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Philflound
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Definite 0.5. If it was the back cover, there would be a slim possibility of a 1.0. Depends on the rest of the condition of the book.
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34 minutes ago, MadGenius said:
Yep. QC is great. Nothing to see here.
Whatever dude. Just send them back on their dime and have them fix it.
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I agree that it looks like it is rippling from the holder. Not sure if it is cracked out if the ripples will remain or just flatten from not being in the holder. If the ripples remain, they may press it for free due to the defective holder. I'd ask though before sending it. Maybe even send the pics. With your original notes, there is nothing you list that says anything about bends. So most likely there would not be an increase in grade.
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11 minutes ago, MadGenius said:
QC continues to be poor consistently.
Well, you could always call them and apply for a job with QC. Maybe it would improve if you were there.
Decided to add a little. When a few people push through a few thousand books a day, there are bound to be some slip ups getting through. If they have to slow down much to look over said books with even more detail, you'd be harping on later turn around times. I rarely see people praise the company for a job well done. When they are flipping their comics because they got graded for multiple times of what they paid. I'd like to know how many people actual send a thank you email to the company when their comics come back in a timely manner in great condition.
BTW, I never heard back from the OP about why they posted a book graded 1 1/2 years ago now to complain about it.
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Actually you should remove the plastic beforehand. The problem with this book and other polybagged books is that the line sealed down the middle usually will leave a "polybag crease", which is more like a bend. This will lower the grade, even if the book is 9.8 otherwise. You'd be looking most likely at a 9.2. Remedy of course is pressing, which should remove most of the bend if not all of it.
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1 minute ago, pemart1966 said:
So what's the definition of "High grade books"?
It would seem to me that tape is tape is tape and should factor into to the grading the same way for every book regardless of condition.
Grading is subjective but something as objective as tape shouldn't be IMO.
What about rust on staples; writing; staining etc do those things factor in differently depending on the grade of the book?
Most people define high grade as 8.0+.
Yep. Once you get out of the 8.0 or 7.0 and up range, rust (unless disintegrating) and writing (a name or something small) will not factor in. It's the extremes that matter. So if you had say a 6.0 book and it had 1/4" piece of tape on the interior cover for a small tear, it would probably just drop to 5.5, maybe 5.0. Same book with say 30c written on the back cover, that should not affect the grade at all. Stains are a different story altogether. Also depends on whether they are small water stains that you can only see on an angle, or ring stains and darker stains would drop the grade much more. Again, it depends on location. Inside covers will drop grade less than back cover which drops less than front cover. Foxing is considered staining, but unless really dark or the cover/book has a lot, wouldn't detract as much.
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6 hours ago, pemart1966 said:
I'm a bit confused. When does the amount of tape on a book start factoring in to the assigned grade? And what amount of tape causes the grade to go down?
High grade books will factor in immediately along with any type of stickers. It's when you get low grade it really doesn't matter. So if you had a completely split spine and the person puts a strip down the spine to re-attach it, as long as the book isn't totally destroyed, it will probably get a 1.0, not a 0.5. If your book is in 1.8 condition and there is a 1" piece of tape on say the inside back cover helping a tear, then the book will remain a 1.8 since that small piece of tape isn't really doing much to an already low grade book. Like I said, it depends on the size of the tape, where it's located, and how much of it is there to affect the grade.
For example, if you have like a 9.8 book, but someone decided to reinforce the spine with a strip of tape going down the full spine, you'd be looking at about a 4.0. Tape is never good regardless unless you have a tiny piece holding part of the cover from completely falling off and then having a chunk missing. I don't recommend using it.
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Marvel Silver 3rd wrap is the one that usually has ads/pinups. Ads are usually for future issues of titles coming out. People had a tendency of cutting out these future release comics I guess to pin them up on their wall. If you look at non-story pages missing on many graded silver books, page 12 is usually the culprit with page 3 sometimes, 3rd wrap completely sometimes (3/14), and then the letter pages afterwards. Not sure if there would be an easy way to check out qualified or 0.5 missing page marvel silver, but if you can do a search and find some examples, I guarantee 90% will be one of the instances I've mentioned.
12th page:
letters page:
14th page:
3rd page:
12th page:
12th page:
AND... you get what I mean.
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2 hours ago, The Lions Den said:
This is really a bummer. The only feedback I can give you is that I noticed the ASM #14 has "Cream to Off-White" pages (according to the CGC label). This usually indicates there is a fairly significant amount of yellowing or tanning to the pages, and likely the interior cover as well. If the cover is tanned even slightly, it tends to be more fragile, especially with books that are this old. Personally, I would not submit a book for pressing that has any tanning issues. I'm very sorry for what happened to your books, but from what I've heard, CCS will pre-screen books and reject the ones they don't feel are good candidates for pressing. I hope this helps in some way, and I wish you the best of luck with this situation...
