Haunted Thrills

Hi, did you ever sell this?

On 1/7/2019 at 2:27 PM, adamstrange said:

Can't cite something specific because it was a while back and I have hundreds of magazines and books about artists.  It's pretty easy to tell just by looking as, for example, you can see Baker or Kamen doing the girls and someone else do other characters back in the 40s for Fiction House, another Iger shop client. Disbrow's "Iger Comic Kingdom" might have a discussion of their methods.

Here is the quote from Iger artist Jay Disbrow taken from his Iger Comics Kingdom book -
"All penciling was done by freelancers, and Iger's 7 member staff consisted of 5 inkers, a letterer, and editor Ruth Roche."
"Sometimes more than one inker worked on a page.  When the stories were completed, somehow the style of the penciler showed through the finished product..."

If there were multiple pencilers for a page, Disbrow would have certainly mentioned it.

23 hours ago, adamstrange said:

Can't cite something specific because it was a while back and I have hundreds of magazines and books about artists.  It's pretty easy to tell just by looking as, for example, you can see Baker or Kamen doing the girls and someone else do other characters back in the 40s for Fiction House, another Iger shop client. Disbrow's "Iger Comic Kingdom" might have a discussion of their methods.

That's where I got my statement from.  They clearly say that a few artists would INK a page, but nowhere is it mentioned that multiple artists would pencil a page.

On 1/2/2019 at 2:26 PM, adamstrange said:

That's exactly how the Iger shop worked (and the Binder shop).  You might have a guy lay out the pages, someone else drew the girls, someone else did the other characters, someone penciled the background and then various hands did the inking.  They techniques you mention work great and have been applied to come up with thousands of creator credits.  Of all GA comic work, the production shop material is pretty much what remains to be identified because of this difficulty.

While I have read that a few Iger Shop artists would INK a page, I have never read where multiple artists penciled a page.  Do you have a source for your statement?

On 12/31/2018 at 1:51 PM, fifties said:

In fact that's exactly what allegedly happened, and because of their abundance, they are the least valuable of the run (all of which I have).  I would say that issue 13's lead story, "Library of Horror", as illustrated on the cover, IMO is the best story in the run.

Absolutely, it is a great story.

On 12/31/2018 at 12:56 PM, adamstrange said:

Robert Webb was one of the senior artists at the Iger Studio.  His hand is in many, many stories and covers.  How much of his hand was involved could vary from panel to panel and from one story to another.

It's pretty easy to surmise one's specific pencils if you can cross reference material.  It's not like Webb did a little pencil work on a page and passed it off to someone else to finish the pencils.

13 hours ago, adamstrange said:

Given the assembly line process they used it's very hard to decipher the particular artists (emphasis on the plural) involved.  We would probably need access to the the company records, assuming they kept them at a detailed level per story and didn't just pay the artists a salary.

Accessing records is probably impossible, but with enough cross referencing of styles I might be able to find the specific artist but it might take a good while.

For example, CC had this OA listed as "artist unknown," (Iger shop) however I'm pretty sure the penciler is Robert Webb from Iger based upon this HA listing and other pieces and the fact that they are both from Journey into Fear comics  -

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/robert-webb-and-iger-studio-journey-into-fear-2-story-page-3-original-art-superior-publ-1951-/a/121811-13136.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515#

I have a few coverless PCH comics, and this issue of Mysteries Weird and Strange #6 from Superior.
Anyone know who penciled this story "Howling Horror?"  Once again, It is Iger Shop, but I'm looking for the specific artist.
 

16 hours ago, Hap Hazard said:

The Thing! 13-17 That finished it up!

Love the Ditko covers on these.  Seems like there's a million #16's around, did someone discover a warehouse full of them

On 12/9/2018 at 12:42 AM, Dreamtoreal1 said:

Haunted Thrills #8

Another great Haunted Thrills cover.  I'd love to know who from Iger Shop penciled these covers.

