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[GACollectibles]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

They probably wish we were talking about them.

 

Seriously though, who the f**k cares? Women do their own talking amongst themselves, and much of what they have to say consists of things that our fragile egos wouldn't be able to handle. In other words, they trash talk about men just as much as we do about women, it's just a different kind of trash talk.

 

Your post is a perfect example of how we, as men, have been trained to be apologetic for our male instincts. Countless thousands of women prosper off of those instincts in some capacity, whether it's posing for a few nude pictures, parading themselves in bikini's at a car show, or making pornography. The number of breast-enhancement surgeries performed in the U.S alone every year is staggering, not to mention the myriad of other cosmetic procedures undertaken for the same overall goal of becoming "sexy" and marketable to us. Despite all this, however, we are misogynists for noticing and commenting on all of these women who objectify THEMSELVES. Give me a break.

 

I won't apologize for being a man and wanting sex from a woman, and I don't expect a woman to apologize for the fact that she wants a man to provide for her, even though "providing" in a society where virtually everyone already has the necessities for survival means that she has to have a bigger house, a nicer car, and a better wardrobe than her neighbor. Men are slaves to sex and women are slaves to material possessions; each sex has to accept the other's shortcomings and weaknesses.

 

That is all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I almost didn’t respond but since this was bumped up again I felt compelled to respond. Not just because I am mentioned but because, in general, the ‘randy’ talk on the boards has been getting a bit out of hand lately:

 

No, I don’t wish you were talking about me.

 

I don’t disagree that there are some women who objectify themselves and seek out men who can provide material things. I am also bothered by the fact that some women go out of their way to objectify themselves and then get upset when they get exactly that kind of attention.

 

I however do not objectify myself and I expect not to be objectified. My experiences with Gemma and skypinkblu tell me the same about them.

 

Maybe you realize that you were making a sweeping generalization? If not, I’m sorry if the only women you’ve known have been material seeking but this does not describe me or any of the hard working women I call friends.

 

Regarding your question:

 

“Seriously though, who the f**k cares?”

 

There are some people here who should care, that is if they like being part of this community.

 

You said “Women do their own talking amongst themselves…” and this is true. Members of this community can talk about anything they like amongst themselves but there is a wide audience here. We don’t expect anyone to be apologetic about what they believe but we do expect people to be respectful and mindful that this isn’t a locker room where anything goes.

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

[comicparadox]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

 

 

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Thanks

 

As the father of a wonderful daughter, I hope that her world is populated more by people with a sense of decorum (or any sense at all) than by some of the losers whose messages have been posted here. Thanks, Dena, for sharing your sensible comments.

[Monkeyman]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

They probably wish we were talking about them.

 

Seriously though, who the f**k cares? Women do their own talking amongst themselves, and much of what they have to say consists of things that our fragile egos wouldn't be able to handle. In other words, they trash talk about men just as much as we do about women, it's just a different kind of trash talk.

 

Your post is a perfect example of how we, as men, have been trained to be apologetic for our male instincts. Countless thousands of women prosper off of those instincts in some capacity, whether it's posing for a few nude pictures, parading themselves in bikini's at a car show, or making pornography. The number of breast-enhancement surgeries performed in the U.S alone every year is staggering, not to mention the myriad of other cosmetic procedures undertaken for the same overall goal of becoming "sexy" and marketable to us. Despite all this, however, we are misogynists for noticing and commenting on all of these women who objectify THEMSELVES. Give me a break.

 

I won't apologize for being a man and wanting sex from a woman, and I don't expect a woman to apologize for the fact that she wants a man to provide for her, even though "providing" in a society where virtually everyone already has the necessities for survival means that she has to have a bigger house, a nicer car, and a better wardrobe than her neighbor. Men are slaves to sex and women are slaves to material possessions; each sex has to accept the other's shortcomings and weaknesses.

 

That is all.

 

[joe_collector]

Someone needs to stop dating strippers.

[DiceX]

Wow! How did I miss this thread?

I'm crude from time to time, but not disrespectful. I see why Dena's on the prowl.

 

 

[COI]

No, I don’t wish you were talking about me.

 

That was a joke, which is why I started my next paragraph with "Seriously though".

 

I am also bothered by the fact that some women go out of their way to objectify themselves and then get upset when they get exactly that kind of attention.

 

This was my main point. Sweeping generalizations aside for a moment, I believe in treating women (and everyone in general) the way they asked to be treated. A woman who objectifies herself deserves what she gets, just as a man who thinks he can buy sex or love from women deserves to be taken advantage of. If you are a hard-working woman who does not objectify herself by seeking out unhealthy attention (and I have no reason to believe you aren't) you shouldn't really be offended by how we talk about someone like Jenna Jameson. And I don't think you are anyway.

 

I however do not objectify myself and I expect not to be objectified. My experiences with Gemma and skypinkblu tell me the same about them.

 

Again, I treat people how they ask to be treated. And again, I don't think Gemma, skypinkblu or you should ever be offended by "locker room" talk about someone like Jenna Jameson. I was raised by women and most of my best friends are women, so despite appearances, I'm not some raging misogynist. A little bit of a spoonhole maybe, but not a misogynist.

 

Maybe you realize that you were making a sweeping generalization? If not, I’m sorry if the only women you’ve known have been material seeking but this does not describe me or any of the hard working women I call friends.

