Comiclink Auctions - Avengers & ASM prices through the roof

[VintageComics]

Last time I checked Comic Connect didn't have a if you press it you sell it with us policy.

 

 

Or an official, invitation-only 'Pre-Auction Preview Night' for The Usual Suspects. (thumbs u

 

If I had good customers that were local I would allow them to preview the books...wouldn't you?

Heck If I had a good customer that was any where, I would allow him in to preview the books.

 

Why not?

 

...and why wouldn't Comic Connect either?

 

It's not like any of these auctions don't want their books to sell...

 

R.

 

 

[Flaming_Telepath]

That's true. So you think Josh is letting certain people that are potentialilzing books have a look at the books in person to determine pressability potential with book in hand, and then he's shilling up the price on him/them? Sneaky if true. Is there any reason to believe it to be?

 

 

Why would Josh want to mess up a good thing? He's successfully taken all the best books away from Heritage.

 

He's getting 10% on EVERY sale. The AF 15 that sells for $37k he gets $3700. He Avengers 16 that sells for $2600 he gets $260.

 

He doesn't need to pull a bunch of BS to make a fortune.

 

It's like Las Vegas casinos. They don't need or want to cheat their customers. They are making too much legitimate money to even consider it.

 

I am not sure that an analogy likening ComicLink to a Las Vegas casino supports your point.

 

I supports me 100% because it is the CASINOS that don't want any hint of conspiracy that any casino may be cheating it's customers. They make millions legitimately, and any impression that Vegas cheats it's customers, whether true or not, only hurts them.

 

It's the same for Josh. He's got a great thing going. But if too many people start thinking the auctions are fixed, that will drive away business. That is why it is in Josh's bext long term interests to run a 100% honest operation.

 

 

 

 

 

CLink auctions are not necessarily 'fixed'.

 

However, certain individuals have an advantage over your average buyer. They know what's already at the top of its potential, and they know what has a few points yet to be squeezed out.

 

Now, that's not illegal. But it's certainly not fair.

 

And I'm not certain it's 100% honest.

[VintageComics]

FT do people necessarily need to see books in hand to know? Not always.

[Flaming_Telepath]

Last time I checked Comic Connect didn't have a if you press it you sell it with us policy.

 

 

Or an official, invitation-only 'Pre-Auction Preview Night' for The Usual Suspects. (thumbs u

 

If I had good customers that were local I would allow them to preview the books...wouldn't you?

Heck If I had a good customer that was any where, I would allow him in to preview the books.

 

Why not?

 

...and why wouldn't Comic Connect either?

 

It's not like any of these auctions don't want their books to sell...

 

R.

 

 

Roy, you either invite everyone...or you invite no-one.

 

What you don't do is invite a select few, lay out the terms of their continuing involvement, and keep the whole thing under the radar so that us simpletons think the game is all fair, above board and everybody's playing on a level field.

[Flaming_Telepath]

FT do people necessarily need to see books in hand to know? Not always.

 

Correct.

 

But instead of your 20% call rate from a scan...wouldn't it be lovely to have a 100% call rate?

[GACollectibles]

Last time I checked Comic Connect didn't have a if you press it you sell it with us policy.

 

 

Or an official, invitation-only 'Pre-Auction Preview Night' for The Usual Suspects. (thumbs u

 

If I had good customers that were local I would allow them to preview the books...wouldn't you?

Heck If I had a good customer that was any where, I would allow him in to preview the books.

 

Why not?

 

...and why wouldn't Comic Connect either?

 

It's not like any of these auctions don't want their books to sell...

 

R.

 

 

Roy, you either invite everyone...or you invite no-one.

 

What you don't do is invite a select few, lay out the terms of their continuing involvement, and keep the whole thing under the radar so that us simpletons think the game is all fair, above board and everybody's playing on a level field.

 

(thumbs u

[VintageComics]

Well I'm not going to speak for Josh or CC or Heritage or anyone else but if I was running a business I couldn't invite everyone because not everyone is local...but if someone wanted to arrange something I would try to accomodate.

 

Let's face it..someone looking at a $75 modern 9.8 ASM is not going to likely come in an inspect the book...but if I was a serious collector or business man and I was going to drop a potential 5 or 6 figures on an auction I'd make arrangements.

 

The person dropping a wad of $$ on books may just have the time and $$ to travel...

 

Also there are scans, grading notes and a slew of photoshop tricks that people use (not me, I don't know how to do that stuff) that people use to dissect images....so even for non local people there are things that people do.

 

I hear what you are saying but all of this "walking in off the street" talk has taken a negative turn and it's really not a bad thing.

 

There are many people who auction things off that allow pre-viewing...be it cars, estate sales or comics.

 

R.

 

[jimjum12]

Most auction houses allow a public viewing....in some states it may even be required by law. Heritage , Christies, and Sotheby's all have a scheduled public viewing for big auctions.Heritage does not have that for the weekly ones, however.GOD BLESS...

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

[VintageComics]

There you go. No mystery.

