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    Long read - Story of how I lost a DWJ commission and so much more.

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    On 6/18/2018 at 12:58 AM, comix4fun said:

    I think another valuable lesson you can take from this experience is to be discerning from whom you seek advice.

    Totally agree with that.

    Also, commissions are all about expectations so there's bound to be some level of emotion involved. 

    I just received a commission (not related to Felix or his clients).  It was supposed to have a specific version of 2 characters.  Well, I didn't get the versions I wanted but otherwise... a great piece of art.  But so specific, I probably can't flip it (except at a great loss).  I'm still trying to absorb it.  I haven't commented to the artist.  And I doubt he'd re-do it, for artistic reasons I'd guess.  It'll probably go into the back page of an Itoya.

    Long read - Story of how I lost a DWJ commission and so much more.

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    Getting a little off track here...

    2 hours ago, alxjhnsn said:

    The artist owns the copyright to whatever she draws unless she specifically sells it. It may or may not be protected by Trademark. 

    Joe Staton has a Justice Society print that reads:
    TM & (c) 2016 DC Comics Inc Used by permission

    I asked Joe if he REALLY has permission.  He said that in fact he has a letter from DC that gives him permission to draw their characters.  I don't think it's limited to a specific list of DC characters but... there you go.  This was the first instance I've heard of an artist actually having "permission" to draw copyrighted characters.

    Nick Cardy occasionally mentioned that he was worried about doing convention sketches.  I just told him that they probably won't be throwing a 80 (and later 90) year old guy in jail, so don't worry too much.

    Roger Kastel (artist of the Jaws paperback cover and movie poster) also painted The Empire Strikes Back style A poster (Gone with the Wind version).  He told me his contract expressly restricted him to only depicting characters and scenes from ESB.  And he thought this contact was still in force even decades later.  He didn't think he was legally allowed to paint a character like Jabba the Hutt.  So all you guys and gals in Artist Alley should feel lucky.

    Tracking Down the Earliest BATMAN Art in Existence

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    10 hours ago, ESeffinga said:

    For those that haven't already seen the Batman & Bill documentary, you may find some of it interesting even if it's not totally new info to you. 

    I'm a backer of a failed (says me) Kickstarter documentary on Bill Finger.  My reward (a DVD of the documentary) has an estimated delivery date of May 2014..

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/comicartscouncil/the-cape-creator-a-tribute-to-bat-maker-bill-finge     (Finger with no R)

    Yay.

    I'm starting to hate commissions

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    5 hours ago, Michaeld said:

    If you buy a piece that was drawn by the artist without having been requested by anyone (including yourself) and wasn't published anywhere what do you call that? What did you just buy? I ask because in my CAF gallery under "Art Type" I'm given 24 options and none of them adequately defines this type of purchase. I thought maybe pin-up but I'm assuming that applies to a piece that was published.

    I have a CAF gallery called "Various good stuff" that has prelims and random pieces that artists had in their portfolios.  Under "Art Type", I usually put "Prelim" or "Other". 

    And yes, I'm fairly certain some of the images were repeated over and over.  For example, the 50's Bat-family by Sheldon Moldoff (Shelley), not a commission.  I think when I got my Sgt Rock by Russ Heath, he may have had multiples and I picked the one I liked best.  Also, Nick Cardy repeated a lot images several times.  In some of his later pieces, he actually numbered them (i.e. "1 of 3", "2 of 3", "3 of 3").  I love Nick's art and I wasn't afraid to buy some of those from him.

    There's a relatively well known artist who sold drawings that seem to be mannequins with different costumes rendered.  I was at a convention and requested a Black Canary.  After I picked up mine, I later spotted a guy with a Black Canary that was just a mirror image of mine.  I told him I liked mine better and he said the same. 

    High priced modern comic art

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    Posted · Edited by Will_K

    3 minutes ago, Twanj said:

    I hope established artists have flip-proof prices. They deserve it. I definitely want them making the profit, not a flipper.

    Exactly.  They've seen art sell for big bucks.  They've even seen their own art sell for big bucks.  Why should some random guy make more $$$ than the actual artist ??

    High priced modern comic art

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    If you're getting new art from the artist and/or their agent, you're paying what they "want" for it.  It's their art.  So let them come up with their price. 

