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Doc Savage Bantam lot and DC comics sold!

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bronzilla

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Decided to put these here as opposed to mixed age /misc because these stories originated in the pulps, and that is the golden age. If anyone objects, let me know I will move them. :)

 

In aquiring my full set of Bantam Docs I ended up with some doubles, 37 to be exact.

Hopefully someone will pick these up, this is roughly 20% of the total Lester Dent

Kenneth Robeson output.

If some of you guys have never read Doc, your in for a treat!

 

The Doc Savage movie is in the works now, introduce yourself to the Hero, that inspired the creation of Superman! The Man of bronze even has a fortress of solitude!

 

Im calling this a readers lot most are readers but some are pretty nice and better than the average.

75.00 plus exact shipping. Bonus full DC Doc Savage vf set at no additional charge See post below

 

 

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Tell you what, I will also throw into this set at no extra charge my doubles of the DC LATE 80s Doc Savage comic set. The full Run, 1 -24 in very fine condition.

Denny Oneil and The kuberts collaberated on these. Good stuff!

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Wow, brings back memories...I had Brand of the Werewolf and the Thousand Headed Man when I was a boy (I actually think they were my Dad's and I commandeered them ;) )

 

Are those out of print?

The bantams have been out of print since the early 90s

 

Nostalgia Ventures/ Sanctum Press has been reprinting them for the last few years in double novel format. They are very true to the original Pulps and even have the original Interior art. Plus tons of background info on Dent and other "Robesson" writers. I own all 34 issues of those. They are up to issue 36 currently which means roughly 72 storys. There are a total of 182 stories from the original pulps and then like 10 or 12 commissioned after Bantam completed the original run. Will Murray the latest Kenneth Robeson recently got the go ahead to finish up and write some more Doc adventures!!

 

Great time to be getting into Doc Savage!!!

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Loved these when I was a kid, I read several. I remember reading them in the early 1980's, not really understanding when they were written or where the stories came from. They would always call taxi cabs "hacks", which was just weird stuff to a kid in Colorado in 1982.

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I read them as a kid as well, probably less than 20 of the total stories.

 

I recently started reading them again and was amazed at how well they held up 30 years later.

 

I may never get thru them all since there were so many written, but its fun, easy, and fast formulaic writing. Each novel is average 115 pages or so.

 

Doc and the gang travel all over the world getting into all sorts of danger, strictly for the love of helping their fellow man and the love of Adventure!

Doc has 5 aids who help him, and everyone is a specialist in their field. But none are the equal of Doc, who was raised by his father with the sole purpose of honing his intellect and body in the pursuit of justice.

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The first part of this article referances the similaritys between Supes and Doc.

 

 

Primer: The Men Before Superman

by R.J. Carter

Published: September 25, 2002

 

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You all know the story about how two idealistic teenagers in the 1930s created a science fiction hero that spawned an industry. Jerry and Joe, in a flash of brilliance, gave the world Superman. Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive. He was a hero the likes of which the world had never seen before.

 

Or was he?

 

There are few science fiction aficionados not familiar with Lester Dent's creation, Doc Savage. When comparing Savage and Superman, it doesn't require much of a stretch to see the resemblances between "The Man Of Bronze" and "The Man Of Steel". Both had keen minds. Both were named Clark. Both had a "fortress of solitude" -- Savage's in the Arctic, Superman's in the Antarctic. Dent's Savage was even publicized as "a superman" in the house ads promoting the tales. Published in the early-to-mid 1930's, it is readily admitted that Doc Savage was a strong influence on the teenage Siegel and Shuster when they created the Last Son of Krypton.

 

There was, however, another champion to contend with, an older one who was a lot closer to being Superman than Clark Savage ever was.

 

Meet Hugo Danner. He can leap 40 feet into the air; bend steel in his bare hands. Nothing short of a bursting shell can penetrate his invulnerable skin. Sound familiar?

 

Danner was the protagonist of Philip Wylie's science fiction novel, Gladiator. The product of a super-soldier serum developed by his father, Abednego Danner, Hugo stood alone in a world of "normal" human beings, a victim of abilities and appetites that exceeded those of his so-called peers. Women flocked to him, men feared him.

 

There were, to be sure, certain differences between Hugo Danner and Kal-L of Krypton. For one, Danner never had qualms about taking a life in battle. He also never felt compelled to disguise himself behind a flashy costume.

 

Wylie's Gladiator was published in 1930, predating the 1933 debut of Doc Savage and the 1938 unveiling of Superman in Action Comics #1.

