

Or, maybe I'm him and ducusco, oh, or wait, they are one in the same! Yes, that's it, and I am them, or him, rather.

What?

If I read that message a third time, I'd probably have a seizure.

Your use of the English language sucks.

Wether you are Ducusco or Ivoryhunter, I don't know.

My guess is that you are one of the two and you are mentioning the other sketchy character to further muddy the waters.

Anyone with half a brain who reads this thread would not buy anything from either seller, your postings here are a mixture of the ridiculous and disgusting.

I love The Strain and while the show has deviated away from the source material several times, the story is finite. The trilogy of books and comics which it's based on have already ended and sure the show could last a few more years but in the end, well it's meant to end.

Also, how many Dark Horse titles actually retain their value, leaving out the 1st appearances of Hellboy and Aliens?

I was not aware that the Strain had wrapped up its storyline in books/comics, that explains a lot as to the Strain #1 has tanked.

Like 1Cool and Awelander have said, even if JJ does not get a 2nd season, she will be sticking around as a fuxture in other Netflix shows so Alias 1 should be a solid book over the long term.

Last CGC 9.8 sold for about $60.

 

Really? That seems like fluke if it was.

That Strain 1 (not Alias 1, to be clear) was probably an auction sale.i remember it was an odd figure.So yeah, not as high as the other recent BIN sales.

But the 90 day average is below $100, for sure.It is pretty much a $100 book now, last I checked.Which is more than a 50% drop off from its' 12 month average.

What material will they be using though ?

They didn't even have enough for one "season". And the character was wearing pretty thin even by the end of it. I think Marvel/Netflix is smart enough to know what shows and characters really did work and translate well (Daredevil), and which ones were noble experiments that didn't quite pan out (Jessica Jones).

 

-J.

 

I actually think that this won't get a second season. BUT I do think there will be a Heroes for Hire tv season at some point, like a true detective show with Luke and Danny investigating a weird case that keeps crossing the path of Jessica Jones.

 

It is funny you mention the JJ issue, I have several non-comic friends and family who loved Daredevil but hated JJ. In fact, I just had this discussion with my sister-in-law about this subject today. I know several people here on the boards have raved about it, but how many non-comic fans liked that series? My sister-in-law just said it was dark and none of the characters were likable.

 

I haven't watched it yet and so far I'm being told it was not good. I never read the comic, only have a passing familiarity with Daredevil when he crossed over with other MU heroes, and I did enjoy the first 5 or 6 episodes of Daredevil (another series I have yet to finish.) Is JJ a series I will enjoy?

 

If you don't like dark, skip it. It isn't a "happy" story. I personally liked it but I like all good material whether it be lighthearted, middle of the road, or ultra violent. The villain in the TV show was much better than the same guy in the comic and I really liked how bad he was in the book. Everybody that has mentioned it to me had mostly positive things to say. These boards are the only place I've seen negatives.

 

Rotten Tomatoes reviews are very high

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jessica-jones/s01/

 

As are IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2357547/

 

If you already have netflix, it won't cost anything to give it a try.

 

Merry Christmas

 

 

Agreed... Everyone outside of these boards loved it. Including my wife who doesn't care for anything comic related.

 

Yup.

 

That is why JJ will have a role in Defenders and Luke Cage......which will help build momentum....and more plot lines to explore in tandem...for a 2nd season of Alias.

 

The book is seeing a slump now, not surprising as she is not presently being shown on other Netflixs shows but that will likely change soon enough.

 

 

There's not going to be a second season of this show.

 

You can feel free to rub this declaration in my face if I should be proven wrong. (I won't be).

 

The book isn't in a"slump" right now. It is at the end of its speculative cycle and the masses (speculators) are dumping all their copies now to move onto the next "thing".

 

-J.

 

So you say.

 

Based on the overall interest in the character, the show being a hit and the near definitive fact that JJ will be in Defenders and Cage, I have to disagree.

 

KR stated she has to be tight lipped about a 2nd season, due to contractual obligations WRT the timeline of Defenders being filmed.

 

My take is that around the time Defenders hits, the 2nd season of Alias will be promoted.

 

Look at the Strain #1, for comparison of speculation cycles.Even with the 2nd season being confirmed, the book has slumped even further than Alias #1 has.When the Strain comes back on air, prices will shoot upwards again.

 

Speculators/collectors are a fickle, short sighted group.That explains drops and surges in prices.Overlooking the forest for the trees is a perfect analogy.

 

The market on these sorts of books invariably comes in cycles.

 

Even well established books like Walking Dead are subject to this.

 

The market fluctuates greatly but it always corrects itself.

 

Keep in mind I am not suggesting Alias #1 will not be a $1000 or $2000 book but I think , after interest/speculation is piqued again, it will likely hit the $400 mark.

 

That is why I am not joining the herd and selling my CGC 9.8 for $250, now.

 

I will say that if I had the CGC 9.8 #1 in my hands a couple months ago, I would have taken $350 for it.

