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I have a Detective Comics #35 back cover (Hypo needle cover)  and a Batman #1 1940 trimmed back cover, both can be seen on Ebay. I need a Batman#1 page one complete with all art or a Superman #1 centerfold and would take either in trade for the #35 back cover or 1 or the other as part trade for the Batman #1 back cover.

It has the correct back cover, just not the one matching that exact front, meaning it likely came off an Action Comics #12 which is all the same ie. same Johnson Dept # etc. If as I suspect, one of the big dealers bought it though ... no worries ... it will magically match now when restored / conserved! ... No stinkin married labels for us!

$221,777 ... good lord ... I guessed $125,000.

There is another Action #1 origin page on Ebay trimmed ... I did a double take when I saw the listing's $60k OBO price ... who knows now though ?!?

Those sold for multiples less than the bid already ... don't ask ... I won't say, but you can probably find mention of the covers around facebook somewhere if you search and ask the seller. The owners dad had put them away in the 80's I guess and passed away and his son dug them out with a coverless Action #10 and #13 a Wonder Woman #1 coverless and other stuff. He had sold some stuff to this same current seller ( I assume ) prior and I suspect he may have sold a coverless Action #12 and kept and matched the back cover to this Det #27 front not knowing since he isn't really a collector.... thus the right back cover, just married from an Action #12. I tried to buy / trade for these covers, but it was a deal where this seller was talking to a buyer and the buyer was his best buddy in the world now type of thing lol. I don't beg and grovel to buy stuff so in the cut throat world of expensive comic stuff I usually just miss out. None of it is really that rare or awe inspiring for me regardless of being able to afford stuff or how cool it is. I won't run stuff up to get it or whatever or help others price their books by being an insufficiently_thoughtful_person. That being said, of-course I would have liked to have gotten them to hold onto as I will never buy a complete Action #1 or Detective #27 just for the amount of money I would have to tie up in something like that that could do other things. I'm going to guess they go for $125,000

I tried to buy this off of facebook about a year ago the guy had it advertised as being a cover that his dad had kept, with a coverless action #10 and coverless wonder woman #1 and some other stuff. He said he ended up selling it to a "true collector" ... I said yea ... it will be for sale somewhere married to a book or by itself, within a year ... I am never wrong!

The kind of stuff I love, congrats on your awesome find! To me personally, if you marry it to an interior and it's all original parts combined, it's way less expensive to own and looks great! Good luck in whatever you choose to do with it!

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Would consider trades / partial trades and cash for ...

Nice front covers for Action Comics #7 #10 and #13

Batman #1 front cover and first wrap

Nice covers and centerfold for Batman #3

Superman #1 decent covers and centerfold.

Whiz #1 with front cover or covers set

Superman #2 coverless complete nice or complete front cover

Superman #3 clean complete back cover

On 3/6/2022 at 8:20 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

I don’t get it with Clink. They list a book for a million bucks, but don’t give a back cover. 

Yea, it's nuts ... the 3.0 the other day auctioned was a prime example as to the difference from front to back!

New 7.0 just listed at $995,000 on Comic Link exchange ... that should get that .5 to $85,000 ... good lord!

On 3/5/2022 at 12:54 AM, Gotham Kid said:

here you go mate, this is what the book started out as ...

The Meyers shocked the collecting community by holding back and not going all the way to 10.0

They have also produced a Batman 1 9.6, Detective 31 9.6, Incredible Hulk 1 9.8, etc...

They got into a legal tussle with CGC a few years back cause they wouldn't grade their garbage.

 

Exactly, would be curious to see what the original book looked like.

On 1/30/2022 at 10:28 PM, Aman619 said:

Profits on the sales of comicbooks are taxed as at the higher capital gains rate: 28%. Plus the 3.8 surcharge related to the AFA.  Doesn’t matter if short term or long term gains.   Only the gains, profits, is taxable.  Therefore you state what your cost basis was and use it to calculate your profit, for each item sold. Certain expenses can also be added to your costs, like shipping.  But storage and storage materials would be allowable only as a fraction of the number of items in your collection.  Meaning if you bought 100 mylars, you could add the cost of one mylar and backing board.  Similarly you can add the slabbing and pressing fees.  Plus shipping, also on a fractional basis: FedEx it 25 slabs for $38 means you’d get to add 38/12 to your cost basis too.  You don’t have to prove what you paid… but as was the case here, if the IRS questions you, you’ll have to show a receipt.  If you can’t, they will say you paid nothing, unless your accountant is skilled at negotiating IRS audits.  

that’s for collectors.  If you are a dealer, operating as a business, the rules are different.  

It is up to 28% max, not 28% ... it's progressive at the regular tax brackets rates up to 28% max and then stops and then the 3.8 possibly.

On 1/28/2022 at 11:31 AM, rjpb said:

Probably only the larger dealers use the inventory method of accounting, and it would be tough to prove that "personal collection" purchases aren't inventory if one is routinely selling books in their possession. I was thinking more of the collector and sometimes seller who will now may get a 1099 for the comic they sell for $5K in order to fund the purchase of something else, but will have booked a $4K profit on what they sold, even though all proceeds were just plowed into a different book. Now they will have to consider taxes paid on the gain, as well as potential auction and payment fees when considering the sale in order to fund their collecting. You might see more cash only deals on the DL, or straight up trading as a result. 

The good ole days again ... maybe? ... I personally hope that this brings more people back to flea markets and comic and toy shows for in person selling and trading, but we'll see.

On 12/16/2021 at 6:57 PM, Daveb25 said:

🚀  Batman 1 in all parts, pieces, incomplete and complete copies has officially blasted off. 

... shhhhhhhhhh ... still working on mine ... and so I must  declare ... "BATMAN #1 is KRAP"

Hey everyone, I am currently looking for ......

