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I recently purchased a CGC graded comic I've been wanting for years, Giant-Size X-Men #1 (7.0). Unfortunately, I received a cracked case after being told there were no cracks present at the time of sale (see included photo). It's housed in one of those thicker older cases from 2009. I'm not sure if I should send it in for a reslab it or leave it as is. What are your thoughts?

4 hours ago, ThothAmon said:

My personal preference is 14 but here are a few that have been mentioned. 

If these are your copies, they are beautiful! 

4 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

Like I said, large variance in wraps and cuts between copies.

Look at the greenish bystander next to the staple on the spine. He basically isn't visible on the other copy because he's wrapped to the back cover.

It looks like the two copies you posted have opposite diagonal miscuts on the right edge.

You think CGC can perfectly detect trimming? That's cute.

Do you think I should treat this one as an unrestored copy? Not sure what to consider it as.

2 hours ago, pemart1966 said:

Always buy the highest grade with the best page quality - always.  If you can't afford to buy the best then save until you can.

Makes perfect sense. My Giant is graded at 7.0. I waited awhile for that one.

7 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

12. Juggernaut done right, with his origin, on the big screen would be awesome...plus the book hasn’t gone loco yet.

I found some online graded at 7.0 and 7.5 for around $400 to $500. Why do the newer cases sell cheaper than the older ones? 

7 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

12. Juggernaut done right, with his origin, on the big screen would be awesome...plus the book hasn’t gone loco yet.

Besides being his first appearance, the cover is so awesome looking! I love how Angle is drawn.

2 hours ago, Philflound said:

There seems to be a lot of space on the bottom before printing, so the bottom may be ok. Right edge to me doesn't look good and I can't tell the top. Thing is, most Silver Age had overhang on the cover, so it's possible the cover is trimmed but not the pages.  Sorry, can't help you without it being in hand. Maybe someone else has an opinion.  You should probably send it in to be graded and find out for sure.

Sending it for grading is not a bad idea, I paid a decent amount for the book. Can you send just one book? If so, how much is it?  I’m assuming this question was asked many times before, but I read some mixed information. The CGC website says you need to upgrade your memebership to submit, however, I read somewhere that you can get sponsored by a recognized dealer and send it in without upgrading.

15 minutes ago, Mr bla bla said:

#11 first stranger

Unfortunatly, I purchased an unslabbed copy that appears trimmed. The cover is noticeably angled and the edges are slightly lighter in color.

12 hours ago, Obi-Wan said:

Ok I know something about stored books with rust.

You got alot of responses some right some wrong but here's the thing.

It's hard to say "right/wrong" with this example. 

Rust means presents of moisture and if the moisture is still in the paper and it may...then rust will continue to migrate faster when encapsulated for obvious reasons.

There is a possibility the rust was old or from many years ago stored in an attic with moisture-and since then has been open and breathing for a bit in a cool dry environment  and the current presents of moisture is very low.

There's no way of knowing unless you owned the book since the 60's.

The presents of moisture cannot be detected by "feel" unless saturated...and believe it makes all the difference with encapsulated books.

To sum it up, if the book is not rare, it’s not worth the time or money?

14 hours ago, joeypost said:

How extensive is the rust?

The notes didn’t mention anything more than rusted staples and the photos don’t show a good angle to tell.

16 hours ago, Philflound said:

Your book definitely looks short on the right edge and top/bottom. It doesn't look good, but without it in hand, I can't say for sure. Does the whole edge look very white compared to the page color?

I took some photos of the cover and page edges. Can anyone tell if it’s been trimmed?

It is quite an eyesore in its bag/board.

11 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I've always loved the cover to #50, and #58 (Neal Adams Havok cover) is another good choice.

If you want to go Bronze Age, #94 and #101 would be good targets.  Plus Giant-Size X-Men #1, of course.

