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6 hours ago, Pontoon said:

Unless your local presser is CFP, CSS, Hero Restoration, Susan Ciccone or someone of that caliber, I would be very hesitant to take such a high value book to the proverbial local guy who presses comics, especially if it's your grail.

Thanks for the tip! I follow the comic doctor in Ontario Canada, he is a certified shipper to CGC and is very reputable with samples of his work on his feed including many grails several Hulks and Golden Age Batman etc. Either way i’m still nervous sending it anywhere!! 

6 minutes ago, Point Five said:

Whoops, looks like I was 100% wrong. Sorry about that! I thought there was some rust transfer in the original centerfold photo, but it must be the staples casting funky shadows there or something. My bad.

Beautiful book; only real issue would be the structural bottom corner dent. I'll say 6.5/7.0 range as is but could certainly press a bit higher.

No worries, that's why we're here. All feedback is appreciated. I didn't post the best pics at first. I just contacted a local comic presser/cleaner. Should clean that corner up nicely! I'll keep you posted! 

17 minutes ago, Spawn1709 said:

Best of luck! 

Thank You!!

31 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Tell them to take their time with it. The results may be better to moderately press it twice rather than to aggressively press once!

Will do, thanks again!

4 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Once cleaned, it's well suited for pressing and will benefit from it.

Cheers! I'll keep the forum posted, should be a few months

6 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

No. No rust at all. The close up reveals the absence of rust. Just a normal, mild coat of surface oxidation coating the outside, giving that grey appearance, but the paper is clean and the rusting process is absent.

Good to know, thanks again! My naive opinion tells me this book is higher than a 5.0 or 6.5 as others kindly suggested. Especially after a press and clean? Thoughts anyone?

1 hour ago, James J Johnson said:

Yes they do appear to be, but for lack of a better image to tell for sure, I'm going only by the owner's assessment that they aren't rusted.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here are some better photos of the book, I rushed the earlier pics. Perhaps one of you could clarify if these are rusty staples or not

No they are not, not in my opinion anyways...

34 minutes ago, Spawn1709 said:

Probably around a 7.5. Nice book though!

Thanks! I was thinking the same, hoping for an 8 or more at best

Looking for grading opinions on my holy grail 

slight discloration in bottom right corner of cover from improper storage. A few small spine cracks, a couple slightly blunted corners and a small dent on cover and back that i’m sure could be pressed out. 

Curious to know your opinions

Thanks in advance! 

11 hours ago, grebal said:

Agree with those that said 4.0, with chance of 3.5.

11 hours ago, grebal said:

Agree with those that said 4.0, with chance of 3.5.

I’d be happy with that grade!

22 hours ago, Spawn1709 said:

Probably a 3.0. I think 3.5 is a bit high, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Thanks for the feedback!

9 hours ago, Lucky Baru said:

3.0 - 3.5.  Nice book to have in ones collection.

7 hours ago, DocHoppus182 said:

3.5.  Nice book.

Thanks for the feedback, definitely a nice book!

1 hour ago, Mailman_Comics said:

From what I can see in your other post, barring any defects I can't see, it looks like a solid 4.0

Thanks, i’d be happy with that grade! 

2 hours ago, jevlnuts said:

No photos

Sorry I reposted it a second time with photos if you can find it. Thanks for looking, and i’d appreciate any feedback!

7 minutes ago, shadroch said:

I wouldn't press or clean it. 3.5, with a remote shot at more.

Great, thanks for the feedback! I agree

49 minutes ago, paul747 said:

3.5

Thanks! I think most would agree, as do I!

59 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said:

Rusty staples ?? can't quite tell ...

likely no better than CGC 3.5 

Staples are fine, thanks for your feedback. That seems to be the general consensus

3 hours ago, revat said:

there's a separate subforum where people go to ask people to grade their comics.  you'll get more responses there.

Thank you, already did! 

2 hours ago, Terrapin said:

I'm in the 3/3.5 camp. Pressing the bends will help push it to 3.5 but I don't see 4.0 with so much spine wear and the other numerous creases.

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated

2 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

What I mean is that the cost to press doesn' weigh out the value of it

But idk. 

I understand what you mean, I think it’s safe to say it’s in the 3.5-4.0 regardless, which i’d be happy with, especially being a big key

1 hour ago, Bomber-Bob said:

A press would be silly on a book like this. The existing flaws are too numerous, a press would not improve the grade at all. 4.0, IMO.

Thank you, i’d be happy with that grade! 

2 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Well I see your point  imo or as far as I know, when it comes to the breaks in color, it depends if some are worse than others; meaning, yes there are a lot on this spine, but most are the same length. I do think that the "length" of each individual matters, kind of seems silly. But I think the grader's notes would read multiple spine ticks or heavy spine ticks, rather than a million of them. That leads me to believe that they would be "categorized" as one defect... 

The more I think about it though, and for the sake of honesty it really probably is more 3.0/3.5. 

I had a Fantastic Four 48 with not many bends where you open the book, like yours does, but it did have maybe half the spine issues that yours does and they were longer from spine into the cover. Meaning I'm pretty confident in the 3.5,

I would love to hear how wrong I am  and probably will  

Haha, sounds like we're on the same page. I think I will have this cleaned, graded and slabbed and will definitely update this post. I'd be happy with that grade!

10 minutes ago, joeypost said:

Creases on interior pages are very common, especially in bronze age books.

The dirt and dust shadow will keep this book in the VF- range. The dirt would clean up easily and the dust shadow improved on which might bump the grade up.

I'd be ok with that! And I think it would clean up nicely as well. Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated

2 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

it could be a 3.5, with the creases on the spine, they're not very long from the spine into the cover. The rest of the book looks decent though, page quality looks decent. From what you show of the inside, there are no pinholes.....

I'd say 3.5 at worst, I know some would say 3.0 but imo it looks too good elsewhere, so I'd go 3.5/4.0

Yeah the rest of the book looks good in my opinion as well. As I reference the Overstreet grading graph and 25 defects or more qualify as a "Poor" copy, I wasn't sure if all that spine stress made for a million defects