Batman #1 ... I need the first inside wrap... I would take page #1 and #32 split separately as well if the complete artwork is present on pages.

Superman #1 ... I am in need of both covers and a centerfold.

Action Comics ... I especially need decent front covers for ... #7 ... #10 ... and #13

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I currently have for trade, the following.

Batman #1 trimmed back cover $7500 trade value

Adventure Comics #36 missing 2 pages and back cover.  $700 trade value

Superman #3 loose leaf pages trimmed out of bound volume, all pages present. $750 trade value

Action Comics #25 coverless and missing centerfold  $250 trade value

Superboy #1 CGC .5 restored trimmed low grade no centerfold  $1100 trade value

All Select #10 ... missing centerfold $1000 trade value

On 12/8/2021 at 12:39 AM, Professor K said:

I've been dying to jump in but I can't think of anything good to say. 

It's getting pricey and disheartening, for sure. I have resigned myself to owning restored for most stuff now. Just keeps climbing!

On 12/8/2021 at 6:22 AM, lhcomics said:

At these prices I'll never own a 3rd copy. 

Greedy ... remove one of the first wraps and send it to me! I am old and won't be alive much longer ... Well maybe another 20 or 30 years ... But still.😂

So around 6 weeks ago I got lucky and traded for a back cover pin-up at the Kane County Toy show and thought WOW incredible luck! Now fast forward to this Saturday and I had the good fortune of finding these via a Facebook post and followed up and purchased them yesterday. The seller said that her Dad was born in 1928 and still had these from when he was a kid and she was now selling them for him. So I either have no Batman covers ... or...  too many Batman covers ... good problem to have!

Kenny Sanderson is currently working on my pinup I previously posted here to restore the border and get it back to complete, so I will likely marry that back to this front, since this front has obvious missing artwork needing recreated as well anyway. I know many despise restoration and that's fine, I am personally fine with it if it's well done. I know many would leave the chunky front unmolested and this back cover split and married to an interior but I dislike the missing piece chunky look though. I am assuming Kenny's work would be be reversible anyway. The way I see it a married covers and first wrap green label 1.0 or a nicely restored 2.0 or 3.0 in appearance is a wash anyway value-wise. Interested in other's thoughts?

So now, I am down to needing a first wrap ... so if anyone would be interested in possibly selling the first wrap please contact me. Or if I do go the route that this newly acquired back cover is available, I would maybe take cash and a first wrap as part trade. *** for sure nothing is set in stone, I have to see what Kenny's thoughts are on my current plan. ***

Anyway keep the faith, parts still show up as unlikely as it seems. I do a lot of searching too, but still I am amazed. Thanks!

On 11/28/2021 at 9:51 PM, Professor K said:

Oh man. Yeah I saw it went up and down a few times in the last hour or two. I've said before there should be a cap on brand new e bay accounts, like 100 dollars at least for 48 hours or something. Its happened to me a few times over the years but never for this much money. If someone has ZERO feedback I usually try to contact them and if they don't reply in a day I block them, but when its last minute like that ain't much you can do. Why someone would take the time to create an account just to sabotage auctions I have no idea. By the way I've bought a few things from you over the years, you have some real nice stuff. 

Yes, agree they could easily institute some kind of graduated cap or make you pay some sort of deposit etc ... They just do not care overall.

On 11/28/2021 at 8:27 PM, Action252Kid said:

This was my listing.  With a few hours to go, at least five new to eBay (as in, signed up 'today'), zero feedback bidders started running the price up.  One of them ended up winning, and I'm assuming this will go unpaid.  The reason the price dropped down was because eBay kicked one of the bidders off of the site (but let the others stay on there, go figure).  I have sold pages like this many times in the past without this happening, so I'm not sure why this auction in particular was targeted like this, but it's incredibly frustrating to deal with.

That's why I never auction items on Ebay. I just list my items BIN at maybe a bit higher than I expect to sell for and work my way down over a few weeks or months. Anyone buying has to pay immediately that way. I know you sell all the time with an auction format, so obviously it works for you overall, but yea, no protection at all from zero feedback bidders. It's a shame that Ebay hasn't figured out a solution to this yet after all of these years.

On 11/17/2021 at 11:38 AM, LDarkseid1 said:

This copy selling again will be a good barometer now. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/936043

Yep, that's a weird bird ... I almost prefer it totally coverless and the origin page showing as odd as that sounds. Just the mix of reprint and real is annoying to me even though it's more complete. It will probably sell well though.

On 11/15/2021 at 12:20 PM, LDarkseid1 said:

Closest copy I could find was this Ebay sale recently. It wasn't a no-reserve auction, which I tend to believe is the true indication of what something is worth. Just my feeling, but still, roughly $18K for a copy missing the first 2 wraps and centerfold. My best guess is a nice presenting, coverless complete copy would go for as high as the $25K-$30K range. But in the world we live in with insane sales routinely, who knows, maybe more.

This was my extra copy. I had priced it higher and worked my way down over a few weeks. I think it went for a fair price for what is there and the page quality being nice. Also, factoring in sales tax on these books for a buyer now it was closer to $19,000. I believe a coverless complete just sold for $19,000 + tax recently with married pages, but don't recall where I saw it? I feel a complete unmarried coverless would be around $25,000 with nice pages. I figure in addition to the origin wrap and centerfold the two next best pages are the Action #1 and Action #7 homage pages. I figure the Action #1 page should be $5k alone if nice, if the real Action #1 car page is a $15k page now at auction. Just my 2 cents.

On 10/25/2021 at 4:34 PM, Miamiknight3434 said:

This is so cool. Congratulations @Monsters-n-heroes

Thanks it was a pretty neat find for a mainly toy show!