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yes, thanks, never in the basement, I have now a entire room in the house dedicated to my collection, dehumidifier etc. and yes, elevating is a good idea, close to the floor is dangerous, I lose around 50 vinyl records to store in the floor I learn the lesson! floors have humidity/mold, so the 1st floor of the shelve should be high, with the enough space to clean the floor under.

thanks, I'm going to search the thread, but I don't have access to that, my local store have Whitmor or Seville.

I need store my white boxes in shelves, so Whitmor vs Seville? which is better? https://whitmor.com/shelving/ https://www.sevilleclassics.com/shelving.html There's no problem in store comic boxes in shelves like that? I mean that silver material don't affect the boxes on long term, corrosion on the metal or something? I found some examples here to ilustrate the idea: https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/3434/page/1/store-rack-ideas/

the Netflix show will increase the price on Sabrina comics?

this box are plastic safe for comics??? (heat, acids, gas, smelly plastic, etc can damage paper!) they claims that are acid free but I just see normal pvc plastic, plastic is not good for comics.

But again, which tape or stickers WON'T leave residues after remove it? all removable tapes that I use leaves residues on the sleeve.

No problem I do my best learning english by myself. Reading comics helps!

that leaves residues if you remove the tape, maybe people that use normal tape is people that store the comic in the bag forever and never read the comic, I need tape or something that can be easy removable without leaves residues.

I buy that tape and I don't like it, why? leaves glue residues on the bag, I'm looking a tape or sticky that can be remove it without leave glue residues.

meh!!!... who cares! my native language is NOT english, I bet you got my point and understand me, make fun of me is unnecessary.

to everybody to call direct to EGerber to order, YOU GIVE THE CREDIT CARD NUMBER to that guys? very risky! or how you sent the money? even they don't have paypal, his site is old, no way to place orders, pay online etc. I can't believe that they ever think made a real ecommerce, it's 2018!!!

no offenses but I just see a plastic box... they say Acid Free bla bla, yeah ! right , a lot companies claims things like that "Archival Quality" and is not true, I just see a plastic box and even worse due looks like plastic with color like the plastic used to make cheap trash bins. Maybe yes the sizes specially for comics and stackable is nice but the problem to me is the material, I don't see any archival quality there.

about your cons: 1. yes well takes a little more room but by example those brand "really useful box" as you see in the pics is not too much, actually I like the extra space on the sides! of that way the comic not touch the sides of the box. 2. I think that I understand you, I think that "sliding" is because the floor is plastic, I think if you add a cardboard pad on the bottom not happens again due the cardboard on the bottom avoid the sliding, like a cardboard box. 3. "off-gasing from the plastic does to the books. I assume since the books are in archival grade bags that helps protects?" THAT'S BY BIGGEST QUESTION! I don't have that brand yet... (really useful box) I use Sterline Gasket Case boxes but I don't like due I see some "foggy" thing on.. I clean the boxes a lot but if I pass a finger I see a little fog on. Archivist always use real acid free boxes to storage documents, like this: https://www.archivalmethods.com/category/boxes they never use plastic, so maybe is for one reason! this looks interesting by the way, https://www.bagsunlimited.com/product/7981/archival-comic-storage-box-11-x-7-34-x-8font-colorredbr-holds-up-to-80-comicsfont-colorbrblue-gray-corrugated-cardboard

add 100 gram of silica gel inside the box to prevent moisture. take care with add to much silica, silica can down the humidity too much an freeze the paper.

Maybe I can find an answer here: There's any problem with storage comics in the REALLY USEFUL BOXES? instead cardboard boxes? 19 XL it seems the right size http://www.reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/usa/html/onlineshop/rub/b19_0litreXL.php really useful boxes are strong and squared and doubt that I have problem with water but in an accident can prevent water damages. anyone use plastics cases and no cardboard boxes? also cardboard cases can get insects and possible damage, you know is just cardboard. not my pic but helps:

Gaylord stuff is freaking expensive! I even more expensive for custom sizes. Maybe just museums can pay his prices.

anyone has tried this box: http://www.bagsunlimited.com/product/7981/archival-comic-storage-box-11-x-7-34-x-8font-colorredbr-holds-up-to-80-comicsfont-colorbrblue-gray-corrugated-cardboard

Actually is BETTER store a comic between TWO real acid free FullBacks like a sandwich and store that in a real paper conservation envelope/folder, yes! all storage between papers! not plastic. Again yes you can't see the cover but that's the real way to preserve paper and avoid damage for years, like posters, book collectors do, after all remember comics are MADE OF PAPER!!! are the same thing than posters, photos, books etc.

