POLL - What would happen if CGC stopped slabbing comics?

[THE_BEYONDER]

SCS does NOT happen a lot more times than it actually does happen.

 

Based on the slabs I've received, it happens alot more than anyone wants to admit...

 

Jim

 

Isolated incident

 

 

 

 

What? That's not SCS?

 

How about this?

 

 

Or this one.....

 

 

 

Shall I continue?

[Mr.Diggler]

All those raw NM/MT modern books would once again become bin fodder.

[djpinkpanther67]

I believe life would still go on if they folded

 

Imagine that.

Manousaridis Comics Grading Company (MCGC)?

[VintageComics]

Chris you , I didn't even begin to imply that SCS doesn't exist but you continue to push a moot point simply to have something to argue about.

 

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

If anyone feels they can improve on it I'm sure there is lots of money to be made here, folks.

 

Anyone? Bueller?

 

R.

 

 

 

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

I believe life would still go on if they folded

 

Imagine that.

Manousaridis Comics Grading Company (MCGC)?

 

 

[supapimp]

All those raw NM/MT modern books would once again become bin fodder.

 

Or maybe the prices go much higher because there will not be any more 9.8's added to the census

 

Doubtful...the CGC shine would lose it lustre over time. And you'd have people increasingly talking about the supposed "7-year rule" when you should have a comic reslabbed...

 

Jim

 

unfortunately slab damage/SCS does happen. i sent in a TOS 49 CGC 7.5 to be reholdered during the WC, and later i rec'd a call from CGC, stating that they couldn't reholder it in the same grade do to SCS. we are currently working things out and a settlement is in the works.

 

Couldn't it be pressed out?

 

That bad huh?

 

nope. trust me, we tried to think of every available avenue. it didn't happen on the way to CGC, i already bought the book like that, i just didn't know until i tried to get it reholdered.

[He11blazer]

I believe life would still go on if they folded

 

Huh, if you can call that 'life'!

 

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

Chris you , I didn't even begin to imply that SCS doesn't exist but you continue to push a moot point simply to have something to argue about.

 

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

If anyone feels they can improve on it I'm sure there is lots of money to be made here, folks.

 

Anyone? Bueller?

 

R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cheetah]

You'd have a bunch of very exprienced employees out of work and someone would start a new company with an already experienced core.

 

And who would put up the up-front capital needed to start up correctly? I'm not sure there would be alot of takers in the current environment especially considering the claims by Borock and others that the company isn't a particularly lucrative business...

 

Jim

 

30 days max from CGC closing its doors until a new company could open up. Same suppliers for plastic, design a new label, buy the CGC registry database, set up a web page and forum, buy existing equipment at a discount from a defunct company, agree to accept CGC-graded comics for Registry purposes, talk to former CGC employees. Wouldn't have to be particularly profitable to make it a meaningful venture. I don't think it would be difficult at all.

[VintageComics]

Chris you , I didn't even begin to imply that SCS doesn't exist but you continue to push a moot point simply to have something to argue about.

 

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

If anyone feels they can improve on it I'm sure there is lots of money to be made here, folks.

 

Anyone? Bueller?

 

R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice rebut. A logical discussion seems to be a rare thing around here lately...it's either got to be an extreme point of view with no facts to back it up or simply emotional rhetoric.

 

So I'm drinking Kool Aid because I present an logical arguement. Then what does an armchair critic drink?

[THE_BEYONDER]

Chris you , I didn't even begin to imply that SCS doesn't exist but you continue to push a moot point simply to have something to argue about.

 

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

If anyone feels they can improve on it I'm sure there is lots of money to be made here, folks.

 

Anyone? Bueller?

 

R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice rebut. A logical discussion seems to be a rare thing around here lately...it's either got to be an extreme point of view with no facts to back it up or simply emotional rhetoric.

 

So I'm drinking Kool Aid because I present an logical arguement. Then what does an armchair critic drink?

 

Lighten up Francis

 

BTW - I drink Coors Light & Southern Comfort

[dekeuk]

 

ok, who are the 6 people who said "PGX would take over"

 

do you really believe that? or trying to be funny?

 

 

[djpinkpanther67]

Lighten up Francis

 

Stripes

[THE_BEYONDER]

[VintageComics]

Nah, I'd rather have some intelligent discourse if someone is going to try and prove me wrong. Nice attempt at a cover though.

[djpinkpanther67]

A pic of SGT "Big Toe" Hulka would be more appropriate

[seanfingh]

Nah, I'd rather have some intelligent discourse if someone is going to try and prove me wrong. Nice attempt at a cover though.

 

I'll reader's digest the "intelligent discourse" for you.

 

"SCS happens a lot."

 

No, it doesn't. It only happens occasionally.

 

"Nuh-uh"

 

"Yuh-huh"

 

"Nuh-uh"

 

"Yuh-huh"

 

Repeat until "hulk head hurt" ensues.

 

 

[Bomber-Bob]

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

 

If a book is somewhat 'loose' in the inner well damage may occur. No matter how good you package it up for shipping, how do you stop the book from sliding around in the inner well ?

The new design of the inner well seems to result in a snug fit = I like it. I would also like to see CGC use the wedge pieces more often. I feel better when I buy a book with a wedge or two present. It seems to prevent SCS.

Regarding the demise of CGC, I hope it never happens. While I realize they are in business to make money, they seem to put integrity first over profits. I don't see another company doing that. Many on the boards complain about tight CGC grading but I believe it is in our best interests to have tight, consistent grading.

Looser grading for more company profits would ruin the hobby.

 

[VintageComics]

SCS only happens when a book is not handled properly therefore it is not the fault of the slab it is the fault of the person handling the book when it happens.

 

A comic will not damage itself in a state of rest so the slab design does not cause the damage.

 

Poor packaging, poor handling and poor storage all affect the comic. Not slab design.

 

 

If a book is somewhat 'loose' in the inner well damage may occur. No matter how good you package it up for shipping, how do you stop the book from sliding around in the inner well ?

The new design of the inner well seems to result in a snug fit = I like it. I would also like to see CGC use the wedge pieces more often. I feel better when I buy a book with a wedge or two present. It seems to prevent SCS.

Regarding the demise of CGC, I hope it never happens. While I realize they are in business to make money, they seem to put integrity first over profits. I don't see another company doing that. Many on the boards complain about tight CGC grading but I believe it is in our best interests to have tight, consistent grading.

Looser grading for more company profits would ruin the hobby.

 

Proper packaging will reduce the incidence of SCS that I am 100% sure of.

 

Cardboard around the slab, then one wrap of bubblewrap to keep it together,then dropped into a box of Styrophoam peanuts. That is the best way to reduce the incidence of SCS during shipping.

 

The peanuts act as a fluid dispersing impact around the slab rather than as a solid (like bubblewrap) and forcing impact to go through the slab.

 

Nothing will eliminate it completely but you can reduce it greatly.

 

If an employee of the shipping company throws, drops, kicks or runs over the box with the slab in it that's improper handling then isn't it?

[THE_BEYONDER]

Nah, I'd rather have some intelligent discourse if someone is going to try and prove me wrong. Nice attempt at a cover though.

What exactly am I trying to cover? You went on a rant about the incidence of SCS, and I posted examples. How many more examples do I need to post? A dozen? A hundred? If these post-slabbing defects weren't pressable....CGC would be in a world of trouble.

 

But keep on keeping on...