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    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/24/2022 at 10:24 AM, jas1vans said:

    I may have missed this, but did you submit the books through your own CGC account or the presser's?

    If this is through the presser's account and you go scorched earth right now, you may be out more than two books when all is said and done.

    I checked with CGC and the books were submitted under the presser's account with delivery to my home.  Don't know if the presser can pull them back.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/23/2022 at 5:51 PM, CGC Mike said:

    This is the 3rd thread you have started.  The first was in marketplace probations.  The second was in the grading forum.  I merged the two, and moved them to comics general.  I have now merged this 3rd thread.  Do not start another one.  

    Will do.   I started the last one because it contained all the details of the transaction.  I did not realize the threads would be merged.  My mistake.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/23/2022 at 2:47 PM, shadroch said:

    The books were stolen. You should get the value of the books on the day they were stolen. Not todays value, nor the value when you sent them. 

    Look up GPA for the day on the police report or on his insurance claim.  If you were happy with the 46 books he did, why not take some future credit as part of the deal. 

    He offered 900. You want 2100.  Would $1500 and $500 in credit work for you?  Something along those lines? 

    That's resaonable.  The 46 are with CGC so I haven't seen his work, but he has a very good reputation.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/23/2022 at 2:29 PM, Tnexus said:

    I guess if it's possible, I would find out what insurance claim he had in the first place, and how it relates to your comics. If damages were in the 60K plus range, that pretty much limits it to a fire or theft. If it was water damage, they still would exist. I could maybe see that stuff was stolen, but then your comics weren't listed in the theft, then discovering they actually were stolen well after the fact. However, it still seems fishy. Something really doesn't add up.

    I think I will reach out to his  attorney who was handling the stolen books and tell them that I need settlement because they were stolen/lost.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/23/2022 at 2:19 PM, Lpgk said:

    A part of me wishes you don't resolve this so you can out the presser here so others can avoid him/her. 

    However, even with the sketchy details from his end, it would probably behoove you to settle. You want 2021 slabbed prices, he is offering 2020 raw prices. I would compromise to some level that you could go out in the marketplace and just replace these books, even with a slight loss if need be. 

    I seriously doubt this guy has any insurance, and what insurance company would take a policy on this? What business policy would cover the liability of thousands of dollars of books with this type of business? It sounds like a smokescreen to give him some legitimacy. If you push him and even win in small claims, collecting is another matter entirely. Are you going to hire a lawyer and go to another state for small claims for a couple grand? 

    In the big picture here, you may have to settle for close to raw prices, if you're lucky. If you have a take a small L, move on. Lesson learned. 

    Thanks for the thoughtful post Lpgk,  small claims court is a hassle and collecting (if I win)  could be a problem- good point.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    On 3/23/2022 at 11:41 AM, Funnybooks said:

    If he has not responded to your last email, it becomes apparent that you will have very little recourse than to take him to small claims and/or disclose his name. I would send another email and an official, certified letter to his business address.
    Would this presser happen to be here on the boards? You may be able to enlist an intermediary, a friend, here to communicate your intentions.
     

    Thanks for the advice Funnybooks.  I do not know if he is on the boards, but I like the idea of an intermediary.

    Need advice on dealing with a Presser who lost two of my books- where to post this?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    Hello,

     

    I need the boards help regarding a dispute I have with a presser.   He lost two of my comics and has offered to pay me amount much less than their value.

    I’m not saying the name of this person- I replaced his info with 'Presser' in the email string. I don’t want to share his info if I’m out of line on this.

    The comics are Hulk #180 and X-Men #94.

    In April of last year I sent 48 books to X for pressing and forwarding to CGC, he processed the 46, but called me in early June to tell me that these two were stolen.  He apologized and said he would keep me updated; his attorney sent me a couple of emails about the process.

    Later, on June 24th he emailed me those comics were not lost, he had misplaced them instead and they were working on them.  Later on the phone He said he would submit the two without charging me because of the mix-up.  I said thank you for the kind gesture.

    In February of this year I called him to see if the two books had been submitted.  He said he wasn’t sure and then said they were lost.  Needless the say this was a shock.   We then began to talk about options to resolve this via text.

    Below is the text string – This is my first action since that last text. 

     

    Bottom line is we agreed on a value of 6.0 for each book.

