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Annoying Keyword Spammer of the week...

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Solar

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Darth - Damn man, your reputation is costing me potential snipes! Stop bidding! tongue.gif

 

Rob - The spirit of eBay's rules are to make as much money as possible for eBay. I'll worry about nitpicking the spirit of the law in bible school or the Supreme Court, but not on eBay.

 

I'm not out to scam anyone or hurt anybody financially, just to expose my product to the largest possible number of interested people. Obviously I want to get CGC search hits from including that in the title. I just believe that my product is one that people searching for CGC will want to see. This is obviously not true for all people searching for CGC, but those people can easily keep scrolling past my three books.

 

As to your last point, who am I to say what is or isnt acceptable on eBay? I believe the only people who can judge that are those that run the company. Since my auctions weren't pulled, I'm guessing they didnt have a problem with them. As a matter of fact, you're the only person that's had a problem with them to this point. confused-smiley-013.gif

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but you're skirting the issue in the last question. Would it be good for comic book buyers looking to buy cgc graded books if every seller selling high grade material put "cgc ready" in the title. At that point it would be impossible to find the actual cgc graded books. It's a yes or no question.

 

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Solar

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It would be more time consuming for those who are only looking for CGC graded books.

 

It would be beneficial for those looking for CGC graded and gradable books.

 

Who is to say that people searching for CGC aren't looking for gradable books as well as graded books? I know that I personally would rather find ungraded material and grade it myself. I didnt do that with these books because I dont have enough stuff to send in to make it worthwhile yet (and I dont really collect ASM).

 

So, its good for some, bad for others confused-smiley-013.gif I'm an ebay dealer, not Mother Theresa. I'm one of the good guys on ebay, but it doesn't mean I have to be a puritan.

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My answer would be NO. It would not be good if you were looking for CGC material and got back ungradeds instead.

 

In Solar's Defense: if every spamming seller graded as well and was honest, then I'd be less perturbed at the barrage of ungraded "CGCready" [!@#%^&^] listed out there. But I think the CGC ready comment is best left in the description. Folks do search for "cgc" by description as well...

 

But Rob is right...if EVERYONE listed their stuff as CGC ready, we slabhunters would be swamped.

 

Personally Rob, and I know you probably already do this, narrow your seaarch parameters and go with something like " CGC" -(minus) "ready", or something like CGC + 9.4 + Amazing spider*

 

Use search rules to eliminate the Spam. But eBay doesn't help by not enforcing their RULES and POLICIES. Off topic: I found out my sister bought a VCD of Eddie Murphy Raw and Delirious on eBay? Last I checked VCDs were not allowed, at least I recall from buying PSX 2 games that were "burnt" or came from Asia (which are mostly pirated copies?" Now my sister has a non working/stalling/skipping impeerfect VCD copy. She is not eBay savvy and really she should have been protected from this sort of thing if ebay ENFORCED their "no copied media" policy and pulled that auction.

 

 

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rob_react

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If that's the way you see it, then so be it. I think it's pretty obviously a negative thing, but you don't see it that way.

 

I don't really see many CGC buyers operating that way- most CGC buyers want CGC books. If they wanted raw books they wouldn't be searching for CGC books. Maybe I'm just crazy but I see that as a pretty logical assumption.

 

I mean, when I search on "cgc" every day I certainly don't want to see raw books.

 

But, I'm not going to smash my head against a wall about it... do what you feel is right and I'll do the same.

 

 

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Personally Rob, and I know you probably already do this, narrow your seaarch parameters and go with something like " CGC" -(minus) "ready", or something like CGC + 9.4 + Amazing spider*

 

 

The only title I specifically search for CGC books is Daredevil and "CGC Daredevil" works just fine for that- except for in the case of the spammer that started off this thread that is.

 

I search "cgc" in order to see everything that is available because of my own varied tastes, to cultivate general market awareness and so that I can find interesting graded auctions for my blog.

 

Maybe I will filter- although it wouldn't have stopped either case present in this thread. With the spammer that started this thread there was no qualifier to filter and the only reason I gave Solar a hard time was because he was a board member- and that behavior sort of surprised me from someone who spends time around here; and he posted in the marketplace. I don't click through "cgc ready" auctions, so without his marketplace post I would never have brought it up.

 

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I am going to have to totally agree with Rob on this one. I search for "CGC" on a daily basis. The last thing I want is to find non-CGC'd books. It is really annoying as Rob said to have to filter through these. Especially when you can't tell from the title or thumbnails pic. So time is wasted in clicking on the auction aonly to find it's not what you want. If I wanted raw books to send to cgc I would search for something like "NM", "Mint", "HG".

 

Solar, you say you include CGC in your title to bring people who are interested in CGC to your auctions. That is keyword spamming, that is the exact purpose of it. E-bay policy says "Use of keywords, including (but not limited to) brand names, which are referenced for the purpose of attracting or diverting buyers to a listing is considered keyword spamming and is not permitted." For your information all comic books are CGC-ready. They will accept any and all conditions, from Lighthouse's Hulk 893whatthe.gif to Greggy's sissy books. confused-smiley-013.gif

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Some general observations: I loathe keyword spamming. The only excuses for it consist of rationalizations. I also get really ticked off having to open and read the auctiuons that are not relevant, and I get REALLY ticked if doing so wastes enought time that an auction closes before I have a chance at it. (That has happened - all of two times but that was two times too many).

 

What is needed is a Hobby Standard. For example, agreeing on a term such as CGCReady. Then one could search but have a useful thing to look for or to exclude. Of course, we would then probably see a bunch of dillweeds saying their G- books are "CGCReady".

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I would have to completely agree with Rob on this one.

 

Solar, let's put it this way: If 10,000 sellers listed 3 of their best conditioned books as "CGC it", that is a lot of stuff we would have to weed through in order to find the CGC books. Just a thought.

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Would it be good for comic book buyers looking to buy cgc graded books if every seller selling high grade material put "cgc ready" in the title. At that point it would be impossible to find the actual cgc graded books.

 

It certainly wouldn't, and I am certainly in the 'hate keyword spamming' camp. There is no justifiable reason for putting CGC in the auction title unless the book is CGC GRADED. It is a waste of everyones time.

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yup... I pointed out his ASM 129 in Gene's thread about investible/collectibles.. 27_laughing.gif I didn't take a look at the titles of the rest of them. The fact that they are quoting the nostomania.com price guide and the "convincing" table of percentage point increases makes me wonder who his dad really is?

 

 

it may be time to report these a la Oldguy's link... 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

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it may be time to report these a la Oldguy's link... 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

Here ya go, and with all the new item numbers included.

 

Let's all start reporting this guy to E-bay and see how many auctions we can get pulled. I'll make it easy for everyone.

 

1. Click here and enter your user name and password.

 

2. Cut and paste these item numbers (limit 10 per form) into the appropriate field on the next page.

 

2205446261, 2205447426, 2205448469, 2205450224, 2205451239, 2205452224, 2205463414, 2205464543, 2205532380, 2205536521

 

2205538120, 2205542018, 2205545265, 2205546741, 2205550076, 2205551405, 2205552754, 2205555068, 2205560518, 2205564035

 

2205576271, 2205580525, 2205638140, 2205696844, 2205700999, 2205702255, 2205703492, 2205709720, 2205711114, 2205712335

 

2205720137, 2205721683, 2205724656, 2205726253, 2205728021, 2205729660, 2205732203, 2205734870, 2205735352, 2205736646

 

2205738181, 2205740275, 2205742903, 2205744958, 2205746786, 2205750318, 2205752065, 2205754345, 2205928688, 2205931106

 

2205932236, 2205934474, 2205935687, 2205936334, 2205937805, 2205939286, 2205939974, 2205943381

 

3. Paste the following text into the "Comments" field:

 

This seller is keyword spamming by including "cgc" in all of his auction titles when none of his comics are CGC certified.

 

4. Uncheck the "e-mail me this message" field.

 

5. Rinse and repeat 5 more times (sellecting the next ten item numbers each time) to get all of his auctions reported. Just hit the "back" button in your browser to use the same form again.

 

There! Now you've done your part to teach this as.shole a lesson. thumbsup2.gif

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