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3 hours ago, PaulS. said:

The surface grade is so low because the graders determined that the card is unfortunately sun-faded, not an error. 

Awesome, thank you! That answers my question. 

Hey, I just got viewed images of my graded submission and have a question about one of the cards. It's cert # 3842751004, my Japanese Blastoise. It was graded as a normal card, which is not what I was expecting.  I just want to check that the error was spotted because it is very easy to miss without a direct comparison with another of the same card. I think the card is a low/no red ink error (and maybe even green), which can be seen with the ability text. But I'm no expert; I'll 100% respect whatever judgement y'all render. I was just taken off guard by the regular grade and want to be thorough given the potential value of the card. 

I've attached a picture of the card and a comparison pulled off the internet. 

• Submission Type: Standard (4 error + subs, 1 regular + subs)
• Delivered: 3/22
• Received: 5/14
• Scheduled for Grading: Don’t know exact date but I think 5/18
• Grading/Quality Control: 5/28
• Finalized/Imaged/Shipped: Errors + subs - 6/7, regular + subs TBA

9.5 is exceptionally good. The vast majority of cards even fresh out of the pack will have some small dings. I’d think of it as the other way around, because PSA doesn’t give decimal grades and you’d have probably gotten a 9 instead of a 10 with them. I’ve personally never gotten a holo card graded a 10 from PSA and I’m waiting to hear back from CGC. There’s always something, even factory lines or small scratches. 

Definitely nice unlimited set. 1st edition and shadowless are soooo expensive so sticking with unlimited is smart. 

• Submission Type: Standard (4 error + subs, 1 regular + subs)
• Delivered: 3/22
• Received: 5/14
• Scheduled for Grading: Don’t know exact date but I think 5/18
• Grading/Quality Control: 5/28
• Finalized/Imaged/Shipped: TBA

6 hours ago, ptb pokemon said:

SO IF YOU SEND IN A SUBMISSION AND THE TURNAROUND TIME IS 30 DAYS AND ITS THERE FOR LONGER THAN THAT AND HASNT EVEN BEEN MARKED RECEIVED THEN YOU ARE NOW ON THE NEW TURN AROUND TIME OF 65?  MAN I HOPE NOT 

Yep. Anyone submitting should expect 45 business days + whatever the TAT posted says, because it can take up to 45 business days for the package to even be open and received. They’re currently opening packages from the week of 3/22/21. 

@Oreos That’s sounds like one hell of a scam. Essentially, any chance of recovering the stolen goods are thrown out the window considering the problem won’t be reported for 1-2 months after the fact (when CGC gets around to opening it). This could be a full on scheme of people identifying packages to CGC specifically. I’ve dealt with USPS for a package that got stolen/was never delivered, and I was basically mess out of luck. There’s gotta be some recourse if everyone takes the time to report it/file a police report, as well as CGC flexing their muscles a little bit. 

Gotta trust CGC’s microscopes on this. We probably won’t be able to tell based on the images. If the counterfeiters do their job correctly, it is super hard to notice and is one of the reasons why we use grading companies like CGC. 

There’s gotta be some recourse. What about proof of purchase price or attempted sales? For example, I submitted cards I purchased for waaay less than my declared value and have a history of trying to sell them for less too, but CGC could turn around and say they’re worth more than that. I feel like proof of the market should carry more weight than some subjective opinion. Or are you just mess outta luck? 

My question is, what percentage of those are junk cards? How many of those will be worth $50+ after grading? 

On 5/17/2021 at 9:18 AM, Officer_wiggum said:

I sent my cards over 40 days ago how long does it take to get into the system?

My cards took 40 business days to go from delivered to received. The best tool is checking the TAT page, where they have the specific week they’re currently working on. Right now that’s the week of March 22nd, so those packages are being opened. 

Submission Type: Standard (5 cards) - 4 error + subgrades, 1 regular + subgrades
Delivered: 3/22
Received: 5/14
 

9 hours ago, Unlikely7 said:

Update:

• Submission Type: Standard (11 cards) - subgrades
• Delivered: 3/15
• Received: 3/31
• Scheduled for Grading: 4/30

Damn you had a standard order delivered 3/15 and it has made that much progress? Mine delivered one week later, 3/22, has yet to be received.

22 hours ago, PaulS. said:

Non Factory-Cut cards can only occur when uncut sheets are available. There are none of this set, so it is clearly a genuine error. Very cool!

 

Paul

Hey Paul, is there anyway of knowing which sets have sheets? I have WOTC square cuts that I am 100% positive came from sheets, but I also have a Burning Shadows Magikarp that is square cut. I guess my question is, at what point in Pokémon card production did uncut sheets stop becoming available? After WOTC? 

