Phantomfil

On 2/1/2022 at 4:24 PM, valiantman said:

Playing devil's advocate, it is possible that the vast majority of newsstand comic holders (whether original purchases when new or "hoarders" in the years that followed) are either 1) not on eBay or they are not eBay sellers (many eBay users only buy) or 2) are not interested in selling for only a small profit (holding out for the future).

Where we have counter-arguments are situations like Ultimate Fallout #4 newsstand, which has sales of $1,000+ in any condition, and generally represents one of the highest profits possible for modern books - effectively eliminating argument 2) that the profit isn't enough.  That leaves "not on eBay" and "not an eBay seller" as the likely scenarios for "where are all the Ultimate Fallout #4 newsstand books that should exist?"

We have no proof that Ultimate Fallout #4 newsstand books aren't overwhelmingly in the hands of uninformed collectors who don't realize the value, but that doesn't give us much reason to expect a flood of them anytime soon.  "One clueless collector at a time" will definitely increase the number of newsstands sold (similar to how new copies of Action Comics #1 turn up), but it's not happening nearly as often as we should expect now that any half-decent copy of UF #4 newsstand has been thousands of dollars for a few years.  The Lifesuggs Barnes & Noble newsstand hoard of 2018 looked like it only had two copies in it, and he (and his supplier) knew exactly what they were doing.

Came across this thread searching for information on Ultimate Fallout #4 newsstand, then saw your post.   This resonated with me because i was on of these uninformed, clueless collectors and picked up a UF#4 newsstand from my local LCS.   In hindsight, I believe they were clueless as well because it was raw and in regular stock.  I collected in an era when newsstand was the majority of books, so I didn't even notice it was newsstand.   I knew it was 1st app. of Miles but thought it as minor key.   I just put it in the personal collection and didn't think about it.   Then 1 day I posted in a group for 1st appearance Friday.....someone told me what it was and to get it graded.  Thanks to that guy, i did.   I'm sure the numbers of newsstands are low but there could be others out there in hands of individuals or shops that don't know.  For time frame, i purchased from LCS in 10/2020

On 2/23/2022 at 10:34 AM, Jaydogrules said:

Where/what venue did it sell for that?  One that can actually be publicly verified this time (as.opposed to the other one you menthoned that also "sold privately")?

-J.

J.   Saw on another forum, $8100 owner said he saw it turn over for $25K several months later,  Did not say where.  He said it was the only CGC 9.8 Newsstand that he know of.   How many in that grade newsstand are known seems to be a mystery.

On 6/8/2021 at 11:52 AM, carefulsum said:

Well the Star Wars #1 35-cent is considered a variant right? However, I don't think newsstand is considered a variant but correct me if I'm wrong about that. Also SW#1 35c only had about 1,500 copies ever printed so it's pretty rare not sure how many copies of newsstand UF4#1 was printed.

But hey maybe a 9.8 would sell over $20K, I'm all for it cuz it's a great book and own a few copies of the regular ones myself.

Btw a 9.8 newsstand was sold on June 2020 for $8,100.

Was doing some research,  I couldn't find much information on UF4 newsstand til i came across these threads,  older thread but great info.   That UF4 9.8 newsstand that sold for $8100 in June 2020 resold months later for $25K,  another UF4 9.8 Newsstand cracking $27K this month 02/2022