 

You may want to check your data again. Your examples do not justify your claims on the future prices of alias. Also keep in mind the Alias market more closely resembles the movie hype price than it does a TV show price. It was a real long movie given how it was released.

And it will be another considerable amount of time, before the 3nd season of Alias airs.

The high on Alias #1 CGC 9.8 was $350-$390.

Most movie/TV books tend to float between $200-$400 i.e. 100 Bullets #1 is around $225.Another example would be The Strain #1....which had a GPA average of around $275, last year.

Last CGC 9.8 sold for about $60.

OTOH, IZombie 1 and HOM 1 dipped considerably but were showing renewed interest in CGC 9.8, IIRC.Last time I checked was before the current season ended.

Preacher 1 has outperformed Alias 1 by 300%, when the Preacher trailer hit.That was a similiarly long waited movie that became a show, albeit on Netflix.

WRT the WD analogy:

Sales spike at the start of each season.

I don't have a crystal ball , informing me that Alias will be renewed and what its' future sales will be, either ...but based on what I have related, I do not think that JJ/Alias #1 will be kept on a downward spiral for all that long.

If you can/care to cite out specifically where you disagree with me, I'd appreciate it.

What material will they be using though ?

They didn't even have enough for one "season". And the character was wearing pretty thin even by the end of it. I think Marvel/Netflix is smart enough to know what shows and characters really did work and translate well (Daredevil), and which ones were noble experiments that didn't quite pan out (Jessica Jones).

 

-J.

 

I actually think that this won't get a second season. BUT I do think there will be a Heroes for Hire tv season at some point, like a true detective show with Luke and Danny investigating a weird case that keeps crossing the path of Jessica Jones.

 

It is funny you mention the JJ issue, I have several non-comic friends and family who loved Daredevil but hated JJ. In fact, I just had this discussion with my sister-in-law about this subject today. I know several people here on the boards have raved about it, but how many non-comic fans liked that series? My sister-in-law just said it was dark and none of the characters were likable.

 

I haven't watched it yet and so far I'm being told it was not good. I never read the comic, only have a passing familiarity with Daredevil when he crossed over with other MU heroes, and I did enjoy the first 5 or 6 episodes of Daredevil (another series I have yet to finish.) Is JJ a series I will enjoy?

 

If you don't like dark, skip it. It isn't a "happy" story. I personally liked it but I like all good material whether it be lighthearted, middle of the road, or ultra violent. The villain in the TV show was much better than the same guy in the comic and I really liked how bad he was in the book. Everybody that has mentioned it to me had mostly positive things to say. These boards are the only place I've seen negatives.

 

Rotten Tomatoes reviews are very high

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jessica-jones/s01/

 

As are IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2357547/

 

If you already have netflix, it won't cost anything to give it a try.

 

Merry Christmas

 

 

Agreed... Everyone outside of these boards loved it. Including my wife who doesn't care for anything comic related.

 

Yup.

 

That is why JJ will have a role in Defenders and Luke Cage......which will help build momentum....and more plot lines to explore in tandem...for a 2nd season of Alias.

 

The book is seeing a slump now, not surprising as she is not presently being shown on other Netflixs shows but that will likely change soon enough.

 

 

There's not going to be a second season of this show.

 

You can feel free to rub this declaration in my face if I should be proven wrong. (I won't be).

 

The book isn't in a"slump" right now. It is at the end of its speculative cycle and the masses (speculators) are dumping all their copies now to move onto the next "thing".

 

-J.

So you say.

Based on the overall interest in the character, the show being a hit and the near definitive fact that JJ will be in Defenders and Cage, I have to disagree.

KR stated she has to be tight lipped about a 2nd season, due to contractual obligations WRT the timeline of Defenders being filmed.

My take is that around the time Defenders hits, the 2nd season of Alias will be promoted.

Look at the Strain #1, for comparison of speculation cycles.Even with the 2nd season being confirmed, the book has slumped even further than Alias #1 has.When the Strain comes back on air, prices will shoot upwards again.

Speculators/collectors are a fickle, short sighted group.That explains drops and surges in prices.Overlooking the forest for the trees is a perfect analogy.

The market on these sorts of books invariably comes in cycles.

Even well established books like Walking Dead are subject to this.

The market fluctuates greatly but it always corrects itself.

Keep in mind I am not suggesting Alias #1 will not be a $1000 or $2000 book but I think , after interest/speculation is piqued again, it will likely hit the $400 mark.

That is why I am not joining the herd and selling my CGC 9.8 for $250, now.

I will say that if I had the CGC 9.8 #1 in my hands a couple months ago, I would have taken $350 for it.

Fifties sci-fi and crime digests, Modesty Blaise strip reprints, the continuation of the Spenser novels by Ace Atkins, after Robert Parker passed away. He writes good Spenser, but Hawk, not so much.

 

I was really bummed when Parker passed. I spent my first 49 years living in the Boston area, with most of it in Cambridge and Beacon Hill. I'd sometimes see Parker dining at Harvest or another local restaurant. He helped the owner of the local mystery book store build their bookshelves.

