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20 minutes ago, the blob said:

Have you ever read a comic??? Nobody is dead! Except maybe Loki. Hiddelston might be tired of the role.

 

Nope, never read a comic before....sigh!!!. Only have over 150 short boxes of comics and Watchmen and Infinity Gauntlet are easily 2 of my all time favorite stories. Were not talking about what happens in the next film. Wre talking about this film and even knowing some of these characters are coming back doesn't make the scenes any less impactful, at least not for me. 

And if you have read any of the interviews with The Russo's or Fiege, you would know that there are going to be some surprise deaths or people not coming back at all, so nothing is for sure right now besides a few main characters. Its not just going to be Loki & Hiemdall.

6 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

Agreed.

Another scene that looked so realistic was when Thanos hurts Tony bad.I never seen Tony look some vulnerable. That was an intense as it gets in the Marvel movies.

They all looked FAR more vulnerable than we have ever seen them before. I was right about one thing tho and that is that Marvel purposely misdirected people with the trailer. I said that awhile back as they made it look like Vision was going to die by getting the mind stone ripped out and Thanos says "I hope they remember you" when looking down at Stark. I usually don't watch trailers, but the trailer aired during the super bowl so I just said screw it. I suspected from the very beginning that the trailer was misdirection. 

3 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

The Scarlet Witch and Vision scene was heartbreaking as well.

Agreed! Same with Stark watching Spider-Man die. He was just a kid and when he starts saying "I don't want to die,, I don't want to go", the look on Starks face was just brutal. Some pretty impactful scenes in the film in regards to deaths. 

4 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

So spoilers ahead. Leave this post now if you don't want the movie to be spoiled.

What do you guys think was most shocking deaths and saddest deaths?

Shocking deaths to me where Black Panther and Guardians of the Galaxy.

I really didn't think they kill them do to their box office success.

 

Saddest deaths to me where Groot, Spiderman and the saddest one of all Gamora.

Gamora was gut wrenching.

Well, can't wait until Avengers 4 to see how this all gets solved.

 

Gamora was easily the saddest death for me. Most shocking was Loki, not because I thought he would survive the movie, but because it happened in the first 10 minutes.

Here is a MIGHTY impressive feat:

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 Over the weekend, it had already exceeded the entire runs of Iron Man 2, Logan, Iron Man, Ant-Man, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger and The Incredible Hulk.

http://deadline.com/2018/05/avengers-infinity-war-first-week-global-international-box-office-results-1202380241/

Joe Russo (one of the directors) has also said that Valkyrie did indeed survive the attack. 

Yep, looks like you were spot on!

In the opening scene of the film, Thanos and the Black Order wipe out an entire Asgardian refugee vessel, as well as Loki and Heimdall. However, Valkyrie's (Tessa Thompson) fate is never directly addressed throughout the movie. So, fans were left wondering if the warrior is still alive after the events of the third Avengers film.

During a school-sponsored Q&A at the University of Iowa, Russo did confirm Valkyrie is still alive and kicking. According to a Reddit user who was in attendance, the director explained a few Asgardians managed to survive the massacre via escape pods, with Valkyrie was among the survivors.

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/05/01/avengers-infinity-war-director-confirms-this-character-survived

That makes me really happy as I absolutely loved the character. 

Wow, I guess New York's AMC 25 had an 11 Marvel movie marathon that lasted 31 hours before Infinity War aired as the finale. Now those are some die hard fans. Not sure I could sit in a theatre for 31 hours just to get to Infinity War. 

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A thunderclap of shouts rolls in approval. The crowd at New York’s AMC Empire 25 is getting restless, but it would be unfair to call them impatient. After 11 consecutive Marvel movies, they’re ready to cap off a 31-hour marathon with a conclusion they’ve all been waiting for: Avengers: Infinity War. Just off of Times Square, dozens of fans, prepared with blankets, pillows, snacks, and caffeine, have committed to celebrating the long-anticipated release of Marvel’s latest film with a special marathon event.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/1/17294156/marvel-avengers-infinity-war-movie-marathon-amc

3 minutes ago, Cocomonkey said:

Thor's distress call said that about half of the Asgardians managed to escape the ship. It isn't explicitly stated anywhere, but the general assumption seems to be that Korg and Valkyrie were among those who managed to get out before the rest were killed and the ship was destroyed.

