Pedigrees

[dam60]

Can anyone recommend for me a website or source of information about Pedigree collections? Looking for what are the qualifications of a pedigree collection, what collections are out there already with what books, etc.

 

Many thanks,

 

DAM

[fantastic_four]

http://www.comicrestoration.freeservers.com/article1.htm

[dam60]

WOW!!! Exactly what I am looking for, thanks!

[awe4one]

FF,

 

Good stuff there! Thanks for the link!

 

 

Jim

[The_Man_Of_Steel]

Thank you for providing the link James, that is the best article on pedigrees I've ever read! To kind of go along with your link, the following link contains a bit of Mile High History as written by Chuck ("Discovering that huge collection was a watershed event in my life."), and a few pictures of him and his staff, including an old picture of Chuck w/Superman #1, and Batman #1.

 

http://www.milehighcomics.com/information/hist.html

 

 

[chromium]

You know Chuck has hardly aged in 30 years... they must store him together with his Mile High collection or does Everything in Colorade stay so well preserved...

[The_Man_Of_Steel]

LMAO just remember to keep yourself at the bottom of the stack, and don't try to seal yourself in Mylar the results could be deadly!

[fantastic_four]

The man who runs that site, Matt Nelson, is a really great guy who is responsive to e-mail questions related to restoration. Last I heard he was going to start doing some work for Heritage.

 

I really want to find some detailed info on the Silver Age pedigrees; I've never found any compilation of that info.

[Guest]

You know Chuck has hardly aged in 30 years... they must store him together with his Mile High collection or does Everything in Colorade stay so well preserved...

 

His wardrobe has been well preserved as well.

 

I was hoping to read about the Curator collection among those descriptions.

[fantastic_four]

Bob Storms talked a bit about the Curator collection in these forums; if you search on the word "curator" you'll find his words. The basics are that it was a collection supposedly containing multiple copies of some issues (I always wonder whether the discoverer threw in some copies when I hear this, but who knows) kept by the curator of a museum in the vault they used to store artwork and manuscripts. They were kept in a cool temperature with low humidity until the 1990s, when they were sold to a dealer. The dealer sold almost the entire run to Tom Brulato, if I remember correctly; he certainly got the Spideys and X-Men, and I'm assuming he also got the FFs and Daredevils. Brulato still has them all except the lower-grade (9.2s and below) copies, which he sold off shortly before CGC came into existence.

 

What I also don't know about Curator is what books were a part of the collection. The only ones I've seen or heard of are Silver Age Marvels. A lot of the highest-graded Marvels (such as the X-Men 1 CGC 9.8) are Curators, and they almost all have white or off-white to white pages.

[The_Man_Of_Steel]

You may have already seen this book, but this is a Mile High Pedigree gem if I've ever seen one! Unbeliveable, a 62 year old comic book from the Golden Age with white pages! Check out Action Comics issue 25 Mile High pedigree NM 9.6 . Click on the picture for a larger scan because it is totally worth looking at.

[Joanna]

But it has a pencilled 4/24 on the cover! That makes the price go way down, yet did Heritage mention it? Nah-ah.

 

(Sorry, couldn't resist. It's the middle of the night and I'm making boxes because I've got a bunch of stuff that doesn't fit in the ones I have, and I'm a little punchy).

 

Seriously, that book is breath-taking.

 

-- Joanna

[FlyingDonut]

11.3X Overstreet tho...

[CosmicBob]

And this one. The guy had it unslabbed on ebay a while ago and it didn't make the reserve. He claimed it was a CGC 9.4 at least. But he wouldn't guarrantee it.

 

It's very nice. But, like all Mile Highs (at least per this guy's explanation) it has the arrival date on the cover. That said, I'd still take it if someone was giving it away!

[Rickdogg]

Mile Highs tend to have this writing so it's a given. Similar to the copy you have from the "D" collection.