No, I think this would just get a poor grade on centering. Definitely still could get an 8 (or better) no doubt in my mind. 
 

Here’s some example cards I have. I’m not sure if the one on the left would receive an OC grade for centering, but I’m confident the second would and would be an error as well. 

2 hours ago, TheRealGritty said:

For People tracking STANDARD MOVEMENTS --- Please see updates above.

 

Appreciate your update. 

2 hours ago, HomeGrownPoke1 said:

They changed it the 22nd this past weekend. Then changed it back to the 15th Tuesday and now back to the 22nd today... Idk how accurate it is like the tat.....

I noticed that too. I think they’re onto the 22nd for realzies this time. That’s when mine was delivered so fingers crossed. 

On 5/4/2021 at 4:33 AM, Jack13 said:

UPDATE:

Economy 10 cards w/ subgrades 

Received: 1/5/21

SCHEDULED FOR GRADING: 5/3/21

Glad for you Jack! 

1 hour ago, Domo Arigato said:

Perhaps you should try respecting what these grading companies are dealing with right now in terms of an unexpected wave of volume. 

This mess isn't the fault of the grading companies.  There was no way to predict this.  So.....let's see if you can figure out who's fault it is.

 

Well it’s not my fault either that CGC now gives an expected TAT twice that of what it was when I submitted. I know its my fault that I need to move to start a job in a few months, but it’s certainly reasonable to try and pay extra to make it still work or just get my cards back ungraded, once again. I already know I should have just spent the money in the beginning, but the turnaround time was half what it is now and reasonable for my situation. I’m just trying to get my standard submission cards back within four months bro and it’s not looking like that’s going to happen, so I want to get them back ungraded and they’re saying no.
 

And it is absolutely CGC’s fault. They can’t predict the influx but they must have known for quite some time that they were going to make this policy change, yet never informed customers until the change. Further, CGC could have the policy of grandfathering people for two weeks, just like they gave warning to people before the price hike. I couldn’t cancel my order and resubmit as walkthrough even if I wanted to. 

3 minutes ago, Courageous Cat said:

Brother , this aint Walmart. Heres one for ya, last month I called to see if I could add imaging to each book for 5.00 each and received a response of yes, no problem since the were only checked in. Well, guess what? Neeeever happened 

There’s another thread of a user who got full on approval over the phone to modify his or her order, and the same thing happened. CGC is saying no now and acts like that never happened. 

I’m not expecting Walmart level service, just some respect for customers. Give them notice or grandfather them in if you’re making a significant change, just like how CGC handled the price increase. Or better yet, let your customers say no if they refuse your changes in service. CGC says I can’t even cancel now. 

9 minutes ago, Mephisto said:

 

This but seriously. I’ve had my mail stolen from my current apartment in less than a few hours, football cards from a PWCC auction that I never recovered. I submitted my very best error cards, including a one of a kind error Base Set Japanese Blastoise. I don’t want to lose that and would be willing to pay $100, $200, whatever so I don’t risk losing that. I know other solutions can be found, but right now I don’t know when or where my cards will be returned to, and that’s concerning. 

2 hours ago, Domo Arigato said:

Really?

You REALLY don't get this?

Do any of you submitting have any idea what's going on with the hobby right now?  I mean.......even the slightest hint? 

 

No I still don’t get it. My order hasn’t been even opened yet. If you read other threads, they discuss how all the orders are already in carts right now, so finding the ones to upgrade is literally finding a needle in a haystack. On the other hand, my hasn’t been put in the system yet, after over 30+ business days of siting there. I don’t see how earmarking my order and changing one value, conceivably achievable in the same step as registering it, isn’t worthwhile to the company given the hundreds of extra dollars in revenue for maybe a few minutes of time. Again, not changing an order already in the system, because mine hasn’t been entered yet. 
 

Further, I don’t see how the mail coming in affects the batch of mail from literally a month and a half ago. What’s true is that they’re short on staff. AND who cares because my end goal is preferring to just outright cancel my order, which they have refused. That would ease the burden on their end.

On 5/2/2021 at 8:22 PM, D1118 said:

"They are received and verified very quickly." 

You sure about that?

It’s going to be about two months (not business days) isn’t it? Two months from delivered to the package being opened - not anything else. The site said they were moving onto March 22nd deliveries, but now the site is saying they’re back again on March 15th. 
 

What? Probably 60 real days, or 40 business days, after delivery to open the package. I’m on business day 32, so only two more weeks. 

100% off center, and probably to the extent that it won’t get an OC grading. This would probably be dinged for centering, rather than it being any sort of good thing.

Here’s an example of a card that would probably get an off center indication and a card that would get an error designation. I (think) the first one wouldn’t get an error designation because it lacks an alignment dot, whereas the second is pretty obviously an error.