Steve Evans

I know I recently posted a lot of questions. But This might be the last thing.

I want to know that is newton ring or not

10 hours ago, Tony S said:

The book does not have "pressed areas" where the Newton rings (I prefer prism effect) are at. That optical distortion is just from two pieces of plastic (the inner well and outer well) touching each other. There is no pressure or pressing on the book itself. 

The spots you mention are tiny printing imperfections. Many a book has a few imperfections in printing.  9.8 is very high grade - but it's not perfect. There are two grades higher. 

I'm not sure why you keep asking about sending in the book without the label. As others have said, there is nothing to be gained from that.  The label is also sealed inside the holder and would be a fair amount of effort to get out. The case would be all busted up when done and if you are not experienced opening the case you might well damage the book. 

9.8 (Near Mint/Mint) is a "split" grade. The grade is in-between NM+ (9.6) and Mint (9.9/10) Not NM+ or Mint. NM/M 9.8  Right in the middle.  There are several other split grades. Good/Very Good (3.0) Very Good/Fine (5.0) Fine/Very Fine (7.0) and Very Fine/NM (9.0) 

You know what? I gently pressed my CGC case where Newton Rings exist to check that these are really Newton Rings.

Then, the action that I behaved to check can damage my book?(I gently pressed diffrent areas about 10 times)

1 hour ago, Fiddy said:

So then why are you asking about "without label"?

Because I'm wondering that kind of situation.

1 hour ago, Fiddy said:

Have you removed the label?

nope

npoe

9 minutes ago, namisgr said:

Send the book back in its current slab for reholdering, if you wish to get rid of a wavy interior holder, and it will receive the same grade, provided the slab hasn't been tampered with.

This should conclude your quest for knowledge regarding this one comic.  Be sure to let us know when you buy your second slabbed book.

Yeah but I'm asking 'without label', Is that possible enough for my CGC to be graded lower than 9.8 just because of Pressed areas which caused by Newton Rings?

8 minutes ago, namisgr said:

This was already answered in another of your threads about this one comic.  The answer now is the same, namely that your comic did not grade 10.0 mint, and so has one or a few very minor defects.  These are in addition to any production issues, such as the color spots in your book in the C, P, and A of the title.

Okay then you say that's okay!

Then what about question1??

1 hour ago, Tony S said:

I am only going to respond in this thread as it is the one with pictures. Your other thread has more comments, but no pictures.  My short answer there is nothing "wrong" with your book/it's encapsulation in the CGC holder

This is a Generation 2 slab with the inner holder. This slab does not have a risk of causing waves in the books. 

It is really hard to tell from the pictures, but I believe the book is the way it was printed and it's a 9.8. Most new comic books right out of the box from Diamond do not lay flat. A friend has a comic book store here in town. I go in on Wednesdays (new comics arrive) and am there just to talk to people about getting their books graded and encapsulated (I have a Dealer Account). People - and the store owner - will oftentimes want to get  brand new comics sent to CGC.  We go through the stack looking for the best copies. I'm amazed at just how wavy and bent most new issues look.  I believe it is a result of thin but glossy coated paper stock and the over saturation of ink. But whatever the reason, the books don't lay flat. Brand new, out of the box. 

Because this is the way the books were printed - it's a printing defect, not from handling - the grading companies tend to give it a pass. We sent in dozens of copies of this particular book back when it was screaming hot.   Most had some degree of waviness to them.

If you want to send it this book in for a reholder, the cost is $15 plus return shipping. Reholders MUST BE SHIPPED TO CGC IN THE SLAB. If sent in as a reholder the book will only be put in a new holder - it will not be regraded, it will be a 9.8. If you take the book out of the holder (which is rather difficult - I would not recommend it to someone new to CGC slabbed books) and send it back to CGC it will be regraded. It may or may not stay at 9.8.

I believe your book is fine and it would be a waste of time and money to send it back in. Just enjoy it.  Or sell it and buy another copy with the money if it bothers you. 

Okay, Thank you for answering my question!

And I have two more questions

(Remember that my grade is 9.8 currently)

1. The case which released in that time, There are many Newton Rings and I have those either. And Newton Rings mean that my comic book has been pressed by inner and outer case. Then If I remove the label which tells the grade and serial number and send it to CGC for regrading, Is that possible enough for my CGC to be graded lower than 9.8 because of Pressed areas which caused by Newton Rings?

2. My grade is 9.8 currently and 9.8 means Near Mint or Mint right? But there are black spots and yellow spots on my comic book! Do they can exist at 9.8 graded comic book? (I uploaded sample images)

11 hours ago, Tony S said:

If you send the book in for a reholder, it has to be in the slab. A good condition slab. If you send the book out of the slab - label or no - it will be regraded.   Your grade might change. 

Send it in for a reholder in the slab.  If this is a Generation 2 slab with no inner holder, then they will reholder into the new Generation 2 slab with an inner holder at no cost. 

Then, you say Pressed and Bent situation affects 'the grading process' enough to downgrade under 9.8??

39 minutes ago, Tony S said:

From your pictures it's hard to tell much of anything. Post up pictures of the front and back. 

Here you are

I have one CGC so I didn't know much about CGC.

So I'm gonna ask you guys..!

If you see the pictures, You can see my comic book inside CGC case is slightly bent!!

What happened?? Is that normal? or that's error??

9 hours ago, 1Cool said:

My understanding is they simply reslab the book to the new slab and out of the older new slab without a regrade.

Okay, Then what if I send my comics without the label which tells the CGC's grade and certification number? 

Pressed and Bent situation affects the grading process??

If so, is there any possibility of getting a grade below 9.8??(Except Pressed and Bent situation, other conditon is exactly the same before regrading, which is 9.8 condition)

42 minutes ago, 1Cool said:

Moot point since you should have already sent back the old/new slab and had CGC recase the book already.  The newton ring is really not fixable but the newest slab does not seem to have that much to be a problem from what I have seen.

Okay, I understand!

Then, what about the grading? Is there any possibillity of downgrading becasue of 'Pressed and Bent situation' caused by 'Newton Rings and Wave Damages'?

Suppose that my CGC have 'Newton Rings' and 'Wave Damage', then, I send my CGC for recasing it.

And ,you know, 'Newton Ring' is caused by the inner and outer layer of plastic coming into contact and it gives the appearance of an oily effect and 'Wave Damage'means my book is bent. right?

Then, Because my CGC has 'Newton Rings', my book has been pressed and Because My CGC has 'Wave damages',  my book has been bent! right? 

Then, is there any possibillity of downgrading becasue of 'Pressed and Bent situation' caused by 'Newton Rings and Wave Damages'?

I bought a 9.8 CGC. But I noticed something not cool. 

Firstly, there is a black mark on captain america(Steve Rogers)'s shield section on my 9.8 CGC!

Secondly, there is a weird 'yellow spot' on 'C'section on my 9.8 CGC!

Is it really possible to get 9.8 grade with these issues?