[The_Man_Of_Steel]

Joanna: But it has a pencilled 4/24 on the cover! That makes the price go way down, yet did Heritage mention it? Nah-ah.

 

Joanna, I know where you are coming from with that comment. Look at the CGC census, there is but one true NM copy of Action Comic 25, and the closest grade is a single VF/NM 9.0, and only 8 copies of Action 25 have been graded by CGC. As for Marvel Team Up Annual 1 so far 36 copies (4x as many) have been graded by CGC, 1 NM 9.8, 3 NM 9.6, 10 NM 9.4, and so on.You must remember that this is a Golden Age book, NOT a bronze Age book, and the mark is in pencil, and NOT a date stamp in ink, and the pencil mark is small, but clearly visible on the front cover, NOT hidden on the back, and it can be clearly seen in the scan (no surprises), unlike a certain Bronze Age pedigree book that another poster purchased. The chances of finding another NM 9.6 Action Comics issue 25 (1940) without a marking of some kind would probably be just about as good as finding a NM 9.6 Action Comics issue 1. Finding another high grade Bronze Age book without a date stamp is possible, and to a good number of collectors preferable.

 

Joanna:(Sorry, couldn't resist. It's the middle of the night and I'm making boxes because I've got a bunch of stuff that doesn't fit in the ones I have, and I'm a little punchy).

 

Joanna, I could be wrong, but it sounds to me like you need to get laid, maybe that would put you in a better mood

[Joanna]

Joanna, I know where you are coming from with that comment.

 

Clearly not, MOS, because it was joke, pure and simple (I didn't put an emoticon on my post, because I don't really like to use them. I thought the sarcasm was transparent. I'll know better next time). I don't care a whit about date stamps, because I was a silver age collector, who also has a few dozen golden age issues. I'm used to all sorts date stamps, writing, scrawling, scribbling, etc. In fact, I believe a few of my own issues from my youth have moustaches and beards drawn on all the characters in pen. To me, writing on a comic often means it originally belonged to a kid, and I love that. That's what comics are about to me. Kids sprawled under the covers with a flashlight, writing their names on the books to make sure their brothers know "It's MINE!!!" and so on. I wrote that comment about the Superman book because it's ludicrous to think a pencilled date mark marred that gorgeous appearance.

 

Not that I don't understand the bronze age collectors. If you're not used to seeing this stuff, and don't like it, then that's that. To my knowledge, I've never held an auction where I didn't mention date stamps or writing, even with the CGC D copy.

 

Joanna, I could be wrong, but it sounds to me like you need to get laid, maybe that would put you in a better mood

 

I saw the smiley, but that said, do you really feel this is an appropriate comment? I'm just wondering because I've seen you fly off the handle at so much less. I don't mind you making the jab, but it means you have to start letting some jabs go. Just smile and take it and move on. Not everything needs defending.

 

And although my mood is just fine, a handsome someone at night ain't a bad idea at all. I'm currently taking applications.

 

(Lordy, I hope the smilies keeps the porn spam to a minimum)

 

-- Joanna

[snizzenfixit]

And although my mood is just fine, a handsome someone at night ain't a bad idea at all. I'm currently taking applications.

 

Pity really, I am married with children, and I look like something the cat dragged in. Otherwise I would put in an application right quick.

 

Phil

 

 

[Joanna]

Handsome doesn't mean the outside, Phil, it means the inside. Tell your wife she's lucky.

 

-- Joanna

[snizzenfixit]

Handsome doesn't mean the outside, Phil, it means the inside.

 

Oh no you don't, I don't get off that easy. I am ugly to the Bone (from another thread) I saw pictures from my last surgery, and you haven't seen ugly till you have seen my spleen.

 

Tell your wife she's lucky.

 

Oh she knows how lucky she is. She has a husband that she gets to physically abuse daily. After that she calls me names (But she refuses to call me Wannabe). Then she makes me sit in the corner while she throws things at me. After all this she kicks me twice and forces me to eat off the floor.

 

Phil