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    I need help on trying to price my "The new mutants #87" signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a market value

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    1 minute ago, the blob said:

    I guess there is a little lull in the character. Is he just going to be a Deadpool buddy? Is he going to get worked into the X-Men movies? I think he was done well in Deadpool 2, but I don't think there was enough to have people screaming for a Cable movie. I have a couple of these I may get submitted. On the fence as they are probably 9.0 - 9.2 unless a press may help.

    Yeah. With Stan Lee passed on. And now this comic is now worth more. How am I going to get $5,000 or a trade of something that is valuable of the price I am asking for?

    I need help on trying to price my "The new mutants #87" signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a market value

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    Posted

    1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

    That is out of my wheelhouse :sorry: I'm familiar with PSA due to the card hobby, I don't really know more than that....(I prefer beckett) 

    but I've heard other boardies talk about their (PSA and JSA) certification process, I don't remember all of it sounding good :foryou: 

    Please help me out on what you mean by "I don't remember all of it sounding good."

    I need help on trying to price my "The new mutants #87" signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a market value

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    Posted

    1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

    To be honest, I recently bought a 9.6 for about $210 including shipping...

    I don't know what's up with cable ???

    Seems like a popular character in my book :foryou:

    I would assume lefield charges more to sign NM #87? So it's at least worth the price of the sigs...

    I feel you though, cause I had a NM #98 signed by lefield that came back an 8.0 :(

     

    If I get it recertified by like PSA or JSA? Will I get more than just the grade?

    I need help on trying to price my "The new mutants #87" signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a market value

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    Posted

    2 hours ago, miraclemet said:

    Well you are trying to set your price at a pretty volatile time in the market when it comes to signed Stan Lee comics. 

    1. With Stan's passing on Nov 12 of last year the market has been flooded by a) sellers looking to get the most for their signed Stan Lee comics and b) buyers who are looking for something signed by Stan. These buyers aren't always the most market knowledgeable (either about comics or CGC Sig Series) so you see some odd fluctuations (like a CGC SS Stan sig 9.0 selling for more than a 9.4  just cause someone hit a BIN). 

    2. The market has seemed to set a floor for CGCed Stan Lee Signed books, so that will help to inform us.. but

     

    Am I working under the right assumption that your book is not CGCed or signed through the Sig Series process? 

    That really affects the assessment. 

    Here's the data IF the book is CGCed and SSeries. 

    A CGC SS 8.0 Signed by Stan sold for $350, while a regular CGC 8.0 has been selling for around $100, so Stan's sig series signature is valued at $250. 

    A CGC SS 9.4 signed by Stan and Liefeld sold for $325, while an unsigned CGC 9.4 is selling on average for $175, so thos two signatures only added $150 in value to the book. 

    (see what I mean by wildly fluctuating market? The CGC SS 8.0 was likely a BIN that someone who doesnt collect comics purchased, but it's a data point none the less)

     

    Now this is all data that helps decide value, especially if the book you are selling is CGCed. 

    BUT if it's not, then we need to look at raw sales (non-CGCed)

    1. There have been no sales of New Mutants 87 with an unverified stan lee signature on them in the last 90 days. The closest we get is a PGX slab sale (which actually might sell for less than a raw copy) signed by Lee, Liefled and Todd Mc, and it sold for $100 (due to their ability to certify signatures being dubious at best). 

    2. There are NO listings of a raw New Mutants 87 with Stan's signature on them, so either you are gonna corner the market, or no one is interested (more likely the latter)

    3. In general there are over 1700 listings for "Stan Lee signed" items (I removed all CGC books), of those 53 have bids (or 3 % of listings). The highest bids on raw comics are: 

    1. Black Panther #1 ($200)
    2. ASM 365 $100
    3. ASM (v2) #11 $54

    4. In general Spiderman sells far better than any other comic book signed by stan, and then comics Stan worked on sell better than comics he didn't. So your NM87 has an uphill battle. Looking at sold copper, non Spider-man books that have sold in last 90 days you're best comps are: 

    1. X-men (v2) #1 signed by Stan ($200 BIN purchase, again BINs arent as reliable for market setting)
    2. Infinity Gauntlet #1 signed by stan ($200)
    3. Punisher #1 signed by stan $189 BIN
    4. X-men (v2) #1 signed by Stan ($169)

    5. A raw copy of NM87 (not signed by anyone) in your grade seems to be selling for around $150. 

    Your problem is that you have to solve a few problems

    1. If you are selling a raw NM87 signed by Stan, you have to price it well under what a CGC SS NM87 is selling for. Also the market listings are inflated (like someone has a Lee/Liefeld CGC SS 5.0 listed with a BIN for $900, and it'll never sell). 