Ah, didn't pick up on that part! Much appreciated!

I asked this in the other thread in spoiler mode and haven't had a response. Just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Valkyrie? Wasn't she on the ship that Thanos attacked at the very beginning? They never showed what happened to her. 

33 minutes ago, miraclemet said:

Does IW suffer from the buffet problem? 

(I havent seen it yet so Im asking) 

Based on what some of you are saying it's the old issue of trying to cater to too many tastes, leads to middling results for all. 

Or by trying to give some attention to too many characters leads to no meaningful development for any. 

Too many plot points moving slightly forward, makes it feel like the overall plot barely moved... 

 

and so on. 

Is that the vibe?

Not for me. Given the challenges they faced with making this film, I think they did an absolutely brilliant job. It never once felt jumbled or out of sorts. You have to remember going into this that its really a film about Thanos more than it is any of the individual Avengers. 

28 minutes ago, zhamlau said:

Honestly I thought IW was middle of the road, same for Black Panther. I enjoyed them both, but it blows my mind how much each has made. I think if you look at the top 5 MCU grosses, only the bottom of that list (Civil War) in my opinion is in the upper 3rd marvel movies content/execution wise. Great movies like Ragnarok, Winter Soldier, and GOTG are like 8, 10, and 12 on the list money wise.

I have to agree on Black Panther. I really enjoyed it and thought it was very good film, but it appears to be one of the most popular films in the MCU to date and that just isn't the case for  me. It would probably rank around 7 or 8th if I were to make a favorite MCU film list. 

17 minutes ago, ExNihilo said:

I don't get how Ragnarok is a great movie.  It was basically a Guardians of the Galaxy clone tonally and a very poor one at that.  The jokes were forced and not nearly as funny as GotG.  Korg got way too much screen time because its the director (and I legit hope he died in IW).  Bottom 5 Marvel for me.  I literally left the theater thinking "please Marvel, no more Thor movies."

Winter Soldier and GotG are for sure top 5 films (along with Civil War).

I loved Ragnarok as it was very different from everything we have seen thus far.I thought Cate Blanchet did a great job as Hela and I LOVED Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie. And that scene near the end when Thor starts attacking the soldiers on the bridge to the Led Zeppelin song was one of the best scenes I have seen to date in the MCU. 

Again, as always to each thier own.

Looks like its broken another record, and by a pretty big margin. The previous record was Universal’s Furious 7 ($14M on April 6, 2015). Infinity War almost doubled that amount.

‘Avengers: Infinity War’ Posts April Monday Record With $25M+

http://deadline.com/2018/05/avengers-infinity-war-monday-box-office-second-best-marvel-1202380127/

Here is an interesting article:

Avengers: Infinity War – Hollywood has admitted defeat in its war with box-set TV

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/may/01/avengers-infinity-war-hollywood-tv-box-sets

3 hours ago, marvelcollector said:

I actually don't go to see these movies; I see them later.

And to be clear: I don't think they are bad. I think I said in a previous post that they are ok (even good) on their own merits. They've just strayed further and further from the comics, either for political reasons  (Mandarin is a good example), or for some swelled head director to infuse their ideas into the narrative. I just can't get that excited about them. It's not surprising; we comic readers are not the target audience, and the studio doesn't care if they dischant us, as long as they maximize profits.

I'm happy (I guess) that the characters are exposed to a larger audience (I've always said the general public became more aware of the Hulk via the TV series as opposed to the comics), but I would have liked them to see a truer version.

