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Thanks Jennifer!

Hi - I have a PGX graded book I'd like to submit for the Milgrom signing. Do I have to crack it out of the slab and prep it first or can I send it as it?

Ok thanks. This would be for torpedo con in LA for the Jim lee signing. They have cgc listed as a vendor, but they might not count as a “con”. Jim Lee will be there, but I want Scott’s sig on a few too. So I want to submit those books to cgc there, and bring a few different ones for Jim to sign at the con. That’s the masterplan anyway.

HI,

Can I submit my comics for a private signing at a local con?

Thanks!

3 hours ago, Jennifer F. said:

Generally, a dry cleaning would not result in a conserved grade as there is no chemicals used.  We perform a dry cleaning on all books that go through pressing and they don't receive a conserved label.  Dry cleaning just removes minor things like dirt, pencil marks, etc.  Certainly, if it was done improperly or excessively, then that could result in a difference.

Thanks!

Ok, thanks again Jennifer. Thats what I figured and that makes sense to me.

6 hours ago, joeypost said:

Bad dry cleaning will not result in a PLOD or conserved label. It WILL result in a lower grade if the person doing the cleaning has cement hands. 

Done right (and that includes a whole lot of variables) it should not immediately be visible to the naked eye.

Yeah, that seems to be consensus. Some folks can be insistent though! I appreciate the insight. 

16 hours ago, Jennifer F. said:

Good morning,

Thanks for your message. It would really depend on the condition of the book.  The Conservation grade is used when repairs have been professionally done to a book.  These repairs can include tear seals, support, staple replacement, piece reattachment and certain kinds of cleaning. Because all Conservation repairs must be professionally done and slight in nature, the label will simply say "Conservation" with no designation of quality or quantity on the label as you would see in a Restoration label. 

Thanks!

Hi Jennifer,

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate your insight. One quick follow-up if its alright: When you say "certain kinds of cleaning", could that ever include just a standard dry cleaning (no chemicals or solvents)? Like, if it were badly done or done excessively, to the point the grader could easily detect it. Could that be considered restoration, if not conservation? 

1 hour ago, GPCEE said:

If you're that worried then don't clean it  

Cleaning and pressing are not mandatory

Im not worried. I just want to know. Its come up in discussion on other forums and I'm just trying to get a straight answer one way or the other. I did ask CGC too so maybe I will get my answer. 

7 hours ago, Angel of Death said:

I'm not sure that dry cleaning can even be detected.

It can though. Poorly executed cleaning can leave eraser scuff, scuffed staples, obviously missed areas of the book. Those things can affect the grade obviously, but can they lead to a conserved or restored label is basically my question.

2 hours ago, Tony S said:

No. CGC determined the book was solvent cleaned.  

Ok, thanks for clarifying. 

Hi,

This question came up in a comic book cleaning group I'm in: are there any circumstances where a completely chemical-free cleaning can lead to a conserved grade? There is some conflicting thought on this. It would be great to get to the bottom of it.

If a comic is dry cleaned to the point it causes certain inconsistencies between the appearance of the cover of the book and the appearance of the comic, could that cause a conserved or restored grade? This is the book in question. Could a chemical-free cleaning have caused this?

I purchased a couple slabs from comiquero and they arrived quickly and without incident. I would recommend this seller. Thanks again comiquero!

8 minutes ago, fastballspecial said:

Batman 497 Newsstand Edition NM 9.4 - $17.50
Notice no black overlay

Ill take it

1 hour ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said:

Ha.  I definitely been slacking.  Do you have any CGC graded 2000 AD progs?  Is the size too weird for them?  I also haven’t posted any Skizz.  I’ll have to rectify that.

CGC doesnt grade progs at the moment. They do grade reprints in standard comic format (the old Eagle comics reissues for example) but not the original progs. That could change though. About a year ago CGC opened an office in the UK, so hopefully that translates to them looking for local market opportunities and grading 2000AD would be good one, even though I could also see why it would be complicated comic to grade and slab.  I think if they can find a way to make money doing it, they will. But that's just my speculation at the moment. Anyway, if that does happen, we'll both be happy we got our collections when these were affordable and easy to find!

This thread has been up since May and no Halo? The travesty. Well, here she is in all her mid-80's glory, as only the great Ian Gibson could draw her. Better late than never.

Forget the cat videos my mom is sharing on facebook, this post is easily the most entertaining thing on all of the internet right now.

For anyone that want to see the finished version, Jock put a picture up of the tec 880 reprint on his instagram.  Hope I didnt step on any toes, but the preview image doesnt do it justice.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnD78gWHChQ/?taken-by=jock4twenty

2 hours ago, BeachBum said:

Detective Comics #880 Black Foil Exclusive

$50 raw NM+ or better

$110 CGC 9.8 Fast Tracked

(20 available) 18 LEFT!

Take one CGC 9.8 fast track.  Thanks!

23 hours ago, joeypost said:

Marvel Graphic Novel #4 CGC 9.4 White Pages

$175.00

 via PM

One other thing, beware of FOMO: Fear Of Missing Out.  At the end of the day is the root cause of just about any asset bubble.  I can assure you, you aren't missing out.  Just ask anyone who paid 7,8, or 9 hundred dollars for an Ultimate Spider-man #1 back in 2005.  

I don't think its a bubble in the comic book market in general, its more like a foam or froth. Some titles and types of comics are definitely overvalued and oversaturated. Anything related to a movie or TV show currently out or coming out soon definitely seems pricey, and the recent variant craze seems exhausted.  Individual issues can heat up and cool down seemingly overnight.  Collectible comic books in general are expensive, but so are all types of assets: houses, stocks, fine art, and all manner of appreciable assets are expensive. But this is driven more by macro-economic trends than anything specific to do with comic books.  Interest rates are low, consumptive spending is down, the economy is doing well and people and companies are flush with cash to invest into things. I wouldn't say we are seeing a market-wide speculative bubble like we saw in the 90's.  My advise: go slow, don't overextend yourself. Look for value in-between the bubbles of the foam.