Read this about paper conservation: I hope the owners of this forum no band my comments due they don't they have a biz based on encapsule comics.

Many lough at me, here's another proof of the problem of storage paper in any kind of plastic sleeve. that is cause for the plastic cases and that can cause damage on paper, due the paper encapsule can't breath! that's the problem with storage paper in plastic sleeves, any serious archivist knows that. remember paper needs breath, acids on the paper are present, temperature and humidity also can freeze the paper etc. again the only way to truly protect a comic is storage in other profesional papers etc. but of course NOBODY like that because all want see the cover arts and have a number grade on the top, yes looks nice! but that's not the best way to protect paper.

Same method? or you're just bothering me? If it's true, my question is: you don't get any damage for use the plastic box? thanks.

thanks Jeff! I respond to you, but first to others that even make some jokes about where I live and so on... first I talk a lot humidity but that is beyond the topic, I even should't mention that but well is part of the whole thing. 1. First I want to be clear again, I'M NOT BLAMING MYLAR! (My Archivist contact does), I just saying! IN THE CASE that you have humidity problem like I had, the MYLAR or any plastic bag is not good because mold spores can destroy more fast the paper because the thing can't breath. I'm not saying "IF YOU USE MYLAR! you will get humidity", Is clear now?. 2. Now, yes! my archivist contact told me that any plastic like mylar, poly or any plastic is not the best for paper, is better use other papers for preservation of paper. I talk to him this week, I want a deeper response from him. 3. Like Jeff say, the humidity increase of decrease depends of the zone and depends of the month of the year, and that IS NOT GOOD FOR PAPER, the KEY is the humidity will stay constant, 45% to 55% is healthy for paper, so even that all make some jokes where I live if you don't keep the humidity in that range you can get humidity or dry on paper. (by the way I live in Costa Rica, humidity vary depends of the month or day hours, like in every part of the world). I check weather around some places, right now (just have in mind that humidity is always low INSIDE YOUR HOUSE vs the reports) by example right now: Costa Rica 75% (but inside my home the meter says 58%) Florida USA 66% Las Vegas 24% (wow yes! that is too low) New York 70% some of europe, berlin, italy, england, around 55% right now... 4. Show that numbers I want to show some test, some joking also about my double box approach + silica gel, I don't know why, maybe looks like overkill or something but come on! is just a plastic box + cardboard box + silica gel, that is and why? let's go to show some test numbers: a. Costa Rica weather right now is 75% (but inside my home the meter says 58%): 75% b. Humidity meter in my HOME and meter OUTSIDE the plastic boxes: 58% c. Humidity meter in my HOME and meter INSIDE the plastic boxes WITH SILICA GEL: 39% (yes! like you see the plastic box + silica gel KEEPS THE HUMIDITY IN 39%, depends of the silica quantity you can increase or decrease, that's great, so no matter what happen in my room or outside the room or no matter if it's winter or summer, the humidity is the same and constant due the plastic box + silica gel approach). That's the point, also plastic box prevent water, (I don't have any issue with water disasters but... helps). I found this pic online of a water disaster, OUCH! that hurts! maybe was because he vote for Hillary? LOL, no seriously poor collector Now maybe some say "why you use a cardboard box too?????" well is just because cardboard box is firm and all comics stay vertical, also I feel prevent that everything is in contact with the plastic box direct. 5. Jeff, yes I was too stupid and store comics in just cardboard boxes and mylar sleeves in the floor, with no dehumidifier, no silica, no plastic boxes... I bet that was my problem, so after 2 years I open that and sadly I found mold inside the mylar and foxing on paper of course :(, now with my new approach I expect don't have that issue anymore. Also yes! I even think that "mmm the plastic box is healthy, can cause more high temp or something, but the temp is the same inside the box and outside the box, also when I open the thing due the silica gel everything smell so fresh. 3 months has pass since and I still don't see any issue, I constant check, also I open the boxes constantly and put the dehumidifier, also I add air with a fan to move the air inside the boxes. 6. Is funny my sister also collect vinyl and books, in her room (same home) she store everything exposed in a shelves, no boxes, no mylar sleeves and all his stuff are ok! so yes I bet my issue was had everything in the floor during long time, but I bet that sleeves increase that damage, like I say due the things can't breath, in a humidity problem like that I feels sleeves are not good, (again IN THE HUMIDITY ISSUE, I don't saying or blaming mylar to cause humidity). 7. to conclude, I bet many here think that I do is overkill or something crazy... again is just a double box + silica, I bet a lot comics collectors don't care anything like that and just store everything in a box in the floor and that is, without any control of humidity. I think I'm not crazy, I made something like the Dry Box like photographers do for his cameras. Anyway if someone see an issue of my approach! please tell me, I open to ideas or improve. 8. For Bomber-Bob, I collect singles too, and I use gerber mylar sleeves + backings, see: 8. Last, I return later with a response of my archivist contact. thanks!