As if that changes anything at all. Your still watching the movies. As for your feelings on the movies, your posts certainly don't come off the way yur describing here at all, at least not to me. Either way, my advice would be to not get so defensive and take things so personally. Again, I wasn't attacking your opinion at all. I was simply making a very common sense suggestion if you really didn't like what Marvel was doing with the MCU. 

21 hours ago, N e r V said:

I’m curious how Avatar 2 is going to play some 11 years after the originals release. I never like to doubt anything James Cameron touches but I remember more than a few people going to the original for the then novel 3D (in 2009) effects and thinking the actual film was so-so.

I like the movie OK but some 9 years later I can’t say it has built any great following on the level of a Star Wars. Still James Cameron always seems to surprise so we’ll see...

Never underestimate James Cameron. Not only is he a master at the medium of directing and storytelling, but he is also pretty much a genius when it comes to technology. The guy has invented and patented quite a few things in his time.

Cameron's inventions/patents

https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-cameron

I for one am most excited for his Terminator sequel, which will ignore all of the previous films post Terminator 2. 

3 hours ago, bane said:

I really can't be bothered to go through all the points of why I didn't like Ultron.

I'm glad you liked it and hold it in high regard. 

My biggest problem with Ultron was they took the humor aspect of the film too far. One of the most impressive aspects of the VAST majority of Marvel films has been thier ability to mix and balance the action scenes, the more serious exposition scenes, humor, and legitimately moving character interactions. Black Widow & Cap in Winter Soldier is a perfect example. Had the interactions between Widow and Cap not ben in Winter Solider, it would not have been nearly as good of a film. IMO, this is really where Marvel puts DC to shame. Unfortunately with Utron, that balance was nowhere near what we have seen with most of the other films. 

I still enjoyed the film, but it would definitely be way down the ladder if I were to rank all of Marvels films. 

4 hours ago, marvelcollector said:

Gee, thanks for the advice.

Of course, my fault for actually posting a true feeling counter to the groupthink in this thread.

What was I thinking?

Its simply common sense. I have stated MULTIPLE times in this forum that people have a right to thier own opinions and that I respect those opinions even if I happen to disagree with them, and yes that even includes yours. That being said, if you don't like what Marvel is doing with the films, don't go and see them and stick with the comics you enjoy. Again, just common sense in my book. I know I don't go see movies that I don't like. Maybe your different. All the power to you!

And I understand fully what subjective opinions are and would NEVER ridicule or make fun of someone's subjective opinion on an online forum. IMO, that's one of the biggest problems with the modern day internet. So clearly your reading a LOT more into my post than was intended. 

As for what you were thinking....well, what was I thinking making a logical post to someone that isn't enjoying the MCU? People like you get so defensive that you think any post that is made that addresses your opinion is an attack on your opinion and you couldn't possibly be more wrong in this regard. 

Its dominating by such a large margin that Korea might take legislative action to prevent such domination at the box office. How absurd,

Korea Box Office: ‘Avengers’ Domination May Hasten Legislative Response

http://variety.com/2018/film/asia/korea-box-office-avengers-domination-legal-pushback-1202791599/

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“Avengers” played on 85% of screens nationwide, and some 2,553 over the weekend. It accounted for 95% of total weekend box office, ahead of second placed “Intention” with just 1%.

Now that is truly the definition of dominating. It accounted for 95% of the total weekend box office. The 2nd highest movie accounted for just 1% of ticket sales, lol.

Love this:

9 hours ago, Unca Ben said:

I'm wondering how many Thanos costumes complete with golden gauntlet I'll see at my door this Halloween.

It will be a good way for kids to hit up the same houses time and time again. There will likely be so many kids dressed up as Thanos, Iron Man, Cap, etc. tht it will be impossible to tell if they have already been at your house already. Great way to go home with like 50 pounds in candy, lol. 

3 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

Estimates may have been slightly off, not accounting for late weekend rush.