 

Thanks Jimbo.

 

R.

 

 

[Flaming_Telepath]

Most auction houses allow a public viewing....in some states it may even be required by law. Heritage , Christies, and Sotheby's all have a scheduled public viewing for big auctions.Heritage does not have that for the weekly ones, however.GOD BLESS...

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

 

Which is great. (thumbs u

 

But it's not what is happening at CLink. (thumbs u

[DrWatson]

Well I'm not going to speak for Josh or CC or Heritage or anyone else but if I was running a business I couldn't invite everyone because not everyone is local...but if someone wanted to arrange something I would try to accomodate.

 

Let's face it..someone looking at a $75 modern 9.8 ASM is not going to likely come in an inspect the book...but if I was a serious collector or business man and I was going to drop a potential 5 or 6 figures on an auction I'd make arrangements.

 

The person dropping a wad of $$ on books may just have the time and $$ to travel...

 

Also there are scans, grading notes and a slew of photoshop tricks that people use (not me, I don't know how to do that stuff) that people use to dissect images....so even for non local people there are things that people do.

 

I hear what you are saying but all of this "walking in off the street" talk has taken a negative turn and it's really not a bad thing.

 

There are many people who auction things off that allow pre-viewing...be it cars, estate sales or comics.

 

R.

Yes, but they have a scheduled viewing time, open to the public. Everyone that has a desire to see has an opportunity to do so. Not everyone has that opportunity in this example.

[canickus]

Wasn't me (Pastimperfekt). My early Avengers and Spider-Man runs are virtually complete. I picked up the one book I really wanted (Avengers 64 9.4 w to replace an ow-w copy). The one book I went way over guide for (Amazing Spider-Man 100 9.8), I got wiped out on.

 

I can't understand the 2600 for the Avengers 16 9.0 at all. The March auction has a 9.4 and a 9.0 that are both far nicer (and without writing on the cover). I've had books pressed up but to bet that your book will go up to a 9.6 for a profit or to 9.4 to break even from a 9.0 is insane.

 

I almost missed this. Welcome to the boards, Pastimperfekt.

 

 

[VintageComics]

You're absolutely right in principle.

 

Like I said, I'm not going to argue for or against anyone...but if had serious $$ to drop I'd be doing a little more research than just bidding.

 

Any how, I'm off for the night I think. I just rented Schindler's List. I missed it the last time rented it and am looking forward to it.

 

 

 

R.

 

 

[Ghost Town]

Roy, you either invite everyone...or you invite no-one.

 

What you don't do is invite a select few, lay out the terms of their continuing involvement, and keep the whole thing under the radar so that us simpletons think the game is all fair, above board and everybody's playing on a level field.

I'm curious if anyone in this thread has asked ComicLink for a preview of auction books and been refused. I don't have any personal knowledge of the accuracy of the claims in this thread, but I'd be surprised if C-Link turned down any serious bidders if they wanted to see the books ahead of time.

 

And as far as laying out terms of continuing involvement, I know a few people have made that claim. But is that an assumption or has it been confirmed by anyone?

[namisgr]

And as far as laying out terms of continuing involvement, I know a few people have made that claim. But is that an assumption or has it been confirmed by anyone?

 

Good luck getting anyone who can confirm this directly to do so publicly on the boards.

[COI]

Last time I checked Comic Connect didn't have a if you press it you sell it with us policy.

 

 

Or an official, invitation-only 'Pre-Auction Preview Night' for The Usual Suspects. (thumbs u

 

If I had good customers that were local I would allow them to preview the books...wouldn't you?

Heck If I had a good customer that was any where, I would allow him in to preview the books.

 

Why not?

 

...and why wouldn't Comic Connect either?

 

It's not like any of these auctions don't want their books to sell...

 

R.

 

 

Roy, you either invite everyone...or you invite no-one.

 

What you don't do is invite a select few, lay out the terms of their continuing involvement, and keep the whole thing under the radar so that us simpletons think the game is all fair, above board and everybody's playing on a level field.

 

It's a nice principle, but I don't think this kind of scenario plays out anywhere. I can't think of many businesses that treat their entire customer base equally. $$$ buys access.

[Ghost Town]

And as far as laying out terms of continuing involvement, I know a few people have made that claim. But is that an assumption or has it been confirmed by anyone?

 

Good luck getting anyone who can confirm this directly to do so publicly on the boards.

I know there's a lot of gossip on these boards and sometimes it turns out to be true and sometimes it doesn't. I guess I'd just like to occasionally see somebody step up and not hide behind an anonymous source. But hey, it's the internet.

 

 

[blazingbob]

Not gossip.

 

 

[Nostalgic Attic]

Wasn't me (Pastimperfekt).

 

Good to hear..I'm hoping my comment is taken as a bad late night/ early morning joke and all this talk of shilling didn't come from it. I never meant to insinuate Josh is shilling his auctions. Comiclink has never been anything but professional in my dealings with them.

 

[DiceX]