RockMyAmadeus

Celebrate good times, come on.

You have found eight copies. I must need to bone up on what the word "impossible" means. You're not going to bone up here are you? Sung to the tune of Candyman Who can take a comment Make it gross and weird Use a double entendre on a comment that's quite clear The Kandahar Man can, The Kandahar man can Learn how to syllableize, newb.

I hope...though I doubt....that CGC keeps census "snapshots" throughout time. It always fascinates me to see how many existed in what grade *at a specific moment in time*, and I fear that information may be lost forever, except for tiny spots here and there for specific books, like yours.

They were sold out at the distributor level. Hence the quotes.

:shrug: Conan the series was still being published....

That's all that counts. I love Grendel. I wish I was even more aggressive than I was... The very first theft I ever encountered on eBay was a tool offering "NM" copies of Primer #2, Grendel #1-3 for $180, all signed by Wagner. This was early 1999, and would have been my first copies of all these books. Sent a MO, never got the books or the comics.

This thread would've been 4 times longer if you had been here. Nah... It would have been deleted...

How much?

Just think....RMA didn't even EXIST the last time this thread was active.... Spooky, huh...?

compostable_fertilizer. I was _there_, RMA. I have the Pre-Unities--bought at the prices I stated, and I have the additional ComicFest '93 swag (like 3 copies of Defiant Genesis in the original sleeves and a double-signed Platinum Batman 492) to prove it. Depending on which dealer table you went to, and what time during the show (ie, whether it was Friday evening vs. Sunday afternoon), the deals were there to be had. _Everybody_ had Valiants in depth, and while certain books (like Harbinger 0) were still white hot and were selling at their peak, others were being dumped. And yeah--Turok # 1 was _already_ selling for between $.25-$1, just weeks after release. Rai 6-8. Magnus 9-11, 13-14 were available in bulk for $1 each. Meanwhile, the three premiere Ultraverse # 1s (Prime, Strangers, and Hardcase) were selling for $5-8, with # 2s going for more. Those books were actually _selling_ at those prices, whereas the Valiants sat (unless _heavily_ discounted). Anyone else who attended ComicFest '93 in Philly care to chime in? I attended ComicFest in '93 in Philly and if there was a box of Valiant's for a quarter each I must of been so blind that I complete missed it because in 93 Valiant was super hot. I was completely into Valiant at that time and I scoured every comic table with no luck. Everyone there was selling pre-Unity books for $25 and up. Issue 1's were going well over $100. As a Sophomore in high school I couldn't afford anything at those prices. I'm not saying those books weren't there for that price but they didn't last to long at all. Maybe you meant 94' or 95'? (thumbs u 1994 and 1995 would make much, much more sense. I like to think of Ninjak #1 (November, 1993 release) as "the end of the end." It was the very last Valiant #1 book that anyone cared about, and it was still printed at half a million copies. Things declined realllllly fast after that, but not in 1993.

compostable_fertilizer. I was _there_, RMA. So_was_I, Gatsby. And I worked for a DISTRIBUTOR at the time. Okey dokey. If you want to believe that, more power to ya. Everything in the printed literature of the day, plus my own experience, plus the experience of many people here, says otherwise, but if you think what you remember is true, well, there ya go. I will...as ever...point out the fallacy of your statement: the comics...unless you have a receipt...proves nothing. It doesn't prove where you bought them, it doesn't prove when, and it doesn't prove how much. And no, you're sadly mistaken. Turok #1 was not "selling for between 25c-$1 just weeks after release." Unless, of course, you mean 30-40 weeks. If you really wish to believe that "Valiants just sat unless heavily discounted" at any point in 1993....well, you're deluded. You don't understand the market, you're ignoring all the data, and your recollections are flawed. More power to ya! (thumbs u

No one was selling ANYTHING Valiant for 25 cents in 1993. Please, let's not re-write history. Valiant was the single hottest thing on the planet, ESPECIALLY from January to July-ish. Yes, demand died in the Fall....but the books didn't go from $50 to quarter books overnight. There wasn't a month that went by that Valiant wasn't pimped excessively by Wizard, and that was the year Wizard had its most influence on the entire industry. Even the most radically overprinted books...Turok #1 the radicalest...were popular. Turok #1 DID "sell out" across the nation, after all....it just sold out to speculators waiting for it to be the next Bloodshot #1.

I got a bunch of them in my trees. What, trolls...?

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Another one bites the dust...Add Grimace to the list Ugh. That just stinks. He had some decent experience/knowledge, too. Sigh.

Hi Iggy! Nice to see you over here!

For many, but not all - form me it was about Vertigo, Fantagraphics, and looking for pre-code crime at the cons. Of course, because exceptions to the rule are always as important as the rule.

This forum is dead today.....

Sorry, but this just isn't true. Turok #1 came out in May, 1993, and Valiant could not have been hotter. That heat continued throughout the summer. It hit a brick wall in the fall, but that doesn't mean prices dropped from the stratosphere instantly. If you picked out those books from "dollar boxes" in 1993, you were incredibly, incredibly lucky. In fact, the very reason Ultraverse was so hot was BECAUSE Valiant was...speculators were hoping for a repeat. The Image boat had sailed because of their epic inability to put out any books on time. 1993 was all about these things: Knightfall, Fall From Grace, Valiant, and Ultraverse.

I would be shocked beyond belief to discover there were pre-Unity Valiants for sale "in the dollar boxes" at any point during the year 1993. Possible exception of Magnus #13-14, possible exception of dealers living in caves. I doubt that was the case.

I traded for Booz's 9.8. In over a year, still no more 9.8s. Dino (the new owner of the Valiant properties, VEI) got three copies of the TPB in the Acclaim warehouse. They all graded at 9.8. That's where mine came from. Coming soon to the census. Sorry, I wasn't clear....I was referring to the Preacher Preview, not the MVP TPB.

No. Prime #1 and especially #2 were still quite hot by the time #4 came out. Prime didn't start to cool off until about issue 9-10.

I traded for Booz's 9.8. In over a year, still no more 9.8s. What would you like to know?

More than 100k. Didn't a 9.8 of that just go $250 or something on eBay? There are only 2 #33 9.8 and neither were for sale on ebay. Doc Joe got his from Reynold Jay and the other went to a private sale to a guy in Britain. Incorrecto. Top Notch sold one last month for $332 on eBay. I think I even started a thread about it. Sale is in GPA. (thumbs u

Yes, that's the case with DC Whitmans - Whitman logo and no issue number on the cover. If you look inside at the indicia inside the front cover at the bottom of the first page you can determine which issue numbers you have. Superboy #31.... that is a metarog joke, not a warlord joke Oh, sorry.