trystero17

Serves me right for getting my hopes up. (Mind you, I didn't really. Because, you know, Dunning-Kruger.)

Which one is the correct one? Oh, so you mean they're arbitrary? (So, so close to a breakthrough...)

I mean, one of us has to be correct, right? That's how it works, isn't it?

I, for one, would love to be able to settle within my circle of friends, once and for all, objectively, whose taste in music is correct.

This would be the general substance of my objection, along with a plea for one to be developed to replace this current system of grade Yahtzee.

And that's the crux of it. "Getting it right," by what standard? Because you have to pick a standard. Because there IS no "objective standard." None. There never has been and never will be. All you can do is pick the arbitrary standard you're going to use, knowing full well that is IS arbitrary. Preferring one such arbitrary standard over another doesn't make either one correct or incorrect.

Exactly this. I... I just want to pour chocolate sauce on the irony here and eat it.

No no, I'm agreeing with you. Just articulating it poorly. Yes, Elf was saying different companies grade differently (which, as you point out, is at least debatable), but also that the way CGC does is "incorrect"... which to me implies that there's some sort of objectively "correct" grading standard independent of whatever an individual company happens to do.

Maybe that guy is "objectively incorrect," too? It's a shame, isn't it, that we don't all have unclouded apprehension of the Platonic ideal of these grades, which evidently precede CGC's flawed attempts to implement them?

Except... they don't write the grading guidelines. Where are these guidelines that you're referring to? The only ones I've ever seen on the CGC site are broad definitions of each grade. The only detailed grading guidelines I can think of offhand are the Overstreet standards, and CGC doesn't use those. If I'm mistaken and CGC has published a detailed set of rules for the way they grade, I'd love to see them, so by all means share. If they did, though, I can't imagine that they would note 3.0 as a maximum for Marvel chipping, because I've seen many slabbed 5.0's with Marvel shipping comparable to that Hulk issue. Hell, I could dig up a few images of 5.0's of that exact Hulk issue with more or less the same amount of Marvel chipping. Even a 5.5 or two with a bit less. (Now if only I hadn't fussed so much over the Marvel chipping that I completely missed the reading crease...)

Count me in if there's room!