tth2 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 To each his/her own... There will never be a consensus on this. I think there`s pretty clear consensus among knowledgeable DC collectors that there are more than 3 top tier SA DC keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) In terms of value...then SC4, SC22, and BB28 is the top three SA DC. In comparison to their counterparts...AF15, FF1, Hulk 1. Top 3 is not the same as "only 3". To say there are only 3 mega-key or top tier SA DCs is just ludicrous. Not sure if you read my quote correctly. "In terms of value", not only three. Edited April 23, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) To each his/her own... There will never be a consensus on this. I think there`s pretty clear consensus among knowledgeable DC collectors that there are more than 3 top tier SA DC keys. What makes a top tier SA key, though? In my mind it is the books that most collectors, not just SA DC collectors, accept as being key? Most Marvel fanboys will recognize SC #4, SC #22 and B&B #28, and maybe Adventure #247 (but not as much with the younger collecting crowd since the Legion has not been as relevant as it used to be for a couple or three decades now). Outside of that, the other SA keys are significant in the DCU, but not as much overall. Edited April 23, 2011 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikran Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 To each his/her own... There will never be a consensus on this. I think there`s pretty clear consensus among knowledgeable DC collectors that there are more than 3 top tier SA DC keys. What makes a top tier SA key, though? In my mind it is the books that most collectors, not just SA DC collectors, accept as being key? Most Marvel fanboys will recognize SC #4, SC #22 and B&B #28, and maybe Adventure #247 (but not as much with the younger collecting crowd since the Legion has not been as relevant as it used to be for a couple or three decades now). Outside of that, the other SA keys are significant in the DCU, but not as much overall. Pretty much sums it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngh81 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 To each his/her own... There will never be a consensus on this. I think there`s pretty clear consensus among knowledgeable DC collectors that there are more than 3 top tier SA DC keys. My implication of never having a consensus with this was towards which books are keys and which are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 To each his/her own... There will never be a consensus on this. I think there`s pretty clear consensus among knowledgeable DC collectors that there are more than 3 top tier SA DC keys. What makes a top tier SA key, though? In my mind it is the books that most collectors, not just SA DC collectors, accept as being key? Most Marvel fanboys will recognize SC #4, SC #22 and B&B #28, and maybe Adventure #247 (but not as much with the younger collecting crowd since the Legion has not been as relevant as it used to be for a couple or three decades now). Outside of that, the other SA keys are significant in the DCU, but not as much overall. Why would the opinions of a bunch of myopic Marvel fanboys, or non-DC collectors, be relevant? I don`t know much about Harveys, and therefore wouldn`t presume to tell Harvey collectors which of their books are mega-keys and which aren`t. Sure I have enough general knowledge to say that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are definitely mega-keys, but would never say that there are no other Harvey mega-keys. I simply don`t have sufficient expertise on Harveys to reach such a conclusion. Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Why should their uninformed opinions be relevant? In any event, mega-key status should be based on factors such as historical importance as well as value/demand, because the latter can come and go. Just 3 years ago, the general collector base that you place so much faith in probably wouldn`t have said that SC #22 was a mega-key. Hell, most of them probably didn`t even know what the book was and would`ve labeled GL as a 2nd tier character at best. In contrast, most knowledgeable DC collectors would definitely have said it was a mega-key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 most knowledgeable DC collectors would definitely have said it was a mega-key. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! The allusion to Ciorac flew right past me. I'm not down with Spidey 1 being a super-mega Marvel key so Richie Rich 1 isn't a super-mega Harvey key either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! The greatest wars ever (not in any particular order): WW I WW II Revolutionary War Hatfields vs McCoys Trekkies vs Klingons Marvelites vs. DCers C Sheen vs the World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! The allusion to Ciorac flew right past me. I'm not down with Spidey 1 being a super-mega Marvel key so Richie Rich 1 isn't a super-mega Harvey key either. Bill and I got into long debates as to the importance of ASM #1, so when you were appearing to say that it was a mega Marvel key, I thought you were making a good Charlie McCarthy to his Edgar Bergen. As for whether Richie Rich #1 is a mega Harvey key, my example worked much better with 2 keys and