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On 3/19/2020 at 7:22 PM, JollyComics said:

The black book is not 9.8.

I have the comic book lying on top of a black school folder. Someone in another post thought it was part of the book I was asking about.

I have a first print of Bone 4, that Jeff Smith signed and drew on at a comic con in 94 or 95. The biggest condition problem I see is on the back cover, upper right. Could that be pressed out, or could the book be pressed at all with the signature? There's also a small bend on upper right of front cover with possible color break that's hard to see (I can't tell if it's a color break or a whitish line from the art). Also, because of the signature, I know I'd get a qualified grade if CGC graded it, so if I was going to sell, would it be better to sell ungraded?

2 hours ago, comicginger1789 said:

My apologies I saw he glare and assumed still in bag.

No problem. It does have an especially glossy cover. 

2 hours ago, comicginger1789 said:

Hard to say without photos out of the bag and a few closer. Appears to be a spine tick above lower stapled. 9.0-9.2, potential is there for better but the photos don't give me enough to grade higher. 

it is out of the bag; it's resting on the bag and board. You're right about the spine tick. I didn't notice that; there's a very light spine tick that doesn't break color. I can scan it, but it doesn't sound like it's in the 9.6-9.8 range like I was hoping. 

How much would the bottom right corner of back cover bring the grade down? I don’t see any defects besides that.

I saw a 9.8 one of these sell for a decent price on eBay, so I wondered if my copy was a 9.8. Besides very slight imperfection to bottom left corner it looks flawless. The top staple isn’t perfectly flush on the edge; I don’t know if that brings it down. I’d be pretty surprised  if it was less than 9.6, but I think it could very well be 9.8. Thanks.

Thanks

The bottom left corner has a slight split, and the bottom right isn't very sharp. Beyond that, it looks to be in great shape.

9 hours ago, Motor City Rob said:

Lol. Yep, totally. My bad. I'm not familiar with this book and the folder blended right in. I see one or two nicks. I'd go 9.4. 

No problem. Thanks for the grade. 

1 hour ago, Motor City Rob said:

9.0. There are some pretty strong creases on both covers. 

Where do you see creases? Are you looking at the black folder that the book is placed on?

Thanks

23 minutes ago, KryptoSpidey said:

Yeah it needs a PRESS. 9.2 as is maybe 9.4. 

9.4/9.6 squished.

FYI its V.3 not second (V.2 "Silver-age" /V.1 Golden-age) series  (i just got a 9.8 back from CGC,. it's V.3 when submitting in the drop down submission menu)

Interesting. Is it possible cgc has it wrong? It says second series on mycomicshop.com

Either way, thanks for the grade.

It has some scuff marks on lower front cover, but seems to be in nice shape beyond that. 

Thanks for the grade. Didn’t know the stress marks would affect the grade that much, but better to find out now instead of sending it to cgc, expecting a 9.6

PGM ASM 361. The only defect i noticed was a possible color break from the staple on lower front cover. Thanks.

I took scans. I did noticed that the dents aren't apparent on the scans.

2 hours ago, JoshGrav said:

Hard to say for sure because some of the pictures have serious glare. I don't see where there is a 1/2inch color breaking crease on the back unless im blind. My guess is this is a 9.2 - 9.4. Those non color breaking dents on the back might be able to be pressed out with a real good presser. Hard to say though because how close they are to the spine. If they come out, Id say you might be able to come close to a 9.6. This assuming that there isn't anything else wrong with this book that just aren't picked up in the pictures or on the interior

9.2-9.6 would be nice. I can try to scan it so that there isn’t glare.

2 hours ago, ChrispyC66 said:

8.5 or 9.0 (pressed) IMO. The color breaking 1/2” crease (Pic 4) on BC outer edge makes it max 9.0 in my view. NCB bends takes it to 8.5.

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I think what you’re calling a crease with color break in the fourth pic is glare.

PGM X-men 106. Thanks in advance.

3 hours ago, Deadpoolica said:

8.5/9.0

9.0 pressed? Why would it get points off besides the light indentations?