 

And again, these figures don't include China, the 2nd biggest market in the world. It opens I think on May 12th in Chiina. Once those figures get added onto the total opening figures, this is going to crush everything, and by a significant margin. 

27 minutes ago, marvelcollector said:

What I think some are missing is that these movies are NOT "dreams come true" for some of us. They are not filmed realizations of the comics we loved, they're altered versions. And we just can't get that excited about them. They may be ok on their own terms, but aren't nearly as good as the films we've seen in our heads.

Nobody ever said that it was a dream come true for everyone in here. Again, no film ever gets 100% positive rating and if you haven't learned at this point that Marvel isn't following the comics verbatim, you never will. As I said earlier, I for one don't want Mavel to feel like they have to follow these comics to the letter. Again, where is the fun in seeing a film when you know exactly what is going to happen. I for one couldn't possibly be more content with the direction Marvel has taken with all 19 films. If you don't like what Marvel is doing, then just don't see the films and just stick with the comics. Problem solved. 

9 minutes ago, Chuck Gower said:

Worldwide. Downstairs from the Bangkok Comic Convention in a huge mall in Thailand, Marvel had a monstrous set up on Saturday, and the store was just selling t-shirts, hats, figures like it was the last day they'd ever be available. Just cranking out the sales.

Yeah, as I stated earlier, merchandising is HUGE for both DC and Marvel. You have everything from high end statues from companies like Sideshow and Prime 1 to lunch boxes, Lego sets, T-shirts, and pretty much anything you can think of in-between. Disney really is king of Hollywood right now and are just making truck loads of cash!! And you have Incredibles 2 coming from Pixar. A lot of people have been waiting a LONG time for a sequel to that film. That film is going to rake in a ton of money as well. And Black Panther is still in the #5 spot right now at the box office and has grossed 1.3 billion to date. So Marvel has 2 of the top 5 spots right now in regards to the box office.

The people looking at the box office opening numbers, you have to remember that this still has yet to open in China, which is the 2nd bigges movie market in the world. It opens in China in the 2nd week of May and those numbers will be added onto the opening numbers for Infinity War. So you should expect at least another $150 million to get added onto Infinity War's opening numbers. 

7 minutes ago, DiamondCityComics said:

I never go back to the theater, guess I should have clarified that.  I own a ton on bluray. 

 

Ah, gotcha!! I really don't either. I think there have been like 5 films in my entire life I went and saw more than once including The Matrix & Avatar.

1 minute ago, DiamondCityComics said:

I never see a movie more than once but I am offering to bring family that haven't seen it so I can go again.  I just really loved this movie.  

Wow, you never watch a movie more than once? I just can't imagine not revisiting my favorite movies every so often. Not to mention, some films really need to be seen twice to really fully appreciate them. Memento and Inception are 2 perfect examples.

2 hours ago, kagenish said:

 

 

Let not all forget that if it wasn't for Paramount given Marvel the chances with Iron Man none of these movies and including Disney buyout could've happened.

Actually, Marvel raised the VAST majority of money on Iron Man. They actually put up the IP rights to MANY of their characters as collateral. It was considered a HUGE risk at the time and had it failed, Marvel would have lost the rights to many of thier characters including the Avengers. So Paramount didn't have nearly as much to do with it as your suggesting. 

5 minutes ago, paperheart said:

waaaaaaaaahhhh, it's not a contest; in the truest sense of the the words it's NO CONTEST. 

Its never even been close to a contest, with the one exception being Wonder Woman. DC is so far behind with the DCEU compared to Marvel that its not even funny. And the sad thing is, Marvel basically handed DC the perfect blueprint for making these films, but DC was stubborn and wanted to go a different route. One much more dark and serious and we have all seen how that has played out. The good news on this front is I think DC is starting to come around. Wonder Woman was a great movie and hiring Joss Whedon clearly shows they want to lighten things up a bit. Still, they have a LOT of catching up to do. And what makes this even more unbelievable for me is I think DC has a MUCH stronger roster of characters than Marvel.