    However, I have to say that the pricing seems relatively "flip-proof".  As has been mentioned, you'd be very lucky to get back what you paid for the art.  That has nothing to do with buying art as an "investment".  Rather, you're selling under duress or to pay for another piece.

     

     

     

    Your critiques of a Chaykin Commission, please

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    Posted · Edited by Will_K

    14 hours ago, Rick2you2 said:

    A poor design is okay; poor execution is not.

    This is interesting.  I'm kind of surprised.  Especially, in this particular case, Chaykin provided a rough layout and you indicate he was having a hard time with the expression.  It's hard to know but would you be more happy with a poor design but no pasteup, better jaw and nice looking hat ??

    Regarding the other commission you mentioned, if the design was poor from the get-go, how great was the execution that you're proud to own the work.  Did you know what the design was before it was completed??  Out of curiosity, I'd like to see that commission.

    Also, if you think Chaykin "rushed" to complete the commission (before traveling) was a factor, I think the packaging would've been an issue.  I think that's the biggest pain in the for artists.  You think you're done when the art is done.  But noooo, now you have to pack it up and mail it or call for a pickup.
     

     

    Archie art: any fans and collectors here?

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    Posted · Edited by Will_K

    Just posted a Betty & Veronica story by Jeff Shultz in a new CAF gallery.  And consolidated Jeff's other art in a new gallery dedicated to Jeff, it was about time.  That gallery also has a new cover added. 

    Jeff's Black Canary & Green Arrow piece remains in that gallery.

    Hoping to pick up more art from Jeff when I see him at a local show in a couple weeks.

    And I misspelled Jeff's last name before (inserted a C).  Sorry, Jeff !!

    Archie art: any fans and collectors here?

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    I have some Archie art.  But almost none of the published art is on CAF, I should do something about that.

    A while ago, I put up a twice up Dan DeCarlo (Rudy Lapick inks) story from Pep 157 for sale, still there if you want to look.

    Of the "modern" Archie artists, I like Jeff Schultz.  He worked for years on Betty & Veronica.  He doesn't really have an on-line presence.  But he's currently represented by Catskill Comics ( catskillcomics.com ).  Covers, pages, complete stories.

    Nothing against Dan Parent or Fernando Ruiz, but Jeff's lines are really, really clean.  He usually had inkers.  But he'd ink the faces himself in a lot of cases.  Once in a while Jeff would totally ink himself.

    How cheap are OA collectors?

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    I'm not on Facebook.  I don't follow the Yahoo groups.  And those are free, I think.

    Some have commented about not missing out on something they don't have.  So am I missing much ?

    However I am a CAF premium member. 

    What I pay for CAF means a whole lot more to them than paying the same dollars to Facebook or Yahoo.  That's all that matters to me.

    On the plus side:

    1) It's a great resource to discover new art and new artists. 

    2) CAF is a great reference for matching up art with owners (e.g. when you suspect you see a fake for sale).

    3) I occasionally buy and sell art via CAF.

    On the flip side:

    1) The market data doesn't matter all that much to me. 

    2) I think CAF invested a good amount of time/energy to create an auction marketplace that did not get a following. 

     

    How cheap are OA collectors?

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    Posted · Edited by Will_K

    10 hours ago, Hekla said:

    ‘New Art in the last seven days’ as opposed to 24 hours

     

    If you're logged in (or not), under Latest Updates | All, hit View All.

    On the Recently Updated Galleries in the Last 24 Hrs screen,

    you'll see the View all in Last 7 Days button.

    There's also a View all in Last 30 Days button.

     

    Confessions of a Newbie Collector

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    7 hours ago, Skizz said:

    This is a page from #0 of Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory, illustrated by J.H. Williams III. 

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    But it also sets off my OCD bells something fierce, because it doesn't quite fit neatly into my collection. The primary focus of my collection is art from Alan Moore books, followed by 90s X-Men and finally art from masters like Moebius, Eisner, Kirby etc (although I don't actually have anything from the latter two ... yet). But this page doesn't quite fit anywhere.

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    But, I do love art and it is from a book written by the other British heavyweight writer ... Grant Morrison. So there's that. 

    So you're basically saying... you're almost on the edge of the slippery slope that is collecting original comic art.

    How's the view??  Watch out, the first step is a doozy.