    2. Your real competition is not with other NM87s, but with other raw Stan Lee signatures, and as I showed below, the market there is around $200.

    in the end the three data points that set your price are:

    • A raw NM87 is selling for $150
    • A Raw Stan Lee signature is selling for $150-200
    • A Sig Series CGCed NM87 in higher grade sold for $325-50

    I think (again assuming the book is raw) that your price point is $299 and you take advantage that there are no auctions on the market for the book at the moment. Maybe you get lucky and you have a cable fan wanting a stan signature, but who doesnt want to shell out $900 for one of the CGC SS BINs and who doesnt want to wait for one to pop up in an auction. But be prepared to relist at $249. 

    (the other problem you are running into is that there are probably buyers out there for a raw NM87, but who are turned off by it being signed, since in some eyes that hurts the books condition rather than enhance it)

    Here is my picture of it. 

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    I need help on trying to price my "The new mutants #87" signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a market value

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    Posted · Edited by Convention dude94
    Adding some tags

    Hello people of CGC. Just haven't made a post on this forum in a while.

    I need help trying to price my “New mutants #87” signed by the late Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at the current market value at a grade of 9.0 off white to white pages. You see I am trying to sell this signatured key issue from 1990 at the current market value by auctioning it off. And I can’t risk on spending like $38.63 and later getting ripped off if the item does not sell for 514.99. Because ebay can’t refund sellers of the item does not sell in the auction.  Which I find hypocritical.

    I need help on finding a reserved price at market value and see if I can exceed that amount to a premium.

    And if I am thinking about selling it for like $514.99. Give me an alternative to an auction site like ebay that offers selling a item at $514.99 at a cheap price.

     

    Thank you.

    Trying to find a comic or memorabilia store in San Jose to sell "The new mutants #87" key issue signed by Stan lee and Rob Liefeld at a grade 9.0 by CGC for a premium.

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    Posted

    1 minute ago, mattn792 said:

    but you paid FAR too much for that book at $399, especially when SS 9.6 copies signed by McFarlane and Liefeld are selling for only a few bucks more, and single signature 9.6s are up to $100 less.

    Unfortunately, the "premium" you're now seeking will likely be impossible to attain any time soon:

    Or I can trade it.

    Trying to find a comic or memorabilia store in San Jose to sell "The new mutants #87" key issue signed by Stan lee and Rob Liefeld at a grade 9.0 by CGC for a premium.

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    Trying to find a comic or memorabilia store in San Jose to sell "The new mutants #87" key issue signed by Stan lee and Rob Liefeld at a grade 9.0 by CGC for a premium.

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    I am looking for a comic book store or memorabilia store in San Jose and Santa Clara to sell a CGCed signed copy of the key issue "The new mutants #87" from 1990 signed by Stan Lee and Rob Liefeld at a grade 9.0 to sell at a premium. 

    The reason I am making this post is that, when in real life I'm trying to sell like a signed copy of a key issue by the creator of the comic. And certified by CGC. They would give my a quarter of the current market value or a limited value in the triple didget value. 

    And I tried calling stores like Illusive comics won't by my signed item because they don't buy stuff from customers. I tried Space cat they won't offer me a premium for it. I tried legends at eastridge mall they don't by graded comics. I tried heros comics in Campbell they won't offer me over $1000 not at a 9.0 grade level. I tried Milos collectibles they don't by comics even if they are signed. I tried Time tunnel they won't buy graded comics not even signed ones. I almost tried Comic collector's shop in Sunnyvale and usually the owner is out of the store.  

    Even I tried it outside of my town. I tried Lefty's sports collectibles they won't offer me a premium for it. I tried Classic materials they don't by comics neither graded and signed. 

    So why won't they buy it for a premium. Because usually the signed item makes the comic go up in value. I thought about it and I am thinking that these stores are trending in with other stores like Gamestop and other geek stores to rip off their customers. 

    I think where I live i am living in a economical distopia here. Or I can't sell it in the 4th didget range becasue I think these stores have their own market.

    There has got to be a store that is a $$$ store which specializes in graded and signed comics in San Jose and Santa Clara. Because most of the stores I called are usually at this rate $$. I know this becasue I use Yelp. 

    And I can't sell it at a pawnshop because places like these are dangerous and unsafe.

    I you know a store in real life here in the Santa Clara and San Jose area that is safe and that the store can buy my signed and graded comics at a premium like a Mom and Pop shop or a memorabilia store at a $$$$ price range that can buy signed comics even graded ones. Please leave a post here.

    Thank you.

    How valuable are the Marvel Milestone versions of the Marvel key issues from the silver to bronze age go for with Stan Lee's Autograph

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    I found a "Amazing Spider-man #252" 9.6 CGC graded signed by Stan Lee and Micheal Zeck for $37.00 on mrbeania.com

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    Posted

    6 minutes ago, DjMartini said:

    Sorry to hear, I think a majority of us were pulling for you! 

    Now with new sunglasses at least you won't be blinded by the websites deception  B|

    (also thanks for keeping us posted until the end)

    Yeah. I think they used pictures from ebay to fool the consumer. I am going to make a PSA. Is there a section on this website where I can make a PSA post?