 

Parker is my hands down favorite mystery writer. When I heard about Atkins taking on Spenser after Parker's death I was excited and fearful. So far I only read LULLABY (his first) and thought it felt a good bit like Parker although less fluid.Hise descriptions of the greater Boston neighborhoods were noticeably more stilted than Parker's. Obviously written by someone who never lived there.

 

Does he get a better flow in subsequent stories?

 

Yes./ I've read four of the first five by Atkins, he's smoothing out pretty well. It's a somewhat different Spenser, but it's still Spenser....and he's taken on Sixkill as an apprentice, and that relationship is nearly as satisfying as Spenser and Hawk. I believe he's going to be a worthy successor.

 

I haven't read a Spenser novel since the late 1980s. I liked the first couple, which were more in the hardboiled P.I. tradition as I recall, but I got tired of the crutch of the near superhuman abilities of Hawk to bail Spenser out of tough situations ( I felt the same about Robert Crais' Joe Pike in the Elvis Cole novels), and the plots seemed to become more over the top thriller than gritty noir around then. This was also around the time Parker wrote the Marlowe Poodle Springs novel - which I found a pale and tedious imitation of Chandler.

 

I'll admit to being a bit of crime fiction grump though, frequently losing interest in authors as I feel they become lazy plotters, too committed to the nobility of their central characters (diminishing their flaws as time goes on), or so enamored of their own brilliance that their material becomes near parody of their earlier work (I'm talking about you James Ellroy).

 

Good summation on Ellroy, and in general.

I have been a big fan of Hard Case Crime books for the past few years.

They feature mostly obscure, earlier stories by Parker and his ilk.

I've read a couple dozen of them over the past few years.They are all generally around 150-200 pages; the sort of books you can read within 2 sittings or so.

Hardcasecrime.com has a full listing and you can grab them in lots for pennies on the dollar on eBay.

What material will they be using though ?

They didn't even have enough for one "season". And the character was wearing pretty thin even by the end of it. I think Marvel/Netflix is smart enough to know what shows and characters really did work and translate well (Daredevil), and which ones were noble experiments that didn't quite pan out (Jessica Jones).

 

-J.

 

I actually think that this won't get a second season. BUT I do think there will be a Heroes for Hire tv season at some point, like a true detective show with Luke and Danny investigating a weird case that keeps crossing the path of Jessica Jones.

 

It is funny you mention the JJ issue, I have several non-comic friends and family who loved Daredevil but hated JJ. In fact, I just had this discussion with my sister-in-law about this subject today. I know several people here on the boards have raved about it, but how many non-comic fans liked that series? My sister-in-law just said it was dark and none of the characters were likable.

 

I haven't watched it yet and so far I'm being told it was not good. I never read the comic, only have a passing familiarity with Daredevil when he crossed over with other MU heroes, and I did enjoy the first 5 or 6 episodes of Daredevil (another series I have yet to finish.) Is JJ a series I will enjoy?

 

If you don't like dark, skip it. It isn't a "happy" story. I personally liked it but I like all good material whether it be lighthearted, middle of the road, or ultra violent. The villain in the TV show was much better than the same guy in the comic and I really liked how bad he was in the book. Everybody that has mentioned it to me had mostly positive things to say. These boards are the only place I've seen negatives.

 

Rotten Tomatoes reviews are very high

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jessica-jones/s01/

 

As are IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2357547/

 

If you already have netflix, it won't cost anything to give it a try.

 

Merry Christmas

 

 

Agreed... Everyone outside of these boards loved it. Including my wife who doesn't care for anything comic related.

Yup.

That is why JJ will have a role in Defenders and Luke Cage......which will help build momentum....and more plot lines to explore in tandem...for a 2nd season of Alias.

The book is seeing a slump now, not surprising as she is not presently being shown on other Netflixs shows but that will likely change soon enough.

What material will they be using though ?

They didn't even have enough for one "season". And the character was wearing pretty thin even by the end of it. I think Marvel/Netflix is smart enough to know what shows and characters really did work and translate well (Daredevil), and which ones were noble experiments that didn't quite pan out (Jessica Jones).

 

-J.

That is your opinion on the show and your opinion on how Marvel/Netflix operates.All due respect, both conflict with the majority that I have seen regarding Alias.

The show however was a hit and there is ample material for as many seasons(s) as Marvel/Netflix agrees to.

The book will come back to its' $350+ selling point, it is just a matter of time.

Looks like I will be sitting on my CGC 9.8 slabbed #1 for about a year, because I am not going to let it go at the levels it is presently going for.

JJ is guaranteed to have a role in Netflix's Hero For Hire and Defenders:

http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/The_Defenders_%28Netflix_series%29

From what i read in the linked threads, contractual issues prevented a second season of Alias to beging shooting intil Defenders shooting was completed.

Those 2 series will revive interest in her character, which in all likelihood, will propel the second season of Alias to begin shooting after Defenders is wrapped up.

Groan.