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I may just do that, you devil-dog, you... Thanks for the idea... Andy

Props to Rich (Korvac Saga) for sending me a package that was absolutely bomb-proof! The comics were great and I am not a certified happy camper! Thanks Rich!!! Andy

Well, that's a cover (and title, actually) that I haven't seen before. Congratulations! Andy

Nice one there, that's for sure!!! Andy

nice books shep, nice! Keep em comin, soldier! Andy

does the girl make it? Andy

Awwww...it's guys like you, John, who make me blush.... Thanks for the kind words, and I feel the same way. Kind of funny when you think about it, though. The guys who read the "tough as nails" war books, are the sweetest guys around. Andy

Word up to flatrock02! Sent me free Spideys in the mail, suhweeeet!!!! Thanks bud!! Andy

Yeah, I was watching that one and saw the outcome...unbelievable!! Well, don't spend all your money on that one book, another will come around the corner soon....don't you worry. As for your G.I. Combat's from the Manitoba collection, very sweet! Good pick ups, my friend! Andy

Very nice books, Buck! Always love seeing the pics! Andy

can't get enough....btw...you're not hijacking the thread...just keepin it alive! attaboy! Andy

May 1956 Star Spangled War Stories #45 Jan. 1957 G.I.Combat #44 Almost... Andy

Oh, my! Nice books!!! Keep em comin, Shep! Andy d r o o l i n g.......

Awesome book - looks like a pretty solid copy as well!! A classic if ever there was one. Nice to see. Shep Yup, I love it. Got me that book about 13 years ago for $150.00, I figure it's a 4.0, could be nicer, but for early DC war a 4.0 is a good solid copy. Cheers! Andy

Just picked up my new Showcase Unknown Soldier today. Excited, I am....all those great stories bound in one cheap black and white telephone book. YUMMY! Andy

Nice signed piece. I've got a OAAW 151 signed by Joe as well. I doubt it's from the "Kubert Collection" though. Andy

Yeah, the cover's not miswrapped or anything....just odd placement of staples. That's kind of reassuring that this may be normal. Andy

Alright, here's GI Combat #179. A fave cover of mine that I remember seeing as a youngster. Bought it. Read it. Loved it! Andy

Here's a few Our Army At War's to look at...not the nicest shape, but they are examples of what's out there. Starting with #1 then #101...just realized I don't have #100...damn! #200 #300 #400 wish there was a #500.... Andy

Here's a few more G.I. Combat's.... Hope you enjoy these fabulous (ahem) washtones. Andy GIC #86 GIC #76 GIC #75

Ahaha! One of my favourite covers of all time. What's gonna happen next? Makes me want to read that comic. Andy

mmm mm.... keep em comin! Andy

Here's some info from another thread: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The definition from Overstreet (latest one, page 944) states: Grey-Tone Cover - "A cover art style in which pencil or charcoal underlies the normal line drawing, used to enhance the effects of light and shadows, thus producing a richer quality. These covers, prized by collectors, are sometimes referred to as Painted Covers but are not actually painted." "Wash cover" is not listed in Overstreet. And a question similar to yours: Would you mind expounding on what exactly Greytone is? I understand the effect, and results... but it is a wash of Grey under color? Are there set rules to defining what a greytone is and what is not? Or is it a matter of opinion? Either way.. I too like them.. but plead ignorance as to what exactly constitutes a Greytone.. Ze- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And here's what someone replied to that question: OOH!! I know the answer!! Greytone is created in the original art, consisting of the normal solid black ink work, as well as an "ink wash". By Ink Wash, I mean the inker (or penciller) uses watered down ink to create shades on the original black-and-white artwork. Traditional art is shot as a solid black/solid white, to which colors are applied. Greytone has the original art shot as a "halftone", which keeps the subtle shades, and colors are applied to it just as they are with traditional art. But the grey shades give it more depth than simply adding solid colors inside of a black outlined area. The difference is that traditional art uses the crisp linework as the outline portion of the art, and greytone gives that linework softer shades that resemble that of fully painted art. It's a quick, cheap, and effective way of giving artwork a painted feel. It was started as a way to have painted covers, back in the day when a color separation for a painting was not economically possible for a 10 cent comic book. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was added to that reply: nice Dice, you saved me the typing. I would add though that some do use charcoal/conte crayon shading, like Early Kuberts & Some Adams (I believe the Bats 232 is an example of that) instead of ink wash. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope this helps.... Andy

I'll re-post a bit of what I quoted from Chris Pedrin's Big Five Information Guide: "Jack Adler came up with the washtone process out of necessity. Jack and his good friend Sol (DC Production man, Sol Harrison-- whom Jack had known since junior high school!), had a problem getting separations done for the cover art. The separations were done by a Union shop, and they did not want to do them. Jack had always wanted to be a photo engraver, but his talents as a colorist went unnoticed by the Union because they locked him out. Jack devised ways around the union rules, one of which was the WASHTONE process, and proceeded, along with Sol to form their own Union! He experimented constantly to obtain the effect he wanted. The process is quite complicated and to accomplish the "look", artistic talent would be required. Jack would receive a piece of cover art drawn in pencil only, on either Strathmore paper or coquille board. He would then "ink" over the penciled work by doing wash separations done as separate drawings, making a watercolor blank being extremely careful with the color bleeds. Visualizing each color while doing the wash in diluted black ink (hence the term WASHTONE). He had to imagine each color and the effect it would have when overlapped with another color! By doing the art in this way, he would be categorized as an inker and the Unions couldn't touch him! And that's only the simple explanation!" I did see another thread that went into the process a little deeper. Let me see if I can find it... Andy

First greytone or not, a nice desirable comic. Mmmm mmm good! Andy