Please grade my ASM 300, pressed and unpressed. Thanks in advance.

8 hours ago, H0RR0RSH0W said:

This is the principal of established value. Within a limit, the longer a book takes to get to a certain selling point in value the more likely it will be to stay at that value...or even increase. The more examples as well there may be of the book selling at a given price too. The consensus is that when a newer book reaches some nose bleed high selling price it  is shown that very often that price will simmer down to a more realistic selling price. If the book really is good and has the true earmarks of value then it may very well see that high selling price again. 

That makes sense. I’ve got some books in mind now and have been looking at websites that have undervalued comic picks. 

 I’m thinking of asm 238 in a 9.6, and probably 239 as well. I’m also thinking of silver surfer second series 44 in a 9.6. I could get all three of those for around the same price as a silver surfer first series #3 8.5. Not sure which would be a better pick. 

Or maybe I should save up and get a 8.0-9.0 copy of Incredible Hulk 181

I should be able to hold on to them for 20-30 years, unless I need the money sooner.

8 hours ago, revat said:

Regarding the Saga 1, just like any other comic, it depends at least somewhat on what you bought it for.  If your ROI currently is 1000% then maybe you don't get a lot of value from waiting another 20 years for the price to double your current PROFIT.  You might be satisfied with the huge profit. But if your current ROI is 20% (still a nice profit), because your current profit margin relatively smaller its also relatively easier to double the ROI, so it might be waiting another 2-5 years.  And some people fight feel literally the exact opposite about it.  They think that since they're already up 1000% they're playing with house money so they can roll on, and since they only made 20% on this they should just cash out and get to something riskier.

So much of it depends on one's personal risk preferences.

 If you personally are informed and knowledgeable about any potential investment short term or long term, then run your knowledge up against your financial situation and your risk preferences, and see what you get. 

Certainly some books will be valuable in fifty years, but how confident are you in your ability to spot those books?  How well do you understand the market as whole (or specific parts)? How much time are you wiling to spend to understand the market?  How much are you willing to spend?  What type of return do you expect to make it worth the investment?  How does your return line up with anticipated inflation or economic effects?  How equipped are you to understand inflation or other economic effects?  What about storage and/or moving and/or weather in your area?  Are you sure your money wouldn't be better invested in the S&P 500 or a mutual fund? 

If you're doing it for fun or just as an excuse to keep buy more comics that you enjoy, then cool, do whatever.  But if you really see them as a long term investment, then you should treat them objectively the way you would any other long term investment.

To be honest, I don’t understand investing to that degree. I just know if I can sell something in the future for more than I paid, then I’ve made a profit. Storage cost for books is minimal. I don’t expect huge returns on something I bought at cover price. 

I could and maybe should just put money in 401k, but collecting is more interesting and fun, to have a book in hand I can look at and appreciate.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood, but the consensus seems to be that most modern or current books that are valuable now won’t retain there value long term, while an older book (80’s and earlier) is more likely to. Is that right?

I mentioned earlier in this thread that print runs are lower now, as well as there being in my opinion better content than in the 90’s. Scarcity is a factor in value, so I’d think that would lead to a higher number of modern books retaining their value.

1 hour ago, Mercury Man said:

Well nobody in the early 1960's knew that AF 15 or FF 1 or X-Men 1 would be valuable (that's about 50 years).   Those books transcended pop culture so to speak.  So is there something being put on the shelf today that is going to be worth some money in 50 years?  Who knows.   Look at The Walking Dead #1, hot book.  Nobody saw that one coming.  Now when the show is off the air, do you think it continues?  Do you think people 50 years from now will be looking in attics and garage sales for a Walking Dead #1?  Or will the interest die down, as the series fades from memory.   Do we even know if comic books will be a collectible 50 years from now?  Again, read moderns, enjoy them, if they go up in value, bonus.  If not, welcome to the 99%.   

Good question. Who knows if something like walking dead 1 will be collected in 50 years. Although, in the comic book world 50 years doesn’t seem long enough to forget something entirely.