Newerthannew

HI again

Here is the link to the gofundme page, in case anyone wanted to help out:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/let-us-help-save-uncle-hugo039s?fbclid=IwAR0FBJGFkNnhPi9VORxm2nOD6UJRq9xir77G_jaBQRv_yZI2mmVajsWXaJM

Thanks

Trace

Hi everyone

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Independent-Bookstore/Uncle-Hugos-Science-Fiction-Bookstore-Uncle-Edgars-Mystery-Bookstore-279865741666/

Rioters burned the place down, maybe the comics community could help some way?

Thanks

Tracey Heft

I was just reading this thread and it was interesting to see a list on rare/scarce titles. I did notice that none of the "regular" (i.e. non-cartoon) books are listed as scarce or rare - which I find interesting, especially if one considers grade - there can't be many examples of high grade Whitman's in the world, can there? Case in point, this Star Trek on Comiclink:

http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch%2Easp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dstar%2Btrek%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item%5F820040&id=820040

How rare is something like this? Top census (both Gold Key and Whitman copies), white pages and a whitman to boot? Just wondering if anyone else has any high-grade copies like this to show?

Tracey Heft

www.eclipsepaper.com

Hi All:

Saw this:

If the book is restored by a professional restoration/conservation expert, then I would consider them equal value. However, our hobby places a stigma on such books and hence the market adjusts accordingly. Personally, an expertly restored book where paper has been deacidified, spines reinforced, tears sealed, etc., one could even argue is now in a better state than a non-restored copy with soiling, tears, rolls, etc.

 

A non-professional restored book? I wouldn't touch it in a million years.

 

I feel the only type of "bad" restoration is the kind that removes anything from the book i.e. trimming.

 

This is pretty much my own feeling... The only thing I would add is that the extensiveness of the restoration should play a part in determining final value, i.e.

 

Professional, slight = 90/100% of Universal

Professional, moderate = 60/90% of Universal

Professional, extensive = 40/60% of Universal

Amateur, slight = 40/80% of Universal

Amateur, moderate = 30/40% of Universal

Amateur, extensive = 10/30% of Universal

 

And then there are types of restoration to factor in, like, tear seals (+5%), colour touch(-10%), deacidification (+10%), pieces added (-20%), etc.

 

The above numbers are straight out of my arse, so are subject to change, derision, and revision at any time... but, they are my precise feelings on the subject of valuation of restoration.

 

Here's an example...

 

Marvel Mystery Comics #9 CGC 9.2 Restored, Professional, Moderate

 

Overstreet Guide Value is 58,000

Moderate restoration....... 52,200

 

Restoration includes

tear seals (3).................. 60,900

colour touch................... 54,810

pieces added (2)............. 43,938

staples replaced............. 41,741

deacidification................ 45,916 as the final value

 

OK... there's a basic flaw in that math... my apologies! I had done it taking the percentage from the price above, which would give a different total depending on the order the restoration was listed in Here it is again, with the precentages being constant from the Moderate (P) mark...

 

Overstreet Guide Value is 58,000

Moderate restoration....... 52,200

 

Restoration includes

tear seals (3).................. 60,030

colour touch................... 54,810

pieces added (2)............. 33,930

staples replaced............. 31,320

deacidification................ 36,540 as the final value

Back in 2004, I posted the following (portions of which are no longer relevant but since the topic is coming around again):

 

Hi all

 

Been reading this (and other threads) for awhile now. I'm glad to see someone, other than myself, raise this point about the PLOD and a new system for resto. Funny thing is, as Poverty knows (and probably FF), I worked out a new system, LAST YEAR, that grades restoration point by point, creating a separate numerical value for restored books.

 

I conducted a series of surveys and from the responses I received from the dealers I know and collectors I trust, I devised a rating system. Having tested it on the work that my clients have submitted to me, I know it works and is fairly accurate when applied to values and I believe that it would revolutionize the whole restoration marketplace.

When I use my restoration grading system, the end result generates a percentage of alteration (and thus, a percentage of originality) and value is based on that percentage (call it a multiplier). If anyone is curious, the link is here:

www.restorationeducation.com/restoration_grading_system.htm

It is my hope that restored books can be viewed in their proper context and that conservation will be sought out and restoration understood and accepted.

Tracey Heft

www.eclipsepaper.com

www.restorationeducation.com

www.solsticecomics.com

2003 for me, but I know I was lurking for about a year (or two) before that.

Tracey Heft

www.eclipsepaper.com

 

ComicLink has a Pulp section now. You can try selling it there at a fixed price. Or submit it to ComicLink for one of their featured auctions. They will happily take it!

Heh. Tried that. Nothing against Josh, maybe I'll call him tomorrow but LONG story, short - I convinced Josh to start listing pulps. He was only interested in my 3 best and at a higher consignment than for the comics - which is neither here nor there, but he never got back to me with some answers to questions that I asked.

And I'm still waiting for him to unlock my account so that I can post some of my other pulps on the regular listings - been waiting since Dec 12. All in all, I don't want to hassle Josh with endless emails just to post a couple of pulps, but maybe it is time to send him another round of emails to keep the ball rolling....

Thanks

Trace Heft

www.eclipsepaper.com

First, congrats on the pick-up! I've always thought that Weird Tales Dec 32 is one of the top 5 pulps and certainly as hard to find as any of the top 5. But....

I'm confused!

For the last year (or two) I've been trying to find an outlet to move my high grade/killer copy and I can't seem to find anyone who is serious about carrying it in their auctions. I've even tried some private buyers but no-one seems to be willing to pay semi-serious money to own a high grade copy of this issue.

I'm not trying to troll for buyers with this post, just wondering why if this is a desirable pulp (and I think it is or should be!) can I not get someone to auction it on their site?

Maybe I need to wait until Conan is as hot as Avengers and then people will be knocking on the door....

Until then, I have a copy of this up for grabs if anyone wants to email or pm me

Cheers

Tracey Heft

www.eclipsepaper.com

Hi

Enjoyed reading this thread and thought you all might enjoy looking at this copy I have in my hands.

I have a few other REH pulps, but this is, I think, one sweet copy of a very hard to find pulp!

Tracey Heft

Greetings

I've finally decided that it's time to post to these forums (long overdue some might add). In regards to FF's question about shortwave UV light for detection of restoration, here is an explanation of how UV radiation works from UVP's catalog:

"An interesting characteristic of UV radiation occurs when it falls upon certain substances known as phosphors, wehre it causes the phosphors to emit specific radiation. This phenomenon is known as fluorescence. "

"One effect of UV energy upon certain substances is a phenomenon that takes place at the atomic level. High frequency UV protons collide with atoms and part of the photon's energy is transferred to the atoms by boosting electrons to the high energy states. Upon de-excitation, as electrons fall back to lower energy states, energy is released as photons of light. Since only a portion of the incoming photon's energy was transferred to an electron, these emitted photon's have less energy than the incoming UV photons so their wavelengths are longer than the excitation photons. This process is called fluorescence."

I would think that shortwave would work just as well at detection of restored areas as longwave, but due to the extreme health hazard shortwave poses (we are talking waves in the vicinity of x-rays!!!) the gains wouldn't outweigh the health concerns.

Tracey Heft

Eclipse Paper Conservation