    He offered $900 based on combined 2020 GPA values and I want $2,100 for 2021 GPA values.  Since he led me to believe he had the comics as recently as June 24th, 2021, reimbursement value should be based on that.

    I am asking your advice – your thoughts?

     

    EMAIL STRING:

    Presser

    Feb 17, 2022, 9:59 AM

    to me

    As best as I can tell, they both look like they would be 6.0's ish after press, would you agree?

    -Presser

     

    Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>

    Feb 17, 2022, 1:07 PM

    to Presser

    Hi Presser,

    I think that's about right.  What's the best way to find the value?

    Chris

     

    Presser

    Feb 23, 2022, 9:20 AM

    to me

    I use gpanalisys.com. This tracks sold cgc books,  and then I look at 6.0 2021 average.

    Hulk 180 averaged $550

    X-Men 94 averaged $370

    Raw is worth less, but to be fair I give the books the benefit of the doubt.

    So I would be willing to do a total settlement of $950.

     

    Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>

    Feb 24, 2022, 4:49 PM

    to Presser

    Presser, 

    I think using GPA works, however you used 2020 averages. 2021 averages are $954. and $1175.  

    That totals $2,129.

    I would except that.

    Chris

     

    Presser

    Feb 25, 2022, 7:56 AM

    to me

    Okay,  but it's including time after incendent, so your value includes data after the fact. My original offer stands, and is fair considering the books are raw. 

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    From: Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
    Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:49:24 PM

    Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>

    Feb 25, 2022, 6:15 PM

    to Presser

    Presser, 

    Your email said you would use 2021 numbers from GPAanalysis, but you quoted 2020 numbers.

    You need to stick to your word and use 2021 numbers.

    As recently as a few months ago you said you would submit the comics and pay for the cgc grading and slabbing cost because of the delay. 

    When I followed up with you, you tell me you didn't have them.  What am I to believe?  First you say they're stolen now you can't find them even though  you implied you had them. 

    This is not acceptable. 

    Chris 

     

    Presser

    Feb 26, 2022, 8:22 AM

    to me

    2021 was a typo. I am sorry about this whole ordeal.  Total losses exceed 60k, but insurance payout was 35k. I am taking a huge loss,  in an attempt to make everyone else whole. 

    This isn't a buy and sell,  this is me trying to do the right thing. I can't afford what you are requesting. 

    Keep in mind we are using GPA average, but I could be going be lowest sale. 

    While my offer isn't a boon, I feel it's within the fair range,  and I won't be pressured for more. 

    Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
    Get Outlook for Android

     

     

    From: Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>
    Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 6:15:43 PM

    Chris Hooper <chris.t.hooper@gmail.com>

    Feb 27, 2022, 10:06 AM

    to Presser

    This is not acceptable Presser.

    I empathize that the theft was a bad deal and very expensive for you.  Our issue is a separate matter and I should not be shortchanged because of that. You have a responsibility to make this right.

    You received my books, told me they were stolen, then told me they weren't stolen, then told me you lost them and now want to pay me much less then they are worth. I want to resolve this, but not at $900 using 2020 values.

    I am trying to think of ways to solve this:

    Do you have any comparable slabbed books?  

    If we can't come to an agreement, then I will pursue other options such as court, BBB etc.

    Chris

     

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    in Mixed Age Threads and Misc

    Posted

    On 6/24/2021 at 4:22 PM, bounty_coder said:

     

    Black Panther #1 7.0 $70   Front
    - Light accumulation of non-color breaking defects
    - Color breaking bend to lower right corner
    - Spine Tick
    - Wear to bottom left corner
    Back
    - Could use a cleaning
    - Bend to upper Left Corner

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    On 6/24/2021 at 4:30 PM, bounty_coder said:

     

    Spectacular Spider-Man #1 8.5/9.0 $60  
    Looks NM head on. Has improvable defects present when angled to bright light.
    Could improve to 9.4.

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    PGM ASM #37

    in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?

    Posted

    On 6/14/2021 at 4:12 PM, silverseeker said:

    7.0 for me as well...it looks like there's a small tear on the robot's knee on the front cover and a small stain at the upper left corner of the back cover...am I seeing these things correctly?

    Yes on small tear, I don't remember a stain on the back though.   I've already sent it to CGC so I cannot confirm.....:frown: