Why do all comic guys look like Brad Pitt or Arnold?

[ashrael]

No body wants to see a pot bellied Super Man anymore than they want to see a wide-assed Wonder Woman.

 

Frazetta Wonder Woman

[nwpassage]

Comics haven't always portrayed men and women in this way. Kind of a modern phenomenon. I point to the golden age as an example, Lou Fine had no need to create muscle bound heroes. On the contrary, they were lean and well muscled, but no wise muscle-bound. I think Gil Kane would be the silver equivilant, with Jack Kirby setting the other course.

[joe_collector]

1) Havoc/Wolverine mini back in the 80's/90/s (can't remember when) where Wolvie actually looked the part...hairy, not very good looking, rosy cheecks and dis-proportionate forearms and legs...if anyone has not checked it out...that to me is the epitome of what Wolverine would look like....and yet I've never seen him look like this since.

 

That's because he looked like the product of a drunken one-night stand between Popeye and a Troll.

[VintageComics]

No body wants to see a pot bellied Super Man anymore than they want to see a wide-assed Wonder Woman.

 

Frazetta Wonder Woman

 

Frazetta ANY WOMAN!!!

 

[VintageComics]

1) Havoc/Wolverine mini back in the 80's/90/s (can't remember when) where Wolvie actually looked the part...hairy, not very good looking, rosy cheecks and dis-proportionate forearms and legs...if anyone has not checked it out...that to me is the epitome of what Wolverine would look like....and yet I've never seen him look like this since.

 

That's because he looked like the product of a drunken one-night stand between Popeye and a Troll.

 

But is was functional, which is very important...Wolvie needs room to house his claws in his forearms...they don't just dis-appear into thin air...and he is a drunk...and his looks should mimic or represent his powers (animal like instincts)...Wolvie shouldn't have been a rugged, good looking boy...

 

sometimes there is more to attraction than just good looks...confidence, aggressive behavior, being different...those are all things that attract people and that was probably Jean Grey's attraction to Wolvie when comparted to Summer's sterile, perfect clean cut image.

 

R.

 

 

[VintageComics]

Comics haven't always portrayed men and women in this way. Kind of a modern phenomenon. I point to the golden age as an example, Lou Fine had no need to create muscle bound heroes. On the contrary, they were lean and well muscled, but no wise muscle-bound. I think Gil Kane would be the silver equivilant, with Jack Kirby setting the other course.

 

Lou find was a master at that. Thank you for reminding me!

 

Early Kirby was also in that same vein..he changed afterwards (mid 60's). His early work is reasonably balanced and fluid.

 

R.

 

 

[fantastic_four]

When Michelangelo carved David, do you think he was doing it for only women to look at? The aesthetics of the human body aren't inexorably tied to sexuality.

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Umm, he carved it to satisfy his own sexuality (he liked men).

 

That's possible. It's also possible he was simply a humanist, stereotyped as liking men because he didn't exhibit an openly homophobic aversion to them. That same "you're either in or you're out!" sensibility is still alive and well today, and is at least somewhat evident in this thread.

 

I'm not necessarily gay simply for preferring to see a Johnny Depp or a Taye Diggs as opposed to a Tommy Lee Jones or an Edward James Olmos.

[DrWatson]

When Michelangelo carved David, do you think he was doing it for only women to look at? The aesthetics of the human body aren't inexorably tied to sexuality.

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Umm, he carved it to satisfy his own sexuality (he liked men).

 

That's possible. It's also possible he was simply a humanist, stereotyped as liking men because he didn't exhibit an openly homophobic aversion to them. That same "you're either in or you're out!" sensibility is still alive and well today, and is at least somewhat evident in this thread.

 

I'm not necessarily gay simply for preferring to see a Johnny Depp or a Taye Diggs as opposed to a Tommy Lee Jones or an Edward James Olmos.

Yes you are.

[1Cool]

I find the same effect happening in porn (not that I watch it but I hear stories). Porn guys are typically just an after-thought for most guys and its the girls that drawn in the crowds. This is evident in the 70 - 80's porn guys were normal guys and most not what you would call great looking. Now the guys are all have six-packs and come direct from the gym. If guys watch 80% of porn - then why do they need to look like hard-bodies.

 

Are most guys secretly gay?? Not that there is anything wrong with that!

[DrWatson]

(not that I watch it but I hear stories)

[joe_collector]

I'm not necessarily gay simply for preferring to see a Johnny Depp or a Taye Diggs as opposed to a Tommy Lee Jones or an Edward James Olmos.

 

I don't know, TLJ is one of my fave actors, and I've heard it said that Taye Diggs worship is a dead give-away.

 

Let me guess, your favorite movie is 300?

[VintageComics]

Hey I think TLJ is a terrific actor too and I love watching the guy. He can be so intense.

 

I grew up drawing male characters since I was 4 years old (IIRC) and have no problem admiring good looking men...and heaven knows I'm not gay.

 

There is a large emphasis put on looks in our society but there is no staying power in that. Looks pass, attitude, confidence, honesty...those things have staying power. If there is one thing I've learned from my girlfriend it's that woman look beyond good looks for a relationship.

 

(thumbs u

[brasseye]

Barry Ween

 

 

[goldust40]

(not that I watch it but I hear stories)

 

Man, has this thread been bread and butter for you.

[joe_collector]

If there is one thing I've learned from my girlfriend it's that woman look beyond good looks for a relationship.

 

Well Duh! She's going out with you, right?

[brasseye]

(not that I watch it but I hear stories)

 

I couldn't find that title in my collection either

[brasseye]

(not that I watch it but I hear stories)

 

Man, has this thread been bread and butter for you.

 

Andy, Andy, Andy... where to go with that little doozy, nice (thumbs u

[VintageComics]

If there is one thing I've learned from my girlfriend it's that woman look beyond good looks for a relationship.

 

Well Duh! She's going out with you, right?

 

 

[fantastic_four]

I don't know, TLJ is one of my fave actors, and I've heard it said that Taye Diggs worship is a dead give-away.

 

Let me guess, your favorite movie is 300?

 

I just saw No Country For Old Men this past weekend, and he was GREAT in it. That doesn't mean I can't see he's a pock-marked old dude with bad posture and a head that's slightly big for his body. I've only ever seen Taye Diggs in a photograph or two...I pulled his name out of the air because my girlfriend's sister likes him and because when I listed Edward James Olmos, I didn't want to give off the appearance of being racist, so I came up with a non-Caucasian who's attractive.

 

300 was definitely my favorite movie of last year, mostly for the depiction of ultimate bravery, machismo, and great battle sequences. I enjoyed seeing the muscular warriors, but found them being THAT muscular unrealistic, yet was easily able to forgive Snyder for it. And I was relieved they chose to go with them wearing the trunks, unlike Frank Miller's depiction in the graphic novel, where most of them were trunkless.

 

Some of the posts above compel me to repeat this -- human aesthetics are not necessarily tied to sexuality. Just because I can appreciate that some guys are attractive doesn't necessarily mean I want to have sex with them.

[brasseye]

If there is one thing I've learned from my girlfriend it's that woman look beyond good looks for a relationship.

 

Well Duh! She's going out with you, right?

 

True, and not all of us had to fall back on a family gathering, to meet someone willing to talk to them, date, etc, etc