Atticus123

21 minutes ago, Jennifer F. said:

Good afternoon,

Once the book is removed from the holder the previous grade is no longer valid and there is always the possibility that the grade may change.  Generally, if we open the book here and it is being pressed and then regraded the grade usually would not be lower, however, there are no guarantees with the grade, unfortunately.  

If you have any other questions, please let us know.  Thanks!

Specifically what I am asking is if after the press, the new graders know of or work from the previous grade (regardless of it being no longer valid)?  Hope that questions makes sense as that is the answer I am after.  Do they know it was a 9.2 for example, or they just get a book on their table?  No agenda here, other than wanting to know how the process works.  Thanks.

On 5/14/2020 at 9:05 AM, Jennifer F. said:

Good afternoon,

Thanks for your message.   We do not recommend removing books from our holders as this will invalidate the grade and may cause damage to your book.  Unfortunately, we do not provide instructions on how to remove those.  If you are wanting to send the book in to us for a regrade or reholder, you can keep the book in our holder and we will safely crack it out here on our end.  

If you have any other questions, please let us know.  Thanks!

If an intact slab is submitted for pressing and grading, is the existing grade taken into account?  Or is the book removed from the case and the process started as if it had not been graded before?  Curious if the present grade is a starting point or not.  Thanks.

2 hours ago, Myowncollector said:

You can't leave negative feedback for buyers. They can non pay hundreds of times and still allowed to bid. Ebay is wonderful isn't it.

2 hours ago, kav said:

Until they go to buy more books and learn they have been blocked over and over from the blocked bidder thread.  Believe me-that is a serious curtailment.  As I have mentioned before, I have been blocked by exactly one seller over a misunderstanding (Jimmy doesnt like misunderstandings-misunderstandings and Jimmy-kinda clash) and it has foiled me dozens of times over the years!  Cannot imagine being blocked by dozens or hundreds of prolific sellers of comics on ebay!!
CONSEQUENCES when they thought there were none!!!!    

Yeah, and that's exactly what I did - block them as a buyer so they couldn't bid on my books. At least it was something...

6 minutes ago, allthingskryptonite said:

Calm down. I was joking. Sorry if I offered you.

We all understand your feeling of being tricked into a bad deal. Use this experience to your advantage, so that in future you'll be able to better price your books. Good luck.

2 minutes ago, allthingskryptonite said:

So your brother is one of the father-in-laws. Hmm 

Wow, simmer down there.  I am selling my late brother's collection for my family and I already feel like I've been taken advantage of and misled and am just trying to learn a little and get a fair price for the books.  So PLEASE don't imply I am anything like that scumbag.

3 minutes ago, kav said:

3 minutes ago, kav said:

LOL not to then resell like them.  I've been told that a book that was graded would have been improved with a pressing.  So I was looking into the feasibility of taking it out and having that done.  There is nothing wrong with that, is there?  I do now have a comic collector who is trying to help me with all of this.

No, it was just a feeling so sure, who knows?

Just now, James J Johnson said:

Conversed through messages? Or on the phone?

Which are the listings that were yours? Links?

Messages.  Okay I will tell you but remember I said that I (legit) am selling comics I don't know that much about.  So...  Spiderman 101 and a Luke Cage #1.  And yes, no doubt I got burned a bit which then made seeing them re-sell for double under shady circumstances make me even madder

1 minute ago, James J Johnson said:

No. It's a he. I'm sure Rebecca hasn't a clue. There is a Rebecca, but like the mythical father-in-law and other unicorns, she's far removed as well, IMO.

I don't know, I 'conversed' with her when she was trying to buy these books and i'm thinking female.  She also tried to buy the Spotlight #5 in the collection for $1,500.  Thanks to a nice person on eBay, I was alerted to its value.  I've since sent to CGC and it came back a 9.0

Just now, James J Johnson said:

That's this seller's strategy; the game plan. But to make this even begin to work for them with the necessary stealth to pull off a deceptive scheme like this, rather than simply a ticking time bomb that will explode long before the 6 months from the time of sale that his buyers will have to file Paypal claims and CC company chargebacks, the seller lacks three necessary elements. 1) Funds  2) Patience  3) Cognition. .

My books weren't slabbed.  They literally have been in boxes since my brother bought them. It really burned me to see what she did, especially as I am actually selling original owner books.  My guess is that if buyers complain, she refunds but the percentage of ignorant folks probably makes that number low.