I recently picked up a Giant-Size #1. I was looking at #94, but I’m not sure what would be a decent grade for this issue. Do I settle for a 7.5 or do I spend more for an 8.5?

Thanks!

On 11/21/2017 at 3:57 PM, Bomber-Bob said:

While 15.00 sounds cheap, the biggest cost of getting a book reslabbed is the shipping charges both ways. I think all of you are being silly. 1st, it is perfectly normal for the book to move around slightly. It actually safeguards the book from damage. You need that wiggle room. 2nd, you may get it reslabbed only to have the same problem. There is also the risk of handling, shipping type damage to the book . Save your money and spend it on new books !

Good to know. I was not sure if the movement was a defect. Thanks for the info!

I collect mainly unslabbed Silver Age The X-men (Uncanny) and would like to invest in a graded one. However, I'm not sure which one to purchase. Is there a specific issue out there that I should own graded, other than issue 1? 

I'm glad I consulted with everyone here before making an ignorant decision. I'm going to pass on this graded book, especially since the asking price is over $800. 

I compared my copy to another online and you can see more of Jean’s hair and less of Angel’s wings in the one I own (the Angel above the X-Men title). However, the purple truck on the right edge is missing compared to the online image. You can see the cover slant with mine too.

On 11/18/2017 at 8:34 PM, Philflound said:

Most pages will have nubs along the edges, so checking for those along with there should be nubs on the covers. If it's really amateur you'll see jagged cuts, but watch for Marvel chipping as that could be deceiving. Also, aged books, ones with off-white or cream pages should also have darker page edges so if they look solid white, that could also be a sign. 

Measuring and comparing is probably not going to help much, but I would personally look at the art on the cover. If a cover say has a character's feet almost toward the bottom, look at the top and see how far the title logo is away from the top. Logic should tell you that the art would shift meaning the closer the feet to the bottom, the further the title should be from the top and vice versa. If the feet are close to the bottom and the title seems closer to the top, then possibly the top/bottom has been trimmed. Hope I wasn't too confusing.

I never thought to check the edge for color discrepancies. Also, the art shift makes complete sense. Two really good suggestions!

Thank you everyone for your input, it is greatly appreciated.

48 minutes ago, Tbone911t said:

Not a rare book. I would pass personally.

I do see a lot of them online and they are pricey. Rusted staples sound like it a problem long-term but then again, I'm not too familiar with what blemishes to avoid.

Hey Everyone,

Pondering whether or not to purchase a Silver Age CGC graded book 7.0, Uncanny X-Men 2. The grader notes mention "light cover break colors, light creases, and multiple staple rusted."

What are your thoughts on rusted staples? Is this going to be an issue later down the road? 

I have the same issue with a 2006 slab that I recently purchased off eBay. It moves slightly when turned upside down. I wish I knew more, but I’m not experienced with graded books. 

I’ve purchased a few Silver Age comics in the past and I was wondering if there are ways to tell if a comic had been trimmed other than sending it to CGC?

Some of the ones I own have either a very slight angle to them or are straight but have part of an image missing compared to other comics; e.g. Uncanny #11, top of Angel’s wings are clipped, no pun intended.

On 11/13/2017 at 8:39 PM, rogue14 said:

I actually have two different books with the same issue right now, I’m thinking of getting them reslabbed.

How much is it to reslab? I’m assuming it will come back in the newer slab regardless of what slab it was originally encased in correct?

19 minutes ago, rogue14 said:

I had a similar book with the same issue, and I was told that it had to do with the size of the comic and the older cases. You could always get it reslabbed.

I actually have two different books with the same issue right now, I’m thinking of getting them reslabbed.

It is a modern age comic (late 80s) in the slab that was prior to the new thick ones.

Hi Everyone,

New to owning a CGC graded comic that I recently acquired online. However, I noticed that the comic plastic bag/holder inside the slab moves a little bit when I turn it upside down. Is this common or should it be a tight fit?

Thanks!