16 hours ago, Jayman said:

Love that one too! Plus it's a seldom done close up head shot (for Atlas PCH at least). Here's some other close up Atlas covers I like!

 

 

 

 

I've always loved that "woman with the skeleton hands" cover!

Spellbound 16.  Kind of rough, around a 2.5, maybe 3.0, but it is signed by Joltin' Joe Sinnott and Vic Carrabotta on the interior, so that helps!  Love the Heath cover too.
 

9 hours ago, Jayman said:

Don't forget Harry Anderson...

 

 

 

Zombie in the graveyard is one of the most iconic covers in pre-code history, and needless to say one of the most sought after.

3 hours ago, Jayman said:

Keepin' with my fav, Atlas'

Maneely, Everett, Colan, and Heath did some great covers for Atlas!

On 11/29/2018 at 11:59 AM, originalisbest said:

I had no doubt it was a '60s composition, even more due to the guy's hairstyle, than the clothes -- it's speculation on my part, but maybe it was a what-if we revive the "Out of the Night" title by ACG? Adventures into the Unknown was still in publication, albeit code-approved at that point in the middle '60s. It's a great cover anyway, would look right at home under a '70s DC House of Mystery or House of Secrets title header as well! :-)

As it turns out the artwork was affixed randomly to the Out of the Night header and then it was initially offered as a pre-code art piece.  But the seller changed the listing so it no longer says "pre-code art."  Who knows who or when the person originally mated the two pieces, could have been years ago.  And yes, it totally looks like late 60's/early 70's House of Mystery!

And sometimes they take a boat!
 

Yep, lots of skeletons drivin' cars.

One of my favorite Witch Tales covers.  The driving skeleton motif seemed to be popular in PCH!

This is the only Strange Suspense Stories I have. I bought it primarily because of the Bernard Baily cover.

1 hour ago, The Voord said:

Listing has now been corrected.

That's better.  Well done, sir!

2 hours ago, The Voord said:

Vincent Z has now confirmed to me on FB that the listing's description will be amended soon.

Well done to Haunted Thrills for flagging this one up.  

Glad to see they will be changing the description.  Comic Connect is quite good and I've always had good luck with them.

23 minutes ago, The Voord said:

I've written back to ComicConnect challenging that description (which appears on their web-site, but not on the CAF listing - which was my first port-of-call).  Whether or not they change it, I've no idea.  

To be honest, as with Vodou, my initial thoughts were, "Brothers D?".  At this moment in time, we simply don't know, so probably best not to jump to conclusions.

You're absolutely right, who knows how it happened. As I originally stated, I contacted them a week or so ago on the matter and they never responded.
Thanks for the input, this has been very enlightening.

5 hours ago, The Voord said:

It's not an entirely incorrect description.  Schaffenberger was working for ACG during the 1960s using an alias, 'Lou Wahl', creating covers for their published titles and to the best of my recollection the handful of surviving unpublished covers were for proposed new books that never got off the ground (latter half of the 1960s).  What's incorrect in Comic Connect's description is that the cover you highlight in this thread was intended for a pre-code cover (which is definitely not the case).  No idea if the Brothers D are the consignors but this is certainly the kind of deception they would practice.

Comic Connect highlight the fact that a logo has been attached to the unpublished cover for presentation purposes.  What they fail to state is that the recreated logo has no connection to the unpublished cover art . . . 

 

While he may have done it for ACG, it was done in the 60's and is not "a piece of pre-code horror art" as stated in the description.

4 hours ago, The Voord said:

Reply from Comic Connect:

"Thank you for your comment on the Kurt Schaffenberger piece. Your comment reiterates what is already listed on the piece. This item is noted as unpublished with a logo affixed for presentation purposes. Unfortunately we are unable to remove the logo as it will damage the art. Sincerely, Jessica Staff of ComicConnect"

Interesting.  The description reads " This wonderful piece of pre-code horror art was created for ACG, who were known for their horror titles.."