 

So it would seem that it was Philip Wylie who invented the superhero, and not Siegel and Shuster. But if either Dent or Wylie had intentions on patenting the concept of the superhero, they'd quickly find that it was neither of them. Somebody had already been there, nearly twenty years before.

 

 

 

"My effort... carried me fully thirty feet into the air and landed me a hundred feet from my pursuers and on the opposite side of the enclosure."

 

 

With these words, Edgar Rice Burroughs (writing as Norman Bean in 1912 for All-Story Magazine) described the first of several superhuman feats that his character, John Carter, would perform in his serialized novella, A Princess Of Mars. A character even more like Kal-L than Wylie's Gladiator, John Carter was a gentleman of Virginia who found himself the only one of his kind on an alien planet, upon which he soon discovered he possessed powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal Martians. The reason?

 

 

 

"While the Martians are immense, their bones are very large and they are muscled only in proportion to the gravitation which they must overcome. The result is that they are infinitely less agile and less powerful, in proportion to their weight, than an Earth man, and I doubt that were one of them suddenly to be transported to Earth he could lift his own weight from the ground; in fact, I am convinced that he could not do so."

 

 

Burroughs' explanation sounds quite similar to the reasons given for Superman's enhanced strength, and why he could leap a tall building in a single bound (this was back in the days before the Man of Steel learned to fly).

 

John Carter would go on to star in nine more Martian novels, thrilling readers with his bravery, his daring, and his ability to unite warring races through his philosophy of fighting when he was forced to, but otherwise treating people and creatures with dignity, love and respect--concepts foreign to many of the Martian tribes.

 

Of course, the concept of the superman is even older than that. The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche coined the word "superman" (or overman, depending on the translation) in his work, Thus Spoke Zarathustra back around 1884. Unlike the heroes previously mentioned, however, Nietzsche's "superman" would be a creature of complete selfishness, finding ascension to the status of man-god by abhorring the ways of altruism and embracing insatiable lusts for power as a motivation for rising above, and over, humanity.

 

We could, of course, explore the superman archetype further, bringing up such distinctly American icons as Paul Bunyan and John Henry. Further literary archeology would land us in the antiquity of Greco-Roman mythology and the tales of Hercules, or in Judeo-Christianity and the story of Samson and Delilah.

 

Of particular interest to our expedition would be the tale of Gilgamesh, a man who possessed so much strength and power as to be utterly alone in the world, without peer, until one day he finds a brother who can match him. Tragically, Gilgamesh loses his brother prematurely -- a tale that would echo down through the millennia, to be repeated again in the Superman mythos in the tale of Superboy and Mon-El.

 

Ironically, it was Dell, Gold Key, Marvel Comics--DC's competitors--that succeeded in bringing these Superman forerunners into the four-color realm of comic books: Doc Savage and John Carter both had an ongoing series, while Hugo Danner was featured in an issue of Marvel Preview #9 under the title "Man-God."

 

 

DC eventually managed to get their hands on Doc Savage for a while, but the series lacked a certain je ne sais quoi, and the series was cancelled after twenty-four issues. They also wedged Hugo Danner into the DC Universe, making him the absentee father of the Young All-Stars strongman, "Iron" Munro (in Roy and Dann Thomas's liberal adaptation of Wylie's novel in Young All-Stars #10-11).

 

So, one might say that the Man of Tomorrow is really just the Man of Yesterday, in a shiny new package, a modern retelling of the tales inspired by the countless authors of the past.

 

One might.

 

But that would only examine one side of the equation. For inside Jerry and Joe's spandex clad mystery man, existed a unique atom of creativity, an atom that, once exposed, rapidly split, and continued splitting, spawning superman after superman -- each inexorably linked to the Kryptonian, yet each uniquely different.

 

And one day, who knows? Perhaps there will come a new generation, with a new superman, and readers and scholars alike might discuss how that character is but an extension of all the ancient archetypes of Gilgamesh, of Hercules, of John Carter, Hugo Danner, and Doc Savage.

 

And of Superman.

 

 

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Great pickup. I still have all of my copies from when I was a kid. Used to love reading them. I still pick up the comics whenever DC or someone else tries to reboot the franchise.

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Books are sold to Sharon. "skypinkblue"

 

Thanks Sharon!!

 

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Love to see a thread like this end in a sale.

 

Me too. Sharon has a lot of cool reading to do! Doc and his crew are such amazing Characters. I so hope the new movie is done right!

The guy writing the screenplay is a pulp collector, so Im keeping my fingers crossed.

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