Thanks for ask! A recap of my methods to storage: In the past (Humidity Days) I just use BCW boxes but I stupidity put those boxes in the floor, around 2 years and I don't have any humidifier in the room, Comics are inside eGerber mylar + backings Gerber's. I not live in USA so the humidity is high around 70% 80% here. So yes sadly after 2 years I open the boxes and voila! mold around, spores of mold inside the gerber mylar etc, again I bet if I just not use any plastic the problem was be less. Again I'm not saying that mylar will cause the humidity but HOLDs more the humidity due is plastic. Make sense to me. Humidity is evil... can pass a sealed flap or anything! NOW! I do this: (of course I sent to trash all sleeves, those have a lot mold) 1. I buy a dehumidifier for the room, I use it around 2 per 3 hours per day and humidity goes to 40% in less than 30min. 2. I buy new BCW boxes http://www.bcwsupplies.com/cat/comic-book-storage/comic-box/comic-book-short-storage-box but! I do some test, I add a humidity meter inside the boxes EVEN with SILICA GEL and the humidity is the same Inside the box as a Outside, so the box of course not make any difference, the silica helps! but don't down the humidity to 45% to 55%. so! how can really down the humidity and keep it constant? here's the thing: 3. I buy plastic boxes from Gasket Box from sterilite to storage the cardboard boxes! (yes and box inside other box, is not an overkill and I explain why): http://www.sterilite.com/SelectProduct.html?id=802&ProductCategory=305&section=1 (The 32 Quart Gasket Box offers a gasketed seal to safeguard items from both air and moisture) they claims that but bla bla... but here's the real thing to really down and prevent the humidity: I add 200 gram of silica gel inside the plastic box. and add a humidity meter inside, and VOILA!!!! the humidity goes down to 45% to 55% (even you can play with that, depends of the quantity of silica, down or up). yes! with that plastic boxes + silica the humidity down, with JUST cardboard boxes the humidity DON'T down. also the boxes are not any more in the floor, I have a rack. HERE'S A REAL pics of the "double" box thing with silica etc: by the way, take care of the amount of silical, if you add to much, humidity can down too much and dry the paper! I think 45% to 55% is perfect for paper. NOW! I just think if sleeve everything again with mylar or make my own sleeves with preservation paper, due the archivist tell me, actually the say me something like this: "longterm, you should avoid any plastic contact not only with the vinyl but contact with any paper (comics) and cardboard as well, As long as the collectables are protected from accidental splashes of water etc. If you have good boxes you should get rid of the mylar, poly etc... they look great! yes! but they are really bad products for paper" I feel that now I even I use mylar or not, I never get humidity again, as you see I'm controlling everything with a meter, silica, boxes etc. thanks.

By the way, I MYSELF be amazed and I put on doubt at first what that expert say, I use mylar sleeves because of course things looks great, but after talk more with him, things start to make sense in favor of use just paper to storage and avoid any kind of plastic. Anyway I stop to replay until I show this to the archivist expert. Maybe I can learn something more of all this, because I my self wants continue use mylar sleeves, all looks great.

Read my previous replay, I respond the same thing to other member. To resume my previous response: "YES! I know that I had a humidity problem but thanks to that, I notice that Mylar Sleeves can HOLD more the humidity and spores inside, if I had use just paper I bet the damage will not be too much" for that reason I contact an archivist expert and he told me that any plastic on the paper, with humidity OR NOT HUMIDITY is NOT good for paper. Again, I contact again to he himself READ this and he respond. Last thing, Selling what??? I don't get it... I'm not selling anything. Is just a discussion.