 

It would be hard to clarify my position on this without writing a 10,000 word essay, so I'll just agree that it was a sweeping generalization. But I do believe that men and women are instinctually attracted to certain things. That's not to say that individuals can't or won't rise above those instincts, but I've had long debates with many women about this topic and many of them who start out in vehement disagreement to my view tend to come around a little by the end of the discussion. I just don't have time to fully explain myself, nor is this the appropriate venue to do so. Knowing this, I should probably have kept my mount shut, but I sometimes get a kick out of making statements to stir the pot a little. Guilty as charged.

 

You said “Women do their own talking amongst themselves…” and this is true. Members of this community can talk about anything they like amongst themselves but there is a wide audience here. We don’t expect anyone to be apologetic about what they believe but we do expect people to be respectful and mindful that this isn’t a locker room where anything goes.

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Done.

 

Now that we got all that unpleasantness out of the way, give me your #.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[COI]

Someone needs to stop dating strippers.

 

Touché.

[COI]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

 

 

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Thanks

 

As the father of a wonderful daughter, I hope that her world is populated more by people with a sense of decorum (or any sense at all) than by some of the losers whose messages have been posted here. Thanks, Dena, for sharing your sensible comments.

 

Yes, because calling me a loser for a couple of random posts on this message board, not to mention your initial response to me, is a shining example of sensibility and decorum.

[seanfingh]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

 

 

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Thanks

 

As the father of a wonderful daughter, I hope that her world is populated more by people with a sense of decorum (or any sense at all) than by some of the losers whose messages have been posted here. Thanks, Dena, for sharing your sensible comments.

 

Yes, because calling me a loser for a couple of random posts on this message board, not to mention your initial response to me, is a shining example of sensibility and decorum.

 

I think you are a loser because you are wasting time that could be better spent on captioning the Hitler pressing video project.

[COI]

Don't you people ever wonder what Dena, Gemma, skypinkblue and the other women must think of your misogynist rantings?

 

 

 

 

Of course we are all tolerant of some tasteful adult humor but the sexual references in posts are getting too frequent. So fellas, please just temper those ‘basic instincts’ just a bit.

 

Thanks

 

As the father of a wonderful daughter, I hope that her world is populated more by people with a sense of decorum (or any sense at all) than by some of the losers whose messages have been posted here. Thanks, Dena, for sharing your sensible comments.

 

Yes, because calling me a loser for a couple of random posts on this message board, not to mention your initial response to me, is a shining example of sensibility and decorum.

 

I think you are a loser because you are wasting time that could be better spent on captioning the Hitler pressing video project.

 

Touché.

[october]

I won't apologize for being a man and wanting sex from a woman, and I don't expect a woman to apologize for the fact that she wants a man to provide for her, even though "providing" in a society where virtually everyone already has the necessities for survival means that she has to have a bigger house, a nicer car, and a better wardrobe than her neighbor. Men are slaves to sex and women are slaves to material possessions; each sex has to accept the other's shortcomings and weaknesses.

 

I have never dated a woman who wanted or needed me to "provide" for her, and I have never dated a woman who wasn't just as interested in sex as I was. Not sure what gold diggers you hang around with, but I can assure you that not all women fall into the neat little paradigm you outlined above. Aren't you in law school? Try dating some of your classmates instead of strippers.

[seanfingh]

Aren't you in law school? Try dating some of your classmates instead of strippers.

 

I have a lot of respect for Andy, but I'd get a second opinion.

[Monstro]

and most of my best friends are women

 

 

 

 

[Designer Toast]

But what about Kimbo ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[COI]

Not sure what gold diggers you hang around with, but I can assure you that not all women fall into the neat little paradigm you outlined above.

 

Gold-diggers? No. Value seekers? Yes. I date a lot and am far from rich (especially since I'm back in school), so obviously it isn't all about the bling. My initial statements consisted of a fair amount of hyperbole, just to stir the pot. I was bored. Again, guilty as charged.

 

Try dating some of your classmates

 

But I like hot women.

 

[october]

But I like hot women.

 

Man, you and Sean. No love for the lady lawyers?

 

Two of the hottest women I have ever seen were in my law school class. Maybe I got lucky.

[COI]

and most of my best friends are women

 

 

Yep, I prefer pie eating contests to sausage-fests. It's how I roll.

[seanfingh]

But I like hot women.

 

Man, you and Sean. No love for the lady lawyers?

 

Two of the hottest women I have ever seen were in my law school class. Maybe I got lucky.

 

There were many attractive ladies in my class and also many that I respect that are my colleagues to this day. But telling a guy who can swim in the stripper ocean to jump into the law school pond is just plain wrong.

[october]

But I like hot women.

 

Man, you and Sean. No love for the lady lawyers?

 

Two of the hottest women I have ever seen were in my law school class. Maybe I got lucky.

 

There were many attractive ladies in my class and also many that I respect that are my colleagues to this day. But telling a guy who can swim in the stripper ocean to jump into the law school pond is just plain wrong.

 

Depends on what you are looking for. Not a lot of long term potential with the stripper set, is there?

[GACollectibles]

I have never dated a woman who wanted or needed me to "provide" for her, and I have never dated a woman who wasn't just as interested in sex as I was.

 

Odds are at least one of them has seen a Star Wars movie.