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CGC makes that claim. to quote CGC the holder greatly slows down the aging process of the interior pages.

no you I said of interior pages. and I did not say in comparison to mylar. some acid free backing boards are not full acid free. So if you have a mylar with a bcw backing board.. going to be different than with an e Gerber. Show me the science that supports your argument that pages age at the same rate in the holder as a regular poly bag and bcw backing board.

it greatly slows down the aging process of the interior pages.

no science it is simple and I have already explained it so go back and re read if you care, if not oh well so what is the point of the archival encapsulation? It should greatly slow the aging process of interior pages guess we will agree to disagree I didn't say stop... I said it slowed down the aging process... esp of interior pages hence why a lot are not coming forward

One does simply crack open a slab which has been screened by 2 people to be a good candidate for cpr, expertly pressed and expect a grade bump. Maybe not every single time, every single day but not like what is being described here.

clearly repeating it doesnt work sweetheart.

you guys would argue with a rock if you could. Na ill stay here thanks

listen Kimik... according to some of the most important people in this industry. I am not going to name drop here to prove a point to you.

for probably the 5th time now... HERO RESTORATION STARTED THIS THREAD. Probably the farthest from amateur

the pro tip thing was old the first time. I only used it to be condescending to someone who I felt was being ultra condescending. Maybe that has been ur experience but that has not been others experiences for the last decade until recently.

and some pressers have been trained by some of these top experts in the world in grading to know exactly what to look at and what to look for. Some of these pressers are handling hundreds of books every week as well. Yes expertly pressed books can exhibit certain characteristics which may be viewed as flaws by eagle-eyed graders... sure... all day... but then that should have been a problem all along. Not just now.

I get complimentary second opinions from people I know personally who have or are professional graders. It is why I am taking a strong stance here and not even so much for myself... for other people who aren't willing to come out and talk about this problem due to fear it will hurt their business. They cant pay rent or whatever else. while I agree with you 100 percent... do you see who made this initial post? Hero Restoration. When I talk about "pro" it is someone who is familiar with working with paper at the full conservation and restoration level. People who know paper. Not someone who bought a pressing guide and a t shirt press 6 months ago. Thats already been done by most. They have cut off CPR until it is ironed out but that should not have to be the case. Not at all. Sorry you dont agree.

If you know how to look for defects, understand grading, and know how to press all of those defects out to really improve the comic... you think that person should not have had a good run? If you quantifiably improve something, and someone basically degrades it... thats how this should work?

I am simply pleading the cases of people who do not wish to come forward for varying reasons while trying to set the record straight. I think you offer some good advice but I do not agree with things you say regarding CPR. When you have someone who always gets 1-5 grade bumps on CPR books over the course of 10 years, and all of the sudden its not happening.... multiplied by multiple people. Imagine for 10 years you can bump books and you can count on ur single finger how many books have not bumped when you thought they were a candidate now all the sudden every order is coming back with no bumps and losing grades.... while you have improved your process. Come on now!

Im not convinced you do completely understand because the CPR game used to be able to take advantage of as a competent presser, hell even Joe Shmo could read a guide, buy a t shirt press and bump a book but clearly now it isn't foolproof.... but I do know certain peoples pressing game is. When you have an excellent presser, who pulls an excellent candidate, it should not really be a roll of the dice. Only one real example is being shown here when I know there are many competent passers going thru this same thing being described in this thread. Again, imo, there is something more going on here. And thank you for wishing me luck... seems like Ill need a lot of it around here.

Well when you have guys not listening or not reading posts, it gets a lil irritating having to re explain or repeat. and I highly doubt that.

SERIOUSLY!

my post exists to inform you that you are the one who is wrong sir! Because these books were not "stored in boxes" they were "encapsulated in archival Smithsonian museum quality like materials" which greatly slows the "aging" process. Or do you not know what those shiny plastic cases with grades before and after, are??

What part of books being selected by a competent presser as an excellent candidate are you having trouble understanding? We are NOT talking about Joe shmo who just picked up a pressing guide, t shirt press and some steal ball bearings here. We are talking about people who are basically experts at pressing here. Guys who have been submitting and working on cracking and pressing books for 10 years... every single day! PRO TIP... FROM AN ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL HERE- "aging" of paper does not happen to that degree while encapsulated. Sorry to burst ur pro tip bubble.

If it was just this one case and not an extremely competent presser I would agree with all your points. I am hearing of many situations this is happening. Other well known, quality pressers as well. I do not really agree with "even if a book was pressed" unless we are talking about someone who does not really know what they are doing and or it was a singular issue. This is not a singular issue.

You can buy as many as you want and compare grades but that is not exactly what is being talked about here. If you buy a book grading 7.0 and a professional is taking the time to crack it out because they see press-able defects, which in all other cases have net 1-4 grade bumps, and it comes back lower grade with lower page quality.... time and time again over the course of 5 months.... there is something wrong. We aren't talking about recent up and coming instagram pressers with a cheap t shirt press here either. We are talking about guys who literally do this as their main profession... every day... for 5-10 years. Come on now and furthermore all of those books are in CGC cases, being recently graded by CGC.

you are talking about a singular book. These guys submit hundreds of books a month and are talking about books which were previously graded, then cracked out due to seeing correctable defects thru the case making them a candidate for the process. So they get pressed and Re Submitted then they come back a lower grade and a lower page quality. It simply does not make sense, esp in the cases where they were recently graded. Page paper can not age to the point where it drops quality that fast, especially encapsulated. Something else is at play here. I know they have been pressured to get tighter on their grading but this seems above and beyond.