jaeldubyoo

You're free to invest in whatever you like. If you want to invest in comics, by all means invest in comics. My situation might be different than yours. It's called a wife. Now if I could convince my wife...

I actually had two of these. I remembered how much I enjoyed the Al Williamson art in the King Comic series, so I had to open one to see the interior art. I wasn't disappointed.

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Silver Surfer #4 for me. Also, I've always liked Silver Surfer #50.

I think you may have read too many romance comics.

But I get what you're trying to say. It is when some of the core members first get together as a "team" to use that term loosely.

I didn't buy the #1 until after I saw the movie. By that time, the price of #1 had gone up. I did manage to order 50 from an ad in TBG. But I had to pay 65¢ each (cover price was 30¢).

I was visiting my older brother and sister in San Jose, and my sister took me to Bob Sidebottom's Comic Collector Shop. It had a complete run of the Amazing Spider-Man on the wall behind the register, along with AF #15.

I was entranced.

 

At that time Spidey was up to #60 or something like that.

That was my first comic shop. I was going to school at SJSU. It was only a few blocks from campus. I got drawn in by the Mister Natural sign he had on the sidewalk in front of the store. I remember all the stacks of comics he had on the floor for a quarter each. That's where I bought my first back issue.

I went to a library sale. No comics, but I did pick up some magazines and books. I got some National Lampoon including a Frazetta cover. I got a few Mad magazines and books from the 50s and and 1 from the 60s, including one with a Frazetta back cover. All for only $11.

Maggie Thompson really touted this book way back when. TBG offered a copy with a subscription. Here's the copy I got from them.

I'm just wondering if the attitude of some of those who participated in this thread change any?

So with all the research you've done on not only creating this coin and developing the website, the best book you can come up with is Avengers Annual #7 as your initial offering. How long did it take to come up with this idea? Seems kind of half assed.

 

It was chosen as more of a gesture than anything else. It's the Avengers, Joss Whedon has mentioned it as one of his favorites and it's a high grade. CBC is meant to attract casual fans as well, and nearly everyone on the planet knows the Avengers.

 

And it provided an easy way to explain graded versus non-graded comic books to the non-collector. If you look on the website you will see that I use it almost as an educational tool for newbies.

 

Of course we are aware that the comic is not rare (and say so on the site). We are also aware that it is hardly a huge key book for collectors. However, and I know I will get disagreement on this, we do feel that the comic book will increase in value over the next few years (in that high grade) and we are happy with it.

 

However, once the coin is launched, that will probably not be indicative of the comic books we are seeking. First of all, most will probably be earlier than that one (1977) and far earlier is likely.

Your image, reputation, prestige, and goodwill took a hit when you chose this comic to launch your venture. If this comic "will probably not be indicative of the comic books we are seeking," then why start with it? Very poor choice IMHO.

 

 

 

 

Who's buying the comics??? You list on your website that ComicsPriceGuide values an Avengers #7 at $480. Hopefully you didn't pay that, or else you might have got took. Last real world sale was $281 and the average for the last year was $350. How do we know you (coiners) are spending our (coinees) money wisely??? If you are using ComicsPriceGuide prices as some sort of basis point we are not off to a good start already.

 

Jim

 

Jim

 

Actually the last real world sale was $410 for one grade below the one we own just a couple of weeks ago on EBay. We have confidence in Comics Price Guide, but they do lag sometimes in particular hot and cold books. But, that is not the reason we chose them.

 

We want the average person to be able to follow along. Comics Price Guide is open to all and is free. Yes, they do underprice and overprice some issues, but overall, they are excellent.

 

Now, I completely understand that you guys want GPA or Overstreet or any other edge to make your judgments. But, those cost money. The coin is meant to appeal to everyone, not just hard-core collectors. I think that serious collectors will find this fun too, particularly if they follow the crypto world as well.

 

But, we want the casual collector or even people who just like the movies but are interested in comics to have fun too. As stated on the website, if we feel that the Comics Price Guide is just way off the mark on a particular comic book, we will change the value to reflect that.

 

As a 9.6 Avengers Annual #7 just traded recently for $410, we just don't think that Comics Price Guide's value for a 9.8 is that far off. And, of course, auctions and other sales can fluctuate wildly as you guys know. But, we will be on the lookout for any big disparities. Plus, I am sure people will tell us loud and clear!

 

You're going to start the rollout with that comic? Seriously, you need to rethink your business plan if that's the best you can do. Even if I bought into the idea, that first comic would kill it for me. You'll not get much by showing how "small" the venture is. If I started something like this, I would start with a major key; if nothing else, to show you're serious.

B-b-but the first comic is a CGC 9.8 Avengers Annual #7...

O boy! A comic bitcoin. Who wants to do some mining?