On 5/3/2020 at 8:09 PM, littledoom said:

the worst part is he's doing this during a global pandemic

The worst part is that he is a she

I have firsthand knowledge of this unscrupulous seller as she (yes, it's a she) bought two books from me and then I saw her turn around and sell them claiming they were her father's, were never read and of a much higher grade than they were. She got twice as much for them, calling one NM when it was probably an 8.5 book.  Her pictures did not show any of the flaws, as mine did.  I could not help but message her and 'call her out' but of course she denied it was the same book.  I very much wonder what happened when the buyer who paid $1,500 for a book expecting it to be a 9.4 or higher received it.  NOTE that she used to be Diamond Comics and is now Polished Gem or whatever but that's not suspicious now, is it?

And let me add that I am selling books owned by a family member - for real - and it was easy to likely also take advantage of me as this is not my area.

How do I safely open a case to remove a comic?

9 minutes ago, vheflin said:

Amusing if not helpful :-)

The grade is in -- 8.5.  Wondering if I should have gotten it pressed.  Here are the grader's notes.  Seems like maybe two of them could've been fixed or improved by a press?   light writing indent center of front cover
small, multiple crease full top of back cover
spine stress lines breaks color
very light wear full bottom of front cover breaks color

How does one open a CGC case if you need to? 

3 hours ago, Qalyar said:

Sometimes there are real dogs of comics that manage, despite the odds, to retain a beautiful cover. We like to euphemistically say those "present well", and they make the best low-grade slabs. This thing is the exact opposite. That cover could barely get worse if my dog got to it, but the interior pages are fantastic.

I agree that this would get a 0.5 label, but I even more fervently agree that it shouldn't be slabbed. Slabbing this book would rob it of the features that make it worth owning; it needs to be able to be opened to be appreciated for what's genuinely very good about it.

No intention of slabbing just curiosity.  Thanks. 

3 hours ago, oldrover said:

Also, the slab grade won't help the sale.

No intention of slabbing, just curiosity.  Thanks!

11 minutes ago, vheflin said:

How can it be in that condition yet have white pages?

 

It's a good question!  The comic belonged to a family member so I can't really answer but am pretty sure they bought it used, already with the cover issues, maybe did the taping? But from that point on kept in safely in a bag.

Taped front cover with piece missing.  No back cover.  But, it is the #1 Annual.  Inside is actually nice!  Grades?

FYI the movie is now being held until next spring for release

After posting this in other forums, I suddenly saw this one -- which is where it belongs. I have an inherited comic collection so I am a Newbie but I am learning and trying to assess value and grading.  I've just had two books done by CGC -- a Spotlight #5 which came back a 9.0 and a Spiderman #100 which came in at 9.2.  I was a little surprised as the latter looked so perfect to me (yes, as a Newbie) and interestingly the grader notes only had one comment, which was 'very light spine stress lines to cover.'  The Spotlight had five comments, one of which was the same. But with four other 'issues' I was surprised the difference in grade was so small.  So I may be 'lucky' that the Spotlight got a 9.0, or 'unlucky' that the Spiderman only got a 9.2.  I guess my question is, is this common?  Is there a range depending on what grader you get and how they are feeling that particular day?  I understand it's not a science, just wondering how subjective it really is at that level...

Wasn't sure to post this here or in the PGM forum so if this is the wrong place, just let me know.  I have an inherited comic collection so I am a Newbie but I am learning and trying to assess value and grading.  I've just had two books done by CGC -- a Spotlight #5 which came back a 9.0 and a Spiderman #100 which came in at 9.2.  I was a little surprised as the latter looked so perfect to me (yes, as a Newbie) and interestingly the grader notes only had one comment, which was 'very light spine stress lines to cover.'  The Spotlight had five comments, one of which was the same. But with four other 'issues' I was surprised the difference in grade was so small.  So I may be 'lucky' that the Spotlight got a 9.0, or 'unlucky' that the Spiderman only got a 9.2.  I guess my question is, is this common?  Is there a range depending on what grader you get and how they are feeling that particular day?  I understand it's not a science, just wondering how subjective it really is at that level...

Sorry, moved this to the proper forum.  Not sure how to delete it here.

Wasn't sure to post this here or in the Newbie forum so if this is the wrong place, just let me know.  I have an inherited comic collection so I am a Newbie but I am learning and trying to assess value and grading.  I've just had two books done by CGC -- a Spotlight #5 which came back a 9.0 and a Spiderman #100 which came in at 9.2.  I was a little surprised as the latter looked so perfect to me (yes, as a Newbie) and interestingly the grader notes only had one comment, which was 'very light spine stress lines to cover.'  The Spotlight had five comments, one of which was the same. But with four other 'issues' I was surprised the difference in grade was so small.  So I may be 'lucky' that the Spotlight got a 9.0, or 'unlucky' that the Spiderman only got a 9.2.  I guess my question is, is this common?  Is there a range depending on what grader you get and how they are feeling that particular day?  I understand it's not a science, just wondering how subjective it really is at that level...