steve566

On 5/26/2023 at 8:26 AM, Lazyboy said:

No, they aren't.

Canadian, Australian, Canadian price variants are not foreign editions.. that’s what I’m saying in my post, not sure you agree or disagree with that statement 

Very few in the foreign comic community that I know consider pence variants foreign editions... They along with Canadian and Australian PV's are great to collect with foreign editions but they are simply price variants.. nothing else.. The books are the exact same except for the price, same cover, same language, same ads. 

On 12/7/2022 at 7:46 PM, Yorick said:

Who is the artist for the cover?  Swipe or no swipe, that's terrific work!

The HA auction was the first time I saw that cover.  I'm having lots of fun seeing comics ("foreign") that are new to me.  Refreshing when I thought my comic collecting desire was fading.

Cover on all of these la prensa non canon Spiderman is Jose Luis Duran

yep that was an epic sale for foreign comics. Interesting to see as the American comic market slows and slumps the foreign market seems to still be picking up steam. Probably has a lot to do with rarity and the fact many of these books were pretty undervalued for so long

On 10/6/2022 at 10:59 PM, 10centcomics said:

I need to clear up a few misconceptions here:

• Peter doesn't marry Gwen in this issue. While the cover and opening splash depict a wedding scene, it is revealed that the wedding is a delusional vision that Peter has while under the effect of Green Goblin's gas.
• This issue was published in May 1972, which places it before ASM #121 (March 1973). So this wasn't a response to Gwen Stacy's death. 

Plus a fun fact: Gwen is wearing pentagram earrings on the cover! I wonder if that was art swiped from some Warren magazine. 

 

I personally have never regarded this issue as a “response” to Gwen Stacy’s death but rather the whole non canon run as the Mexican publishers way of showing love for Gwen in general. You are 100% correct on the dates but don’t forget that la prensa for what ever reason did not publish 121 and 122 but rather continued with the non canon stories until almost 1974 after Gwen was dead in American comics. 121 was later published by MACC comics in July 1974 when they assumed the rights to Spiderman from marvel. They to had a run of non canon marvel comics including Spider-Man, Black Panther and a few other marvel properties.

On 10/6/2022 at 12:31 AM, Dr. Balls said:

 Good ole America bashing - the Millennial method of having a discussion with people they disagree with - including a healthy side of “…you do realize…”  for maximum righteous indignation, and let’s not forget a barfing emoticon - you know, ‘cause America is disgusting!

Written like a well-read 12 year old. 

In what way am I bashing America? You seem to be making A LOT of assumptions about me from one post.  

On 10/5/2022 at 3:22 PM, Las Tua said:

This seems similar to the "importance" of this "book"  At least this one is in English.

So other countries comic history is irrelevant? You do realize there are more comic readers around the world then there are in the US and English speaking countries right? Comics are an international platform.. your American elitism is showing 🤮

This book has been a grail for foreign collectors long before this heritage sale and consistently selling in the thousands of dollars for the last 5 years.. I think the excitement is that there seems to be more mainstream acceptance of these amazing non canon comics from the mainstream and “big” collectors rather than just the foreign fringe. I can’t think of more than 5-10 Americans that own a copy so it’s not exactly like we are all just speculating to cash in.. we are just proud to see a foreign comic grail have such good results at auction.

On 10/3/2022 at 9:40 PM, littledoom said:

I know a guy who has one for sale I think…

Haha well he should have no problem selling it after that heritage sale.. last one I saw sell publicly was about 2 years ago on eBay and it went for $5000.. I could probably send a line of buyers his way depending on price 

Yes you can request a book be slabbed backwards. I have requested it on a couple foreign flipbooks (Danish Werewolf by knight 1 with Ms5 on back cover) Even though it was approved by Matt Nelson; who ever slabbed my books didn't follow through. So basically its a gamble whether they do it or not. This superman seems strange that they allowed to slab backwards since it is not a front and back cover (flip book) I know it was submitted to Heritage then CGC so I'm assuming Heritage put in the request per the sellers preference. Obviously the superman page is what makes the book desirable so I think the seller and Heritage did what would help maximize profit. 

On 5/16/2022 at 6:22 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

 

Congratulations Steve! Some lovely books there 

@steve566

Thanks so much! Happy to show off some goodies to the world

On 4/22/2022 at 8:58 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

So a cover only swipe could get the respective US title, but a full story reprint with original cover doesn't. That makes sense!

How's it going down in your world Steve, the announcement?

I’m glad they made the announcement to explain their position.. it’s no big surprise to most of us that collect foreign comics since they started labeling them like this over a year ago.. I think it will at least bring more awareness to the comics which is great in my opinion. I’m a bit confused about the Disney thing and also for some reason some magazine sized comics are still receiving the old style labels.. the big take away for me is that CGC is interested in getting involved in foreign comics and that it is a work in progress

On 4/22/2022 at 5:35 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

It's fairly offensive without it 

I think that's fair comment. The idea to promote books which reprint original US keys is fine - but they made a bad initial strategic move and then have seemingly tried to fit a design around it. 

So does that mean this will not be recorded as AF15 then, given that it doesn't share the cover?

@steve566 Steve - what's your take?

That one will be labeled as “out of this world 17”…they are doing a cover only approach.. if the cover is not af15 then it won’t get that label.. i believe that issue may get a notation that it contains the af15 story inside.. 

On 4/21/2022 at 2:26 PM, themagicrobot said:

If this comic is submitted will it be designated Adventure Comics 247 too??

 

Definitely, I have one at cgc now, also going to submit my Greek edition

On 4/9/2022 at 12:34 PM, The Lions Den said:

This appears to have been done due to the odd size of these books, because some books don't fit into standard-sized wells. It can be due to thickness, height, width or any combination of the three. So, in certain situations, the encapsulation team will either affix a wedge to the inner well that forces the book over to one side or, in rare cases, they won't even use an inner well and slab the book in what's called "lid-to-lid" encapsulation. This does appear to be happening more often lately, and I have to admit it's not ideal, but there are times when you must ask yourself if you'd rather have it slabbed like this or not slabbed at all. In my mind, the only other course of action would be to resubmit the books and hope that something else can be done, but my feeling here is this may be the best that they can do...

Thanks! I appreciate the insight.. I’ll just leave them be

On 4/8/2022 at 10:06 PM, This is Who We Are said:

I'm no PB aficionado, but isn't the bottom mag Pamela Anderson?  You try to be funny on the CGC forum and find out it's all business here.

Haha yea apparently according to the eBay listing her 1st app too!

Telling of what? Haha the most common slabbed mags I could find were playboys and sports illustrated.. didn’t see the centering issue with sports illustrated for some reason though.. guess it’s a size thing

On 4/8/2022 at 9:48 PM, oakman29 said:

Are they secure? Then get over it.

Haha wow, thanks for the valuable input… just asking if it’s normal or not..  I payed to have them incapsulated by “the industry leader” and seems pretty half assed to not center the comics in the slab

On 4/8/2022 at 9:08 PM, oakman29 said:

Your slabs look like regular comics in a magazine sized holder, go figure.

These are both oversized comics, neither come close to fitting in a regular sized slab unfortunately. 

On 4/8/2022 at 8:57 PM, darkstar said:

No they aren't supposed to look like that. Doesn't even appear that they've slabbed those two using the correct size. You're just another victim of a company asleep at the wheel. Slabbed mag should look like this:

 

I have no idea what the dimensions are on those foreign editions you posted and it would appear CGC doesn't either. 

They are bigger than what fits in a normal comic slab but smaller than a full sized magazine like you pictured. 

On 4/8/2022 at 8:48 PM, Axe Elf said:

If you whack 'em really hard against the wall, do they scoot over to the other side, or are they permanently affixed closer to one side than the other?