it was the only other Harvey key I could think of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! The greatest wars ever (not in any particular order): WW I WW II Revolutionary War Hatfields vs McCoys Trekkies vs Klingons Marvelites vs. DCers C Sheen vs the World You forgot GA vs SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) Along with SC4 and 22 and BB28, what all would you guys consider to be the big DC silver age keys? That pretty much covers it in my book They are the only 3 mega-keys coming to mind at the moment for DC silver age. (unless you want to count the first issues of the JLA, GL the Flash(105) as well...) SC 4 B&B 28 Adventure 247 SC 22 Flash 105 Showcase 17 B&B 34 Showcase 34 Showcase 9 Showcase 30 JLA 1 GL 1 OAW 81, 83 GI Combat 87 If you are talking big keys, then there are only 3 top tier SA DCs - B&B #28, SC #4 and SC #22. Otherwise, the list above is probably a good one to chase now before some of the 2nd and 3rd tier keys take off........... Well if you asked that same question 3+ years ago you would have likely only answered 1, Showcase 4. Then Showcase 22 and now BB 28 took off and have become "mega keys" for those who follow the pricing of the books, so no I don't believe that fixable list that's being mentioned as the big 3 is the be all end all like some have made it seem in this thread. In terms of value...then SC4, SC22, and BB28 is the top three SA DC. In comparison to their counterparts...AF15, FF1, Hulk 1. Think SC 22 is probably better compared to AF15 at this point but I get the comparisons. btw I enjoy looking at your sig line, very nice books and cool to see. Thanks! (thumbs u And you have so cool recreation and style art. Edited April 24, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Along with SC4 and 22 and BB28, what all would you guys consider to be the big DC silver age keys? That pretty much covers it in my book They are the only 3 mega-keys coming to mind at the moment for DC silver age. (unless you want to count the first issues of the JLA, GL the Flash(105) as well...) SC 4 B&B 28 Adventure 247 SC 22 Flash 105 Showcase 17 B&B 34 Showcase 34 Showcase 9 Showcase 30 JLA 1 GL 1 OAW 81, 83 GI Combat 87 I think can also add Action 242 and 252 to the list. Yup. I also forgot Flash 123. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Along with SC4 and 22 and BB28, what all would you guys consider to be the big DC silver age keys? That pretty much covers it in my book They are the only 3 mega-keys coming to mind at the moment for DC silver age. (unless you want to count the first issues of the JLA, GL the Flash(105) as well...) SC 4 B&B 28 Adventure 247 SC 22 Flash 105 Showcase 17 B&B 34 Showcase 34 Showcase 9 Showcase 30 JLA 1 GL 1 OAW 81, 83 GI Combat 87 If you are talking big keys, then there are only 3 top tier SA DCs - B&B #28, SC #4 and SC #22. Otherwise, the list above is probably a good one to chase now before some of the 2nd and 3rd tier keys take off........... Well if you asked that same question 3+ years ago you would have likely only answered 1, Showcase 4. Then Showcase 22 and now BB 28 took off and have become "mega keys" for those who follow the pricing of the books, so no I don't believe that fixable list that's being mentioned as the big 3 is the be all end all like some have made it seem in this thread. In terms of value...then SC4, SC22, and BB28 is the top three SA DC. In comparison to their counterparts...AF15, FF1, Hulk 1. Think SC 22 is probably better compared to AF15 at this point but I get the comparisons. btw I enjoy looking at your sig line, very nice books and cool to see. Thanks! (thumbs u And you have so cool recreation and style art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hell, most Marvel fanboys wouldn`t even realize that Little Dot #1 and Richie Rich #1 are mega-keys. Just like Amazing Fantasy 15 and Spidey 1 are mega Marvel keys. Wow, I didn`t even see Ciorac`s lips move! The allusion to Ciorac flew right past me. I'm not down with Spidey 1 being a super-mega Marvel key so Richie Rich 1 isn't a super-mega Harvey key either. Bill and I got into long debates as to the importance of ASM #1, so when you were appearing to say that it was a mega Marvel key, I thought you were making a good Charlie McCarthy to his Edgar Bergen. As for whether Richie Rich #1 is a mega Harvey key, my example worked much better with 2 keys and it was the only other Harvey key I could think of! Yes we did. I still stand by my assertion that ASM #1 is a top three Marvel SA key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Who'da guessed we'd learn so much about Marvel keys in a thread about SC #22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem1138 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Is this a new 9.0? http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch%2Easp%3FPreviewCode%3D2011may%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B22%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_888504&id=888504 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Is this a new 9.0? http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch%2Easp%3FPreviewCode%3D2011may%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B22%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_888504&id=888504 Oh my! speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