When push comes to shove, I suspect most comic collectors would give up their Star Wars #1 before they would give up a superhero key. There is a stigma attached to 'movie' or 'TV' properties.

 

I think you might be underestimating the crossover appeal of the comic. There are far more Star Wars fans than comic collectors. If the new film is a hit, all it takes is a small fraction of the Star Wars fan base wanting the comic to send the demand through the roof.

This thread serves to remind me that there's a whole lotta speculating going on these boards.

But I will admit there's also a lot of good info shared.

I'm one that needs to be convinced about whether the Champions will be a winner.

However, you never know in this hobby. Who thought Guardians of the Galaxy would become such a hit?

"Half a truth is often a great lie." Ben Franklin

Amel views this practice with disdain (as any screenwriter should) but as comic book fans, hoping for the best Wonder Woman movie possible.

 

I think it is a brilliant idea versus being tied to one writer only, and hoping they get it all right.

 

Too many cooks spoil the broth...

I'm afraid you could end up with a disjointed movie.

I have to admit, if that's the way it goes, I wouldn't want them. The "grain" needs to run vertically, so if it gets bent, it doesn't crease the spine. Of course, when I cut my own, I will usually cut an equal number of pieces with the "grain" running both ways, for protection from bending in both directions. I always use at least one piece of double-layer when I have it, BTW, and that's the one with the "grain" running vertically.

 

 

 

-slym

+1

Cardboard bends much more easily along the grain. Common sense.

If you folks were paying attention about 9 years ago, Tec #474 enjoyed a moderate upswing as part of the whole "Countdown to Infinite Crisis" dealy...in which Deadshot played a prominent part.

 

Smart money bought then.

I guess I must have misinterpreted your post. My response was addressing the idea that 9 years ago Detective 474 was not in demand and nobody could have anticipated such a jump in demand and value. Of course nobody could have expected a movie announcement back then. I just wanted to emphasize that no one could have predicted how extenuating circumstances could cause such demand, especially 9 years ago. Hindsight is 20/20.

Then some insufficiently_thoughtful_person chimes in saying “Nine years is a blink of the eye, but not I guess, if you were in high school 9 years ago . . .” Sorry, but 9 years is a big chunk of one’s life unless you’re immortal.

I don't think he understands the Lyria's fundamental theory to collecting that states: once hot and now not - will be hot again.

 

Stolen from yours truly.

 

 

And many other collectors . . .

I’m very familiar with the concept of “once hot, not now.” In fact I heartily agree with it. In the past, like RMA, I bought multiple copies of Starlin Captain Marvel and Warlock comics. But the Detective 474 situation to me is different. I suspect most who bought Detective 474 prior to the announcement were fans of Batman and/or Deadshot or Marshal Rogers and probably didn't buy solely for investment. If you bought Detective 474 for investment prior to the announcement, I salute you.

The time to act (react) was immediately after the announcement. I get it. Not 9 years ago.

Smart money? Who buys such a comic and waits 9 years for it to suddenly become hot? Could you have predicted a movie announcement? Pure luck.

 

Maybe if you just retract this stoopid comment we can talk.

 

That's my opinion. Calling it stupid is not appreciated.

 

Another opinion, you're a real .

 

Your opinion that someone else's opinion is stoopid is ok though?

Where did I say anybody's opinion was stupid? I was saying it was lucky for those who had the comic that a movie announcement was made. Do a poll and see how many people bought multiple copies of that comic 9 years ago in anticipation of a movie. How many times have you heard this expression on these boards, "Who saw it coming?"

Honestly, do you think there were people stockpiling that particular comic because they were betting that there would be a movie announcement 9 years hence? I'm saying most people who have that comic are fortunate and should thank their lucky stars that the price went up because of the announcement. There was little demand for that comic after the initial interest died down. Why would Flying Donut sell one for $3.00 if he knew it was going to pop?

That's still my opinion. And you're still a .

Smart money? Who buys such a comic and waits 9 years for it to suddenly become hot? Could you have predicted a movie announcement? Pure luck.

 

Maybe if you just retract this stoopid comment we can talk.

That's my opinion. Calling it stupid is not appreciated.

Another opinion, you're a real .

I've been collecting for almost 40 years. And, yes, I do have Detective 474. I consider myself lucky. I consider myself lucky for having a lot of books that became hot. I'll be honest and say I did not think that some of them would be worth nearly as much as they are now.

The truth is, on comics like Detective 474, it's really something that becomes hot because of external circumstances, like a movie announcement. It was not a highly sought after book for years.

So tell me, how many Detective 474s did you buy prior to the movie announcement, thinking it would become a hot book?

Smart money? Who buys such a comic and waits 9 years for it to suddenly become hot? Could you have predicted a movie announcement? Pure luck.

Awesome! But why the heck is there a gap at #62-62? The gaps in most Showcase collections are at #4, #22, etc.

No love for the Inferior Five?