Besides tanning, rusty staples don't help (not that this has rust). The rust eats the paper and staple pops are common.
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I read a decent amount of this post, but not all of it. Don't want to ruffle feathers, but what about comic books that don't contain any ads? Technically they could be sent media mail and the argument can be made there is no advertisements in the comic. Sort of like TPB and Graphic Novels. Most don't have ads.
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I could swear I saw a pre-Marvel horror book with a story that contained a Swamp Thing. I can't recollect which title though.
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2 hours ago, JollyComics said:
I have seen those books with green labels.
Examples? I have never seen any.
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28 minutes ago, JollyComics said:
No, I saw "P" under the grade. It was done by the professional. It has no chance to be upgraded to unrestored if subbed. Just leave it as is.
So then it should get a conserved if done by a professional. Like I said, call and ask.
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Anyone say Best Cellars #1?
https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=118751
I actually had one and sold it real cheap before I knew what it was. I thought I had a copy in my collection and sold the extra. Think I sold the only copy I had.
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On 4/11/2018 at 2:57 PM, Schmakt said:
Graphic Fantasy #1? (1st (Savage) Dragon)
Was just going to post this. HEHE. Decided to read through the thread. Some of the copies have 3 autographs, some have 4.
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Just now, comicdonna said:
The tape is factored into the grade. CGC's "new" stance is to consider tape a defect. In the "old days", this book would have received a higher grade.
Not necessarily true. If a book is lower grade and has just small tape, it does nothing to the grade. If it's say mid-grade, but the entire spine has a strip of tape, then it will factor in. It all depends on the severity and the grade of the comic without the tape.
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1 hour ago, comicdonna said:
I have to wonder if the book would get a higher grade if the tape was removed?
Tape looks fresh and probably not easily removed. Would probably result in tearing the cover. If the tape is only at the top of the spine, it's probably not factored into the grade.
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On 5/11/2018 at 4:19 PM, jaydog said:
I know Ultimate Spider-man vol.1 #1 issue is fairly valuable, but you dont have that issue.
Not sure about the rest. I just poked around eBay for 5 minutes and nothing stood out. I could be wrong you can always do more research. If you are happy with 200 then go for it. Here is a site that might give you some guidance. https://comicbookrealm.com/series/2226/0/ultimate-marvel-ultimate-spider-man-vol-1 It shows a few books going for a bit more but most people wont pay guide for collections, just single issues they want.
I don't know if I trust their prices. I've looked at some of their listings and they seem a bit high. Ultimate Spiderman used to be hot back in the day. The #1 will sell well, but like jay said, you don't have it. I find Ultimate Spiderman issues in dollar bins lots of times. I think the whole Ultimate title line has been played out.
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Yes, that is a remainder copy and the extra staples don't affect the grade at all.
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Ask them if this would get a conserved instead of restored. I think cleaning gets conserved, unless maybe it was done by an amateur. Conserved grade is much better than restored.
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Just now, ThothAmon said:
Very common for that issue to be missing the pin-up centerfold. I'm in the same boat when it comes to cut out coupons or ads. Seems like comics marketed to girls are especially susceptible to cut outs. Katy Keene and the like.
Yeah, those paper dolls are missing way too often.
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Last 2 sales with GPA averaged over $4700 with 2.0 copies. The slightly brittle pages would personally bother me as the book will only drop in grade much sooner than if it had higher quality pages. That 2.0 may turn into a 1.8 or lower in the future.
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I went to a store recently where the owners of the store and their customers kept thinking something was wrong because one of the graded books had the wedge and they thought there was something up with the CGC case. I gave your explanation and they finally got a few more books with wedges. Customers wouldn't buy the books because they thought it was a defect in the case.
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4 minutes ago, ThothAmon said:
I feel the OP pain. I've gotten a little more careful since my FF 5 came back .5 because a non story page was neatly removed. PLOD too (as a double whammy) as there was glue. CGC grades are like a box of chocolates ...
I used to go to shows and buy stuff all the time. I never thought about counting pages back then. I have thousands of silver age books that can possibly be missing pages. The latest item I had checked was my Batman 181 which was missing the centerfold. Eventually when I get the time, I'll go through each and every book and look for missing pages, coupons cut out, and restoration.
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You can't open that case without cracking it, so you'd see apparent damage to the plastic if it had been opened.