No its not shaken comic syndrome. The inner well is set in this off center position

I’ve seen others set off center just like mine.. here’s some quick examples I found on eBay 

wondering it’s worth the hassle to send in as a ME or if CGC truly set these mags like that on purpose 😵‍🥴

i just wanted to throw a question out there.. is it normal for magazine sized slabs to be off center? I have seen ton of examples on eBay and Instagram that were off center and just got my 1st mag submission back and 2 were very off center. Is this normal? should cgc fix this? I’m not super OCD but some are and this would drive them nuts.

thanks

On 3/24/2022 at 2:14 PM, shadroch said:

I agree but it seems CGC doesn't have any experts in the field.  If I was in charge of CGC, it would be on my list of things to see get done, but not at the top.  I might put it before recruiting some new private signings but below improving turn around times and getting new staff.

Someone today posted they were at 14 months waiting for a book they had pressed and slabbed.  Now may not be the best time to put a lot of work into improving a niche market.  First you put out the fires, then you weed the lawn.

Agree 100%, they definitely have bigger fish to fry.. but what do they do in the mean time.. the foreign census is growing rapidly every day.. I was under the impression they purchased a large database of foreign comic information.. i have actually been impressed that they knew what some of the books I sent them were.. although I sent them some Indonesian Batman comics they def didn’t label correctly and had no info on label  

On 3/24/2022 at 1:36 PM, shadroch said:

Has anyone estimated what percent of the census are foreign copies, editions, variants , whatever you want to call them.

I agree CGC is doing a horrible job of labeling them and needs to step up and do a better job on them. I'm just wondering if it makes sense ,at the present moment, to divert resources in this. It appears no one there is expert on these and its such a small niche that resources may be used more strategically . Is there a database where this information is easily available? I don't think you can expect CGC to research each odd book they get, especially if the book is in a language the graders don't understand.  

I have a spanish language comic titled  La Patrulla X.  At the top of the comic it says Segunda Edicion  and on the bottom it says #1. 

If I call it Patrulla X and list it as such, I'm missing  95% of my prospective buyers.  If I call it  Giant size X-Men #1( Spanish Edition),  a lot more eyes will see it. 

If someone asks me if I'm interested in buying a spanish language GS X-Men #1, they have my attention. If they ask if I'm interested in a La Patrulla X second edition, not so much. 

It seems like CGC could use a foreign comic expert.  Has anyone offered their services?

 

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Foreign comics is from what I hear from others and have seen is of the fastest growing segments of comic collecting. I import and used to sell a ton of foreign comics and the past 12 months the interest and prices have exploded. Regarding your Spanish X-men comic it would be labeled as giant size xmen 1 Spanish edition second printing. The original edition was printed about 10 years prior. If your selling foreigns on ebay you definitely want to list it by its American counterpart name otherwise like you said you will miss 95% of buyers. Most of my sales were to first time foreign buyers who loved a certain American book and didn't realize it had foreign counterparts. 

On 3/23/2022 at 10:03 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Yeah, it's a gnat's arse of a mistake and I'd forgive it if everything else salient was as it should be.

It doesn't pay to look too closely at examples, I've found, as there are as many individual mistakes to be found as there are strategic ones. 

Look at this one below - they render the actual title to the third line footnote, which is the strategic problem, but then get it wrong as well. It clearly says (in German) 'The Mighty Hulk':

 

Looks like you must have found me on Instagram or Facebook since that’s a book I just got back last week! I too am confused as why they didn’t put the entire German title and instead just sub labeled it hulk 1.. I’ll stay out of the argument since I’ve already shared my opinion which seems to be the way that CGC is heading (or has been doing it for over a year now). I do enjoy hearing opinions from both sides though.. 

On 2/16/2022 at 12:13 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

This book predates their strategy change, so they would have gone with the actual book title Gary. AUS Reprints lists it as 'Superboy Comics' but they may have gone for the GCD title which is just 'Superboy'. I haven't seen the indicia myself, so don't know what that says - if anything. 

@steve566 Steve - any idea which is the correct title for this one?

I'm not too familiar with superboy but if that is the superboy 1 cover then the new labeling strategy would call it Superboy 1 Australian edition.. word on the street is Heritage is going to hold an all foreign edition auction so it seems like the CGC announcement will be in alignment with the heritage auction announcement