Hello,
I need the boards help regarding a dispute I have with a presser. He lost two of my comics and has offered to pay me amount much less than their value.
I’m not saying the name of this person- I replaced his info with 'Presser' in the email string. I don’t want to share his info if I’m out of line on this.
The comics are Hulk #180 and X-Men #94.
In April of last year I sent 48 books to X for pressing and forwarding to CGC, he processed the 46, but called me in early June to tell me that these two were stolen. He apologized and said he would keep me updated; his attorney sent me a couple of emails about the process.
Later, on June 24th he emailed me those comics were not lost, he had misplaced them instead and they were working on them. Later on the phone He said he would submit the two without charging me because of the mix-up. I said thank you for the kind gesture.
In February of this year I called him to see if the two books had been submitted. He said he wasn’t sure and then said they were lost. Needless the say this was a shock. We then began to talk about options to resolve this via text.
Below is the text string – This is my first action since that last text.
Bottom line is we agreed on a value of 6.0 for each book.
He offered $900 based on combined 2020 GPA values and I want $2,100 for 2021 GPA values. Since he led me to believe he had the comics as recently as June 24th, 2021, reimbursement value should be based on that.
I am asking your advice – your thoughts?
EMAIL STRING:
Presser
Feb 17, 2022, 9:59 AM
to me
As best as I can tell, they both look like they would be 6.0's ish after press, would you agree?
-Presser
Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
Feb 17, 2022, 1:07 PM
to Presser
Hi Presser,
I think that's about right. What's the best way to find the value?
Chris
Presser
Feb 23, 2022, 9:20 AM
to me
I use gpanalisys.com. This tracks sold cgc books, and then I look at 6.0 2021 average.
Hulk 180 averaged $550
X-Men 94 averaged $370
Raw is worth less, but to be fair I give the books the benefit of the doubt.
So I would be willing to do a total settlement of $950.
Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
Feb 24, 2022, 4:49 PM
to Presser
Presser,
I think using GPA works, however you used 2020 averages. 2021 averages are $954. and $1175.
That totals $2,129.
I would except that.
Chris
Presser
Feb 25, 2022, 7:56 AM
to me
Okay, but it's including time after incendent, so your value includes data after the fact. My original offer stands, and is fair considering the books are raw.
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:49:24 PM
Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
Feb 25, 2022, 6:15 PM
to Presser
Presser,
Your email said you would use 2021 numbers from GPAanalysis, but you quoted 2020 numbers.
You need to stick to your word and use 2021 numbers.
As recently as a few months ago you said you would submit the comics and pay for the cgc grading and slabbing cost because of the delay.
When I followed up with you, you tell me you didn't have them. What am I to believe? First you say they're stolen now you can't find them even though you implied you had them.
This is not acceptable.
Chris
Presser
Feb 26, 2022, 8:22 AM
to me
2021 was a typo. I am sorry about this whole ordeal. Total losses exceed 60k, but insurance payout was 35k. I am taking a huge loss, in an attempt to make everyone else whole.
This isn't a buy and sell, this is me trying to do the right thing. I can't afford what you are requesting.
Keep in mind we are using GPA average, but I could be going be lowest sale.
While my offer isn't a boon, I feel it's within the fair range, and I won't be pressured for more.
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Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
Feb 27, 2022, 10:06 AM
to Presser
This is not acceptable Presser.
I empathize that the theft was a bad deal and very expensive for you. Our issue is a separate matter and I should not be shortchanged because of that. You have a responsibility to make this right.
You received my books, told me they were stolen, then told me they weren't stolen, then told me you lost them and now want to pay me much less then they are worth. I want to resolve this, but not at $900 using 2020 values.
I am trying to think of ways to solve this:
Do you have any comparable slabbed books?
If we can't come to an agreement, then I will pursue other